Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation

pauldun170

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Not sure if repost

You can add this to the truckfull of evidence that Trump is an old fool and then anyone who still backs him as a qualified to lead up the executive branch is just as much an idiot.

Its one thing to support the things being pushed by the GOP and the administration. Its another to look at Trump and decide he is quality material.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”

The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing.

The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.

Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account.

In a statement, he said that Mr. Comey had put unnecessary pressure on the president’s ability to conduct diplomacy with Russia on matters such as Syria, Ukraine and the Islamic State.

“By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia,” Mr. Spicer said. “The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.”

The day after firing Mr. Comey, Mr. Trump hosted Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, in the Oval Office, along with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey I. Kislyak. The meeting ignited controversy this week when it was revealed that Mr. Trump had disclosed intelligence from an Israeli counterterrorism operation.

A third government official briefed on the meeting defended the president, saying Mr. Trump was using a negotiating tactic when he told Mr. Lavrov about the “pressure” he was under. The idea, the official suggested, was to create a sense of obligation with Russian officials and to coax concessions out of Mr. Lavrov — on Syria, Ukraine and other issues — by saying that Russian meddling in last year’s election had created enormous political problems for Mr. Trump.

The president has been adamant that the meddling did not alter the outcome of the race, but it has become a political cudgel for his opponents.

Many Democrats and some Republicans have raised alarms that the president may have tried to obstruct justice by firing Mr. Comey. The Justice Department’s newly appointed special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, was given the authority to investigate not only potential collusion, but also related allegations, which would include obstruction of justice.

The F.B.I.’s investigation has bedeviled the Trump administration, and the president personally. Mr. Comey publicly confirmed the existence of the investigation in March, telling Congress that his agents were investigating Russian efforts to influence the outcome of the presidential election and whether anyone in the Trump campaign had been involved. Mr. Trump has denied any collusion and called the case a waste of money and time.

At first, the White House said Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey based on the recommendation of the Justice Department, and because of Mr. Comey’s handling of the F.B.I. investigation into Hillary Clinton last year. Officials said it had nothing to do with the Russia investigation.

But the president undercut that argument a day later, telling NBC News, “When I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.”
 

Maxima1

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It's obvious that if no one was on their *** about Russia, he would have gotten rid of sanctions, etc. GOP wouldn't have given two **** because they would have been giddy that they could use Russian disinfo to win elections.
 

Pens1566

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Hidden tidbit with this "leak", someone in the WH really wants Trump gone. I'm sure it's narrowed down to several hundred.
 
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JMC2000

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Hidden tidbit with this "leak", someone in the WH really wants Trump gone. I'm sure it's narrowed down to several hundred.
Of course there is; it's a "Deep State" rogue planted by Obama to discredit Trump.

You know that Obama is pissed about the 'birth certificate' issue, and wants to make Trump suffer for such a slight.


*cough*
 
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Mxylplyx

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This is getting to be surreal. There is so much to digest from this story.

The fact that he was having this discussion with the Russians, in the oval office, in the midst of the scrutiny directed towards Russia

The fact that he thought firing the head of the FBI would somehow ease the investigation

The fact that he was openly confessing to obstruction of justice.....to the FUCKING RUSSIANS!!

Sweet Jesus. It's as if Borat was playing president for a comedy skit or something.
 

fskimospy

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It's amazing how this guy seems to be talking himself into impeachment. Psst, Trump: obstruction of justice is really hard to prove. You make it way easier to prove when you keep repeatedly stating that you're trying to obstruct justice.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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It's amazing how this guy seems to be talking himself into impeachment. Psst, Trump: obstruction of justice is really hard to prove. You make it way easier to prove when you keep repeatedly stating that you're trying to obstruct justice.


Like I said elsewhere this bit of nonsense is just a piece in a puzzle that Mueller will put into place at the right time and place to reveal a larger picture. It seems that Trump can't keep from helping him.
 

interchange

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I'm waiting for a tweet from Trump with WTTE: it's not obstructing Justice if you're innocent.

Of course, he's wrong. It's not his lack of tact that's so damning really, it's just that he can't seem to humble himself enough to accept good advice. I think there's a large chance that he hasn't directly colluded with Russia (unsure of his associates), although doesn't seem to recognize conflicts of interest. But he's determined to dig a very deep grave.
 

UNCjigga

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Screw impeachment--Mr. Trump is unable to faithfully discharge the powers and duties of his office with this level of incompetency on display.

This 25th Amendment idea is growing on me:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
 

Indus

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Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Donald Trump knows what he's doing. Trump has no fucking clue what he's doing.

Can we argue the same for the people that voted to put him there?
 

woolfe9998

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It's amazing how this guy seems to be talking himself into impeachment. Psst, Trump: obstruction of justice is really hard to prove. You make it way easier to prove when you keep repeatedly stating that you're trying to obstruct justice.

I'm torn between Trump being the stupidest POTUS ever and him being the stupidest being in the universe who still technically qualifies as a "sentient" life form.

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to the Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

Doh!
 
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I do want to make one point. We are assuming this leak is fact. Someone heard something is not exactly concrete evidence.
Didn't someone hear something about Hillary selling all of the United States uranium to Russia?
Trump is a clown, a blow hard, a narcissist and many other shitty things but I'll wait for proof on this.
 

Maxima1

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I do want to make one point. We are assuming this leak is fact. Someone heard something is not exactly concrete evidence.
Didn't someone hear something about Hillary selling all of the United States uranium to Russia?
Trump is a clown, a blow hard, a narcissist and many other shitty things but I'll wait for proof on this.

They didn't deny that it happened.
 

cytg111

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Hidden tidbit with this "leak", someone in the WH really wants Trump gone. I'm sure it's narrowed down to several hundred.

It would be epic of epic proportions if it is Russia doing the leaking.
1. RNC was also hacked
2. Who knows who the russians have been talking to?(its the russians)
3. Who would run covert surveillance vs congress and gop?

Suppose Putins endgame is not getting a suckpuppet at the helm, suppose its the same as its always been; stir shit up and navigate the fallout. Maybe they're still stirring.
 
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