LOL at the degenerates who'll say anything to collect their white welfare.
Let's not pretend there's anything you won't excuse Trump for as long as you get yours.
The irony is that they don't actually get any 'white welfare.' They're just impotent losers whose only reward comes from being douchebags on the internet, and other anti-social behavior. Trump is just providing them the validation and the outlet to do so.
The spoils system does seem to be alive and well, and a favorite political tool of Mr. Trump, but I think calling it 'white welfare' doesn't help your case.A very large portion of red-staters are on some kind of gov subsidy at some point in life, whether it's the military industry or the various special tax breaks we see here. Of course they don't call it welfare per se because that's only for lazy black people. Just because they're not "poor" doesn't mean they don't milk the system.
Now that their guy is in office, look for the lot to angle for max return on their vote whether through the other taxpayers (ie blue coasts) or some other scheme. As mentioned in the wiki/econ link previous, this is their world now.
The spoils system does seem to be alive and well, and a favorite political tool of Mr. Trump, but I think calling it 'white welfare' doesn't help your case.
I'm 1000% positive you would be here spinning it as awesome if it had been Obama.
Trump isn't "the government" yet, and really, I don't give a good shit about this whole subject. I just find it funny to see you and others lose your head over "government leaning on private business" just because Trump was elected!
Like I said, it's going to be hilarious watching you and other Ginormous Government cheerleaders become small government types in the next four years! I agree with buckshot on this, we should just start calling you Milton already.
You are too stupid to understand what's going on here. We are laughing at you and the other cult followers who now have to contort yourselves to support trumps policies and decisions after complaining about those same type of policies and decisions for years.
Hypocrisy at its finest and I'm literally laughing at you!
Considering that United Technologies is Carrier's parent company, I can see how the deal was negotiated. He most likely told them that if they move to Mexico, they could jeopardize future defense contracts, worth billions. That's called applying effective leverage. Good on him! America first; piss on the globalists!
I can just see the complaints coming from the left, when he either helps save or create multi-millions of jobs. Poor world, America has theirs, but we shouldn't have it. Life is just not fair...boohoohoo! No, we are better positioned to help others in the world, once we solve the ills of our own people first.
You are too stupid to understand what's going on here. We are laughing at you and the other cult followers who now have to contort yourselves to support trumps policies and decisions after complaining about those same type of policies and decisions for years.
Hypocrisy at its finest and I'm literally laughing at you!
You're here whining and crying, shame. Same as you always do.
I for one find it your just comeuppance to have to suffer 4 years of Trump. Assholes like you that half the country rejected are the REASON the man is president.
I'm going to enjoy it for the entertainment value of watching the turds like you squirm and whine over everything the man does.
Don't worry- Trump & the Repubs will lay off a few 100K govt workers to make up the difference then privatize even more jobs at lower pay.
Just remember- Only Trump can fix it. He said so, therefore it must be true.
Well it's not like the government isn't the most bloated employer on the planet... and over paid.
It's very amusing to me that the free market conservatives who used to think until a month ago that the market was the best way to determine how things worked have suddenly decided that the government leaning on business to force them to make different choices is the best thing.
I wonder what changed. It's a total mystery. I also can't wait for them to tell me how government deficits aren't that big a problem and how the good economy Trump inherited is all his doing.
The hypocrisy is hilarious.
So when the state of Washington provides insane tax breaks and incentives to Boeing so as to prevent their shifting high quality union jobs to low paying right to work red states, is that good governance or craziness?Well, Indiana just lost half the Carrier jobs there, and paid a healthy sum in tax breaks to keep the remaining half, and yet here we are, celebrating Trump's jobs 'victory.'
Seems like the crazy has only just begun.
It is also funny this is even a thing considering 1,000 jobs is a rounding error.
So we basically have the president intervening in private business for no meaningful national purpose to save a meaningless number of jobs.
Smart move. The incompetence is unbelievable.
You should really go out and say this to one of the people who is not losing their jobs face, I would love to see that reaction.
pot meet kettle.
The guy that's nearly always for government interfering with business, is now against government interfering with business because: party.
"While terms of the deal are not yet clear, the sources indicated there were new incentives on offer from the state of Indiana, where Pence is governor, that helped clear a path for the agreement."
LOL
Well that's a good counter argument. I guess if you're against the affordable care act you should go tell someone whose life it saved that they shouldn't have been saved to their face. I'd love to see that reaction. (See how dumb that is?)
The president going around and leaning on companies to save small numbers of jobs as a PR stunt is not a smart or sustainable jobs policy. I find it amusing that conservatives who were apoplectic about Obama 'picking winners and losers' now have no problem with it though. It's always good when people show their true colors.
It was a state transaction. Sure, Trump gets great optics out of it because he pointed out Carrier during the campaign, but at the end of the day, he couldn't really offer them anything.
ACA didn't save anyone's life. Health care would have been there regardless (I think it's a law or something). ACA didn't train doctors, create medicines, pioneer surgical techniques.
All it did was raise costs and retard any semblance of economic recovery we might have had.
So? We can afford it here in Indiana. We have had two great governors (soon to be a third) that have put us in one of the best - if not the best - financial positions in the country. Huge surplus/rainy day fund, and taxes are still going down. This was a state transaction, not a federal one. Hell, Trump isn't even president, so technically all he can do is act tough. Looks like that is all it took.
It's hard for you to accept that, even before he is inaugurated, Trump is actually starting to deliver on promises. It feels like a dream... but I assure you it is real. It's just not something we are used to having the last 16 years.
So? We can afford it here in Indiana. We have had two great governors (soon to be a third) that have put us in one of the best - if not the best - financial positions in the country. Huge surplus/rainy day fund, and taxes are still going down. This was a state transaction, not a federal one. Hell, Trump isn't even president, so technically all he can do is act tough. Looks like that is all it took.
It's hard for you to accept that, even before he is inaugurated, Trump is actually starting to deliver on promises. It feels like a dream... but I assure you it is real. It's just not something we are used to having the last 16 years.
Don't know the details of the Carrier deal and what if any it will cost taxpayers. I would billing willing to bet that it will be much more beneficial than the half billion + Obama basically gave Solyndra