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buckshot24

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You cite their religion repeatedly. Please don't run from that now, unless you plan to renounce all of your bigotry en masse, which I would absolutely support. Please stop being a bigot. Please.

They are already thoroughly vetted. You'd fail the vetting to get into this country, that's how good it is.
You've failed to show any intolerance on my part. Instead of trying to label me why don't you argue against my points?
 

agent00f

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You've failed to show any intolerance on my part. Instead of trying to label me why don't you argue against my points?

Notice that people in the past have argued with you using everything including scholarly sources, and none have succeeded according to you.

Seem pretty obvious what the problem is here.
 

mikeymikec

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Guys, two things:

1) Several pages from the start of me talking to buckshot, he claimed he wasn't trying to tell me I'm wrong yet had spent his entire time disputing things I had said and justifying his own intolerance.
2) This is the guy who will chase his own tail for hours saying "evolution isn't sound!", ignore any evidence and make vaguely absurd statements regarding the theory to attack (that could be a strawman, facetiousness or showing just how poor a grasp he has on the topic) and when his own beliefs are challenged he also denies what his beliefs are.

What's the point. If maybe some day he shows some sign that he's willing to critically examine his own beliefs rather than looking for any way to justify them, then maybe it's worth discussing anything with him.
 
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agent00f

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Guys, two things:

1) Several pages from the start of me talking to buckshot, he claimed he wasn't trying to tell me I'm wrong yet spent his entire time disputing things I had said and justifying his own intolerance.
2) This is the guy who will chase his own tail for hours saying "evolution isn't sound!", ignore any evidence and make vaguely absurd statements regarding the theory to attack (that could be a strawman, facetiousness or showing just how poor a grasp he has on the topic) and when his own beliefs are challenged he also denies what his beliefs are.

What's the point. If maybe some day he shows some sign that he's willing to critically examine his own beliefs rather than looking for any way to justify them, then maybe it's worth discussing anything with him.

In his defense he's making the best of tools available to him.
 

pcgeek11

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Since the republicans seem to think that they are God's party (ROFL) lets see what the bible calls liberal shall we, now remember this is Jesus: God in the flesh speaking to us and then consider some of the attributes of our president-elect whom big religion endorsed. In the Cliff notes version Donald is a flaming liberal so put your pseudo righteousness cards away.

SNIP

When was the last time you went to church and felt welcome in their assembly? How many times did the offering plate get passed around? Can you show me in the bible where Jesus and the apostles conducted one service where a collection of money occurred? When the church was being initially established the parishioners were commanded to bring their things to the church so they could raise money but it didn't happen again. Didn't Jesus himself drive out the money changers from the temple with a whip? Have you noticed how many different things are for sale that are associated with Christianity? I say that the liberals are really those who claim to be conservatives and attempt to hide behind a cloak of religion that they won't even adhere to.

What does this have to do with my post that you quoted? I haven't mentioned religion or the bible in any of my post here.
 

agent00f

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Oh, That hurts....

You have nothing to say so you resort to insults. And then imply I have the mind of a baby.

OK, That is self-explanatory.

The explanation is small brains can't understand that reality insults them.
 
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zinfamous

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Guys, two things:

1) Several pages from the start of me talking to buckshot, he claimed he wasn't trying to tell me I'm wrong yet had spent his entire time disputing things I had said and justifying his own intolerance.
2) This is the guy who will chase his own tail for hours saying "evolution isn't sound!", ignore any evidence and make vaguely absurd statements regarding the theory to attack (that could be a strawman, facetiousness or showing just how poor a grasp he has on the topic) and when his own beliefs are challenged he also denies what his beliefs are.

What's the point. If maybe some day he shows some sign that he's willing to critically examine his own beliefs rather than looking for any way to justify them, then maybe it's worth discussing anything with him.

This is called buckshatting.
 

buckshot24

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Guys, two things:

1) Several pages from the start of me talking to buckshot, he claimed he wasn't trying to tell me I'm wrong yet had spent his entire time disputing things I had said and justifying his own intolerance.
At least you don't resort to insults, so thank you for that.

Are you intolerant of the religious belief that infidels should be put to death or that apostates should be killed? Yes, I am intolerant of those things.

I'm trying to get you to understand what I am thinking on this not trying to prove you wrong. You can't even get that right. If you don't want to understand me then put me on block and we both can be happier for it.
 

mikeymikec

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At least you don't resort to insults, so thank you for that.

Are you intolerant of the religious belief that infidels should be put to death or that apostates should be killed? Yes, I am intolerant of those things.

I'm trying to get you to understand what I am thinking on this not trying to prove you wrong. You can't even get that right. If you don't want to understand me then put me on block and we both can be happier for it.

Don't ask questions if you're not willing to discuss the answers, you're doing so likely in the hope that your unanswered question is a proof that your position is unassailable. The only thing you are interested in is making assertions that maybe be true on a very small scale and then applying them to nearly a quarter of the world's population. The same can be done for Christianity, and you would be denying every assertion until you're blue in the face, yet they're likely to have at least as much factual basis as yours do.
 
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justoh

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Maybe the apologists should judge islam based on islam, not their nominally muslim veterinarian or whatever.
 
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buckshot24

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Don't ask questions if you're not willing to discuss the answers, you're doing so likely in the hope that your unanswered question is a proof that your position is unassailable. The only thing you are interested in is making assertions that maybe be true on a very small scale and then applying them to nearly a quarter of the world's population. The same can be done for Christianity, and you would be denying every assertion until you're blue in the face, yet they're likely to have at least as much factual basis as yours do.
I'm willing to discuss the answers. The same cannot be done, legitimately, with Christianity. Nobody is talking about radical Christian terrorism because it isn't really thing. Islamic terrorism, is a thing and there is a reason it is a thing. That reason is Muhammad's example and the written words found in the Quran. It isn't an accident.
 

SP33Demon

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I'm willing to discuss the answers. The same cannot be done, legitimately, with Christianity. Nobody is talking about radical Christian terrorism because it isn't really thing. Islamic terrorism, is a thing and there is a reason it is a thing. That reason is Muhammad's example and the written words found in the Quran. It isn't an accident.
Buckshot is right. Islam needs to be put to bed, and liberals have been brainwashed by MSM to be "tolerant" of them which is exactly playing into their hands (like the covert refugee cells planted in Europe). That's why obama/clinton's bleeding heart open border policies were completely and utterly repudiated by (the smart) half of the country. Anyone who has actually read the Koran or studied mohammed knows that what they believe is a powderkeg of death waiting to be unleashed. Let them unleash it in their own areas, not here.
 
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Blue_Max

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Buckshot is right. Islam needs to be put to bed, and liberals have been brainwashed by MSM to be "tolerant" of them which is exactly playing into their hands (like the covert refugee cells planted in Europe). That's why obama/clinton's bleeding heart open border policies were completely and utterly repudiated by (the smart) half of the country. Anyone who has actually read the Koran or studied mohammed knows that what they believe is a powderkeg of death waiting to be unleashed. Let them unleash it in their own areas, not here.

Even if one didn't want to do any reading or study, all one has to do is open their eyes and see what's happening across Europe and refuse to allow that to also happen here.

...pity our Canadian prime minister Tater Tot is throwing open our borders to as many muslim (and ONLY muslim) immigrants as possible, AND approving muslim-only neighbourhoods with subsidized housing and reworked banking so there's no interest (by name at least) to comply with sharia law.

*sigh*
 

nakedfrog

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Buckshot is right. Islam needs to be put to bed, and liberals have been brainwashed by MSM to be "tolerant" of them which is exactly playing into their hands (like the covert refugee cells planted in Europe). That's why obama/clinton's bleeding heart open border policies were completely and utterly repudiated by (the smart) half of the country. Anyone who has actually read the Koran or studied mohammed knows that what they believe is a powderkeg of death waiting to be unleashed. Let them unleash it in their own areas, not here.
Can you expound on what this entails?
 

justoh

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Can you expound on what this entails?

Probably impossible, but you could start by not respecting it. Ultimately education is how you'd rid the world of religion, since you can't fight totalitarianism with totalitarianism. Doesn't mean you can't try stop the worst (best?) of their adherents from entering your country, as immigration policy.

Funny how the best argument any apologist can come up is that islam is ok because nobody really follows it that closely, and that their family doctor of 10 years is a wonderful man. There's nothing to recommend about islam, or either of the nonsense it was plagiarized from. It's also actually worse than either since it claims to be the final revelation. It's the ultimate monotheism. It's probably going to dominate the world in 50 years unless we make america great again.
 
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