Trump to reveal deal to keep nearly 1,000 Carrier jobs in Indiana

[buckshot24]

You know nothing except for fabricated assumptions and then you proceed to wildly extrapolate from there. Wake the fuck up, you're embarrassing yourself.

I heard the Bilderberg group was involved somehow. It's like they have all gone Alex Jones since Trump won. It is incredibly sad while being incredibly funny at the same time.

 

[echo4747]

What if Carrier was given the choice of 30-40% tariff and/or the threat of Trump asking Americans for a boycott of Carrier products. nothing else?

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, I agree with you that the meltdown of the middle class and the poor continues unabated, as it now looks under Trump's "Ransack for the Rich Plan for America".

Nice to know we can at the least agree on some things.

And yes, I have to admit I did lay it down pretty thick there, didn't I? But it was for effect and I felt it needed to be reiterated again to spot another benchmark in Trump's efforts "to drain the swamp". hahaha, Every time I hear that shtick it reminds me that Trump is only draining the swamp so he can fill it with his own special kind of muck that's 10x thicker and 100x deeper and like the muck before it, only meant to mire down the middle class and the poor.

You're one of my favorite meltdowners. It will get better, I was melting down in 2012 so there is hope.

 

[buckshot24]

What if Carrier was given the choice of 30-40% tariff and/or the threat of Trump asking Americans for a boycott of Carrier products. nothing else?

I hope it wasn't anything like that.

 

[Starbuck1975]

No, they have not. But you keep on believing whatever you want to believe.

The Republican-controlled Portland Police Association just renegotiated its labor contract with the city behind closed doors. Portland's finest can now retire at retirement age with a full pay pension guaranteed for life AND be rehired with full seniority and pay. Democrats in the city were outraged. There were protests. The mayor was voted out. The contract stays.

Protests in Portland are not an indicator of much of anything.

How do Republicans "control" police unions?

If Democrats are negotiating with the unions, and the unions get what they want regardless of whether or not it is sustainable, how is that the fault of Republicans?

As for Los Angeles, the pension shortfall is due to an accounting error made by Democrat leadership because they wrongfully projected tax revenues. That is an over simplification, but you can't pawn off poor governance of a city that has not been under Republican control for decades.

 

[fskimospy]

You know nothing except for your fabricated assumptions and then proceed to wildly extrapolate from there. Wake the fuck up, you're embarrassing yourself.

Glad to see you haven't changed, DSF. You accused me of both lying and embarrassing myself in one post, when usually you alternate between them when people tell you things you don't like. Remember how you asked me to be nicer to you and not make fun of you so much and I said that was fine so long as you behaved better? You're not exactly holding up your end of the bargain, my good friend.

 

[fskimospy]

What if Carrier was given the choice of 30-40% tariff and/or the threat of Trump asking Americans for a boycott of Carrier products. nothing else?

Then we would have the president elect selectively punishing companies for their employment choices, which is potentially a crime.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, everyone can see you're dishonestly conflating a tech investment program with a backdoor corp welfare for political photo op. Including buckshot even if he'll pretend to be too stupid to.

Let's talk about dishonesty. You seem to have inside knowledge here...please elaborate on what "corporate welfare" was given in order to keep these jobs here or at least be honest enough to admit that your just making up this shit as you go along. Let's look closely as to who's being the dishonest one here.

 

[fskimospy]

The meltdown continues. I don't believe anything about this deal, I don't know what happened.

Ok, but can you explain to me exactly what this deal entails? You seem to be holding back on some very important information.

We've already covered this: unless the deal involves literally nothing this is a stupid idea. It is highly unlikely this deal involves literally nothing, so only a moron would believe that.

There's really nothing else to be said.

 

[buckshot24]

We've already covered this: unless the deal involves literally nothing this is a stupid idea. It is highly unlikely this deal involves literally nothing, so only a moron would believe that.

There's really nothing else to be said.

So you don't have any inside information? Just speculating kind of like infowars. Alex would be proud. I'll form a judgment on this when I know more about it, I suggest you try it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You're one of my favorite meltdowners. It will get better, I was melting down in 2012 so there is hope.

if this is the net result of that meltdown, no, there is no hope. you are hopeless, a hack, a hopeless hack.

 

[fskimospy]

So you don't have any inside information? Just speculating kind of like infowars. Alex would be proud. I'll form a judgment on this when I know more about it, I suggest you try it.

Yes, just like people are speculating when they assume the sun will come up tomorrow, just like Infowars. If you're too stupid to be able to evaluate information and come to a logical conclusion that's something that you should seek help with because it's going to be a big challenge for you in life going forward.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, just like people are speculating when they assume the sun will come up tomorrow, just like Infowars. If you're too stupid to be able to evaluate information and come to a logical conclusion that's something that you should seek help with because it's going to be a big challenge for you in life going forward.

I'm doing just fine but thank you for your sincere concern, warmed my heart. So you don't know the details of the deal. I won't ask again.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm doing just fine but thank you for your sincere concern, warmed my heart. So you don't know the details of the deal. I won't ask again.

Bucky, I'm here for you and I'm committed to trying to make you a better, more moral person. There's a long road ahead of us, but we'll do it together.

 

[buckshot24]

Bucky, I'm here for you and I'm committed to trying to make you a better, more moral person. There's a long road ahead of us, but we'll do it together.

We'll do great things together, meat machine.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

We've already covered this: unless the deal involves literally nothing this is a stupid idea. It is highly unlikely this deal involves literally nothing, so only a moron would believe that.

There's really nothing else to be said.

Bottom line...YOU DON'T KNOW...yet you assume others are morons for calling you out on your speculation. I also don't know, but it appears quite possible that Trump may have indeed gave nothing...perhaps Pence (as Governor) provided some incentives as many States commonly do to attract and keep businesses.

 

[michal1980]

Because it's for select companies and not all companies. Not really a complicated thing.

Kind of like the auto bailout.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Kind of like the auto bailout.

And Wall Street as well. lol

Their hypocrisy has no bounds and they're totally oblivious to it.

 

[fskimospy]

Bottom line...YOU DON'T KNOW...yet you assume others are morons for calling you out on your speculation. I also don't know, but it appears quite possible that Trump may have indeed given nothing...perhaps Pence (as Governor) provided some incentives as many States commonly do to attract and keep businesses.

It's basically certain that the state gave something, which is why anyone who says otherwise is a moron. Do you not see the very large problem with the president-elect personally participating in negotiations with select companies from which they get special incentives? Not only does this encourage other companies to threaten the same thing, it also tells them that the president is willing to intervene on their behalf and likely to their benefit. That gives companies a great reason to suck up to the president in exchange for rewards later.

There's just so many dumb things about this regardless of what the details are. It should never have been done.

 

[fskimospy]

And Wall Street as well. lol

Their hypocrisy has no bounds and they're totally oblivious to it.

I 100% agree, the hypocrisy here is absolutely crazy. Democrats have never had a problem with the government intervening in industry to benefit the country as a whole, like with the bailouts. Republicans decried them both as unreasonable and terrible interventions into the free market that never should have been done. Saying the president shouldn't personally engage in negotiations with individual companies doesn't mean the government shouldn't intervene in the economy at all.

There IS a great deal of hypocrisy from conservatives though and they seem to be totally oblivious to it. Almost overnight they have gone from decrying government intervention like this to celebrating it. I haven't seen a single conservative come forward and admit it though.

 

[michal1980]

No, they have not. But you keep on believing whatever you want to believe.

The Republican-controlled Portland Police Association just renegotiated its labor contract with the city behind closed doors. Portland's finest can now retire at retirement age with a full pay pension guaranteed for life AND be rehired with full seniority and pay. Democrats in the city were outraged. There were protests. The mayor was voted out. The contract stays.

protland or? a city thats +70% democratic led by a democrat thats mayor? Funny that even when liberals are in charge you still blame republicans for the actions of the liberals. But please continue telling us how you arent a partisan hack.

 

[buckshot24]

It's basically certain that the state gave something, which is why anyone who says otherwise is a moron. Do you not see the very large problem with the president-elect personally participating in negotiations with select companies from which they get special incentives? Not only does this encourage other companies to threaten the same thing, it also tells them that the president is willing to intervene on their behalf and likely to their benefit. That gives companies a great reason to suck up to the president in exchange for rewards later.

There's just so many dumb things about this regardless of what the details are. It should never have been done.

You're not helping yourself, when you're melting down you should go somewhere cool.

 

[Vic]

protland or? a city thats +70% democratic led by a democrat thats mayor? Funny that even when liberals are in charge you still blame republicans for the actions of the liberals. But please continue telling us how you arent a partisan hack.

All elected positions in the city are non-partisan by law, but you keep on keeping on.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It's basically certain that the state gave something, which is why anyone who says otherwise is a moron. Do you not see the very large problem with the president-elect personally participating in negotiations with select companies from which they get special incentives? Not only does this encourage other companies to threaten the same thing, it also tells them that the president is willing to intervene on their behalf and likely to their benefit. That gives companies a great reason to suck up to the president in exchange for rewards later.

There's just so many dumb things about this regardless of what the details are. It should never have been done.

All I know is that a 1,000 people and their families are OK with it. Real people, people who are likely not the least bit concerned with your ideological sensibilities. Obama called Trump a pragmatist...I agree with his assessment and look forward to a lot more of it. Hang on...it's going to be a rough ride for you.

 

[fskimospy]

All elected positions in the city are non-partisan by law, you keep on keeping on.

Not to mention that police have a similar deal in New York, which has had a string of Republican mayors in recent years. Police unions are undeniably conservative leaning and they undeniably get cushy pension benefits. Whenever you see Republicans attacking unions you'll see they almost always leave the police out of it.