Trump wants to invade.....

[K1052]

Possibly, it's Trump. Either way saying Trump wants to invade Chicago is dumb right?

I have no idea what he meant. He probably doesn't either.

 

[realibrad]

I have no idea what he meant. He probably doesn't either.

Trump or the OP. Trump sure, the OP took a pretty clear stance with his authorian comment. Should be pretty easy to call BS here. Do as you will.

 

[sandorski]

Trump or the OP. Trump sure, the OP took a pretty clear stance with his authorian comment. Should be pretty easy to call BS here. Do as you will.

Saying he wants to "Invade" is hyperbole, but as K1052 says, who knows? Trump's flippant response(s) are the problem.

 

[realibrad]

Saying he wants to "Invade" is hyperbole, but as K1052 says, who knows? Trump's flippant response(s) are the problem.

Lol, so the argument is that saying he wants to send in the feds could mean he wants to invade because you don't know what he might want to change his mind too. I suppose you could then argue that he might actually want to buy everyone season 2 of Hannah Montana because you never know with Trump right?

 

[sandorski]

so Obama sending thousands of US troops to the Balkans and Poland to poke the Russians is ok and not dangerous but Trump wanting to do something about all the violence in a American city is unstable and dangerous.

lol ok.

A President sending Troops to a Foreign nation to protect Allies is within the Jurisdiction of his/her Federal power. Doing the same to an American City/State is not, especially if it was not Requested.

 

[justoh]

So invading is sending in the FBI? So Obama invaded cities when he sent in the FBI to investigate shootings?

Is it dumb to go on social media before reaching out or meeting with people sure, but its not "Authoritarian declarations". That is dumb to try and argue.

If you think he is making a mistake, then say that. Saying he wants to invade Chicago is super dumb.

It's authoritarian in style, at the very least. The tone of the thread title/premise reflects the tone of the tweet. Make sense?

 

[sandorski]

Lol, so the argument is that saying he wants to send in the feds could mean he wants to invade because you don't know what he might want to change his mind too. I suppose you could then argue that he might actually want to buy everyone season 2 of Hannah Montana because you never know with Trump right?

Give him time and the Tweet that could imply this might exist.

 

[K1052]

Trump or the OP. Trump sure, the OP took a pretty clear stance with his authorian comment. Should be pretty easy to call BS here. Do as you will.

Trump. The OP's interpretation seems as good as any at this point.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't know what he could do though. He can't send in troops. He might do some things but unless requested there's a limited response. Sounds like big talk and no clues.

im betting on trump not knowing he cant send troops in.

 

[Vic]

so Obama sending thousands of US troops to the Balkans and Poland to poke the Russians is ok and not dangerous but Trump wanting to do something about all the violence in a American city is unstable and dangerous.

lol ok.

Foreign nations aren't protected from excessive federal intervention by the 10th amendment.

 

[BurnItDwn]

We really need to flush the toilet. Get that turd out of the white house.

 

[realibrad]

It's authoritarian in style, at the very least. The tone of the thread title/premise reflects the tone of the tweet. Make sense?

How is it authorian in style. If by the Feds he meant the FBI that would investigate, that would be authorian? What freedoms did the tweet imply it would take away?

 

[realibrad]

Trump. The OP's interpretation seems as good as any at this point.

So your argument really is Hannah Montana. Fucking hell.

 

[soulcougher73]

Wait... Isn't this the states rights government can do no right party? I'm getting confused now

 

[realibrad]

Give him time and the Tweet that could imply this might exist.

I am starting to believe it will take the left longer to pull it's collective head out of its ass than I had hoped. People like you switched places with the crazies on the right. Bravo!

 

[K1052]

So your argument really is Hannah Montana. Fucking hell.

Your theories about this are as valid as the OP's. Happy?

 

[MongGrel]

Invasion seems a bit overboard, where's Elliot Ness

Asked about Trump's statement following a Chicago city council meeting Wednesday, Emanuel said he "welcomed" the idea of greater federal assistance to address crime in the city. He said federal authorities already play an integral role in fighting crime in the city, referencing the transport of guns across state lines, among other areas.

"A lot of the guns, you know, coming into Chicago come from out of state," Emanuel said. "Federal entities are set up to deal with that. And they do. And they work with us. "

Mentioning past meetings with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, Emanuel said he has "been very clear about what we need to do."

Previously, Emanuel has specified areas he'd like the federal government's help -- including gun control, gun tracking, prosecution for gun crimes and help increase funding for more police officers.

Trump trying to shove it down peoples throat whether it is requested or not would be an issue.

The mayor seems to have little problem with assistance, though.

 

[sandorski]

I am starting to believe it will take the left longer to pull it's collective head out of its ass than I had hoped. People like you switched places with the crazies on the right. Bravo!

This Authoritarian streak has been noted throughout this Election cycle. Even before he was the Republican nominee it was a constant theme. What wasn't known was whether it was just rhetoric or something else. With each day since Election night it has become increasingly clear it was not just rhetoric.

 

[rudder]

If history has proven anything it's that Americans don't really care what we do to each other or ourselves.

Drug dealers killing themselves...no. But unfortunately some of this violence results in innocent people, including children, being killed. And i bet it would be safe to say that most of the homicides by guns in Chicago are done with illegally obtained weapons in defense of the illegal drug trade. Meanwhile in large swaths of the nation there are millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens that are not used criminally. Yet liberals use these murder statistics to cry about the evil of guns.... as if it is the guns turning gang members into killers.

 

[OutHouse]

Foreign nations aren't protected from excessive federal intervention by the 10th amendment.

I sure do wish that eyeroll emoji was available.

define excessive.

calling trump unstable and dangerous because he wants do something about the murders in an american city is ok but not calling Obama unstable and dangerous for the troop movements that makes the russians twitchy is not. sorry pal but that is pure bullshit and you know it.

 

[K1052]

Drug dealers killing themselves...no. But unfortunately some of this violence results in innocent people, including children, being killed. And i bet it would be safe to say that most of the homicides by guns in Chicago are done with illegally obtained weapons in defense of the illegal drug trade. Meanwhile in large swaths of the nation there are millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens that are not used criminally. Yet liberals use these murder statistics to cry about the evil of guns.... as if it is the guns turning gang members into killers.

I've maintained for a long time that it's drug prohibition that's to blame and not the guns themselves.

 

[MongGrel]

Drug dealers killing themselves...no. But unfortunately some of this violence results in innocent people, including children, being killed. And i bet it would be safe to say that most of the homicides by guns in Chicago are done with illegally obtained weapons in defense of the illegal drug trade. Meanwhile in large swaths of the nation there are millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens that are not used criminally. Yet liberals use these murder statistics to cry about the evil of guns.... as if it is the guns turning gang members into killers.

So are you one of those people that think it would be cool if anyone could just walk into a Walmart and buy a full auto MP5 over the counter ?

There are not many restrictions on guns as it is.

I've maintained for a long time that it's drug prohibition that's to blame and not the guns themselves.

This to a large extent, it is being proven in many other countries atm.

Modern day Prohibition.

 

[nickqt]

I've maintained for a long time that it's drug prohibition that's to blame and not the guns themselves.

Pretty much this.

Allow Jimmy's Stop 'n' Go and WalMart to sell cannabis and other regulated drugs, and what does turf matter to street gangs? Prositution...which should also be legal?

Prohibition of substances and vices create the black market that gangs then run as a market with market share.

 

[MongGrel]

Pretty much this.

Allow Jimmy's Stop 'n' Go and WalMart to sell cannabis and other regulated drugs, and what does turf matter to street gangs? Prositution...which should also be legal?

Prohibition of substances and vices create the black market that gangs then run as a market with market share.

That would cut into big pharma raping atm of course.

 

[rudder]

So are you one of those people that think it would be cool if anyone could just walk into a Walmart and buy a full auto MP5 over the counter ?

There are not many restrictions on guns as it is.

I am satisfied with current gun regulations regarding background checks. I dont see how you would infer my opinions on people being bale to purchase full auto rifles from walmart based on what i posted.

Althought i do think it is silly that an automatic rifle has to cost $30,000 because the ones on the market had to be made before a certain year. If you have ever fired an automatic rifle you would realize that most criminals would likely not use that ability. Hell, look at cime statistics and see how rare it is to see "assault weapons" used in crimes.

But your attitude is a typical liberal one. Forget the reasons why people in Chicago are killing themselves but lets push the narrative that guns are soooooo evil.