Trump to reveal deal to keep nearly 1,000 Carrier jobs in Indiana

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buckshot24

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I never implied this was a bailout. I simply pointed out in the difference of right wing response to the savings of jobs, depending upon who is doing it.. Saving around 1k jobs is amazing and 'strong-arming' the industry, even though there was nothing strong-arming about anything that just happened.
The cases are completely different so of course there are going to be different responses. The cases are so different that comparing the responses is pretty silly.
You think Trump just called a CEO and got them to stay? Only reason they stayed is because the vice-president elect could give them tax breaks. Man that's one of the dumbest things I've read during this entire election cycle. Pence could have threatened a tax, on the state level, just like he easily coordinated a tax break.
Point is Trump can't "tax industries", he's not in power. The Governor could offer tax incentives since he's acting Governor still and I'm not sure what extra tax Pence could have punished them with.
 

Jhhnn

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The cases are completely different so of course there are going to be different responses. The cases are so different that comparing the responses is pretty silly.
Point is Trump can't "tax industries", he's not in power. The Governor could offer tax incentives since he's acting Governor still and I'm not sure what extra tax Pence could have punished them with.

Repub response to the auto industry crisis- Fuk 'em all! Burn it down!

Repub response to Pence paying off Carrier to keep 1000 jobs & Trump taking credit for it- Our hero! Job Savior!
 

HomerJS

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Repub response to the auto industry crisis- Fuk 'em all! Burn it down!

Repub response to Pence paying off Carrier to keep 1000 jobs & Trump taking credit for it- Our hero! Job Savior!
Compared to the millions of jobs Obama saved by bailing out the auto industry Republicans should have given him at least some credit. Instead they will crow about these 1000 jobs.

BTW - We have yet to hear of the pay cuts these workers will have to give.
 

Sonikku

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What are the exact specifics of the deal? Just what was promised and for how much?
 

agent00f

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I presented several facts in this thread, which ones upset you to the point of wanting to lash out at me instead of engaging in discussion?

It's blatant obvious you'll ignore the overwhelming unimpeachable fact that the only reason half the good jobs in the region still exist is due to the democrats expending considerable political capital against people like you. And your sort have the audacity to present this pissant little scheme as the "Real" job saver. Rather unfortunate for the buckshot/you types that I'm not a co-moron.
 
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It's blatant obvious you'll ignore the overwhelming unimpeachable fact that the only reason half the good jobs in the region still exist is due to the democrats expending considerable political capital against people like you. And your sort have the audacity to present this pissant little scheme as the "Real" job saver. Rather unfortunate for the buckshot/you types that I'm not a co-moron.
Wow...just wow. But you've piqued my curiosity. You stated that the "only reason half the good jobs in the region still exist is due to the democrats expending considerable political capital against people like you". Can you please be a little more specific here?
 

agent00f

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Wow...just wow. But you've piqued my curiosity. You stated that the "only reason half the good jobs in the region still exist is due to the democrats expending considerable political capital against people like you". Can you please be a little more specific here?

Funny someone pretends to be smart/knowledge about politics when they're completely ignorant of the auto bailout.
 
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Funny someone pretends to be smart/knowledge about politics when they're completely ignorant of the auto bailout.
I had no idea that you were referring to the auto bailout...but I admit that my mind-reading skills have been a little shaky lately. BTW, I applaud the auto bailout. Why are you acting like a child here? What did I say that angered you so?
 

agent00f

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I had no idea that you were referring to the auto bailout...but I admit that my mind-reading skills have been a little shaky lately.
Your idea figuring skills have always been shaky.

BTW, I applaud the auto bailout.
Are you going to pretend your conservative friends did? Or that you were right all along?: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...rejected-by-obama-admin.300891/#post-28121805

Why are you acting like a child here? What did I say that angered you so?

Interesting that's how dunning kruger types feel when they'r dressed down.
 

buckshot24

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It's hard to imagine how anything drooling out of your mouth can be more worthless. Maybe you can keep insisting I'm on your ignore list.
You are. I wanted to see what drivel DSF was responding to. It looks like I made the right call, you are still a worthless arrogant moron and proud of it.
 
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Your idea figuring skills have always been shaky.
Ouch! That hurt!

Are you going to pretend your conservative friends did? Or that you were right all along?: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...rejected-by-obama-admin.300891/#post-28121805
There seems to be a significant disconnect here...I'm a person expressing my own personal opinions, I don't represent the monolithic conservative boogieman that you apparently imagine me to be.

Interesting that's how dunning kruger types feel when they'r dressed down.
Have you ever heard of projection? It's actually a fairly common psychological defense mechanism among human beings. You should read about it.
 

HomerJS

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Some interesting facts about United Technologies parent of Carrier...
In 2014, United Technologies gave its former CEO Louis Chenevert a golden parachute worth over $172 million. Last year, the company’s five highest paid executives made over $50 million. The firm also spent $12 billion to inflate its stock price instead of using that money to invest in new plants and workers

So why did they need to take tax money from Indiana again??
 
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