Just as I suspected...you have nothing except your empty rhetoric.I'd be happy to answer that question if someone I had any respect for asked it.
You're right that they aren't fleecing taxpayers in the same way, but in both cases taxpayers are being fleeced as it's still money out of the public treasury in the end. Either way you're using public funds or special tax giveaways to large businesses that aren't available to smaller ones and that means taxpayers are subsidizing a certain business's business model because they used their mobility to shake down a local government that's not strong enough to resist them.
Your first question wasn't addressed to me. But thanks for answering my direct question to you.
You say above that you "don't have an issue with tax incentives in theory" yet you previously couched this particular case as "stuck the bill Carrier was going to pay on the citizens of Indiana" and "double penetration ass raping of the people of Indiana by Donald and Mike". Perhaps you can explain to me this apparent cognitive dissonance. I'm all ears.
Anyway, taking the human side of the equation aside, this is a net gain for Indiana tax payers as well...they subsidized Carrier $700,000 per year for 10 years and will realize nearly double that in tax revenue per year from the 1000 jobs kept (using $40k average salary times 3.3% State income tax). This was a good deal for everybody...especially when considering the alternative.
As far as your 35% tariff question goes, Trump isn't even President yet and even if he was, he'd be incapable of unilaterally enacting a tariff which requires Congressional approval. I imagine that he'll make every effort to level the playing field and I personally believe we'll see progress in this area during his administration. There are a lot of ways to skin a cat, but a 35% tariff will never fly imo.
There was a house bill that was pushed up to the senate that included tax incentives to encourage companies to return jobs to the U.S.
Guessed who killed it in the Senate?
Republicans killed it...and for good reason.
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories...he-wrong-way-to-deal-with-outsourcing-647517/
Homer at the risk of sounding like Trump, this is a good deal. He didn't have to enact a tariff, he threatened it and it appears he also threatened Carrier with losing some Military contracts which represents 10% of their overall business. 700k to keep 1000 jobs plus whatever else these 1000 jobs require is pretty small money.
Liberals like you and I have to give credit when its due and adopt ideas that work. This could change if every employer starts looking for more and more tax breaks but we're not their and it may not even happen.
They know the only fact they ever need - it wasn't done by a Democrat.Agree. In my opinion, these guys are fucking insane to twist this into a negative without knowing any details. Facts be damned...boogiemen are everywhere! It would be comical if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.
Because literally everything is the fault of Republicans. No Republicans need be involved at all, much less on both sides.Protests in Portland are not an indicator of much of anything.
How do Republicans "control" police unions?
If Democrats are negotiating with the unions, and the unions get what they want regardless of whether or not it is sustainable, how is that the fault of Republicans?
As for Los Angeles, the pension shortfall is due to an accounting error made by Democrat leadership because they wrongfully projected tax revenues. That is an over simplification, but you can't pawn off poor governance of a city that has not been under Republican control for decades.
If he did that, he'd need the comfort of so many adult coloring books that he'd need a special government program to buy them. Much safer to just call them deplorables from his ivory tower and hope that they can be retrained for something productive - which to him would be producing comfort coloring books, remodeling factories into pastel-shaded government safe spaces, and training comfort animals to not reject special snowflakes who reek of tofu.you have no idea what "Deal" was reached.
I dare you to go to a few of those Carrier workers and tell them they suck the company sucks and trump sucks because they get to keep their jobs.
And there's the conundrum. If the company gives the state the finger and does pull out then the state receive *no* taxes and jobs are gone. The state didn't gain anything except some slight moral victory that they stood up to the evil corporate boogey man.
To use a buzzword from this election cycle...there's no way to really make the optics of the deal look worse than the alternative.
Your point? I'm flattered that you went through all the trouble of finding this post from many years ago, but providing zero commentary suggests that you perceive that you've found something of obvious significance here that doesn't merit comment (ala res ipsa loquitur). Please share your thoughts regarding this revelation from the distant past for those of us who have zero clue as to what you're trying to imply here. And if it isn't too much trouble, please link the post so we can all see the context surrounding it.I'm just going to leave this here:
Your point? I'm flattered that you went through all the trouble of finding this post from many years ago, but providing zero commentary suggests that you perceive that you've found something of obvious significance here that doesn't merit comment (ala res ipsa loquitur). Please share your thoughts regarding this revelation from the distant past for those of us who have zero clue as to what you're trying to imply here. And if it isn't too much trouble, please link the post so we can all see the context surrounding it.
Please. It's a lousy deal. America gave up jobs & Indiana gave up tax revenue to create the illusion that jobs were "saved". It's not building anything. It's a salvage operation.
Here you go!
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ut-manufacturing.2343598/page-5#post-35522665
Trust me, it wasn't any trouble. I was searching for something else and happened to notice it.
Thanks for the link. But you completely failed to mention your point.Here you go!
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ut-manufacturing.2343598/page-5#post-35522665
Trust me, it wasn't any trouble. I was searching for something else and happened to notice it.
Since the bill wasn't 100% tax incentives you have to assume the worst to try and make your opponent look bad. That is a classic technique your idol often employs and you're just lapping up his dishonesty like his little pup.You know, if I was just caught talking out of both sides of my mouth I might be inclined to just shut the fuck up for a while.
You know, if I was just caught talking out of both sides of my mouth I might be inclined to just shut the fuck up for a while.
I said it was a bad bill then (and I still think so today). Please articulate your reasoning as why you think I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth...I await with bated breath.You know, if I was just caught talking out of both sides of my mouth I might be inclined to just shut the fuck up for a while.
You know, if I was just caught talking out of both sides of my mouth I might be inclined to just shut the fuck up for a while.
Still waiting for you to articulate the reason you posted something from over 3 years ago regarding a horseshit jobs bill.It would appear not, haha.
Still waiting for you to articulate the reason you posted something from over 3 years ago regarding a horseshit jobs bill.
Very Alex Jones of you.This is probably a BS story to pacify the sheep that follow this man who is now the president.
What a sad world we live in.
By the way, companies go where they can maximize profits or get some other benefit. It has nothing to do with compassion, loyalty or any other thing of the sort. Trump is doing things for his own benefit as well. This man is a corporation unto himself, so to speak. He is not here to help you or your so-called "fellow American."
I am rooting for Trump to fail. Fascism should not be allowed to set root in America.
What a dishonest hack you are.I thought it was a pretty great example of how malleable your views are on this issue. I have no doubt you'll come up with some special distinction as to why that one was bad and this one is good but your post speaks for itself.