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MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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I am satisfied with current gun regulations regarding background checks. I dont see how you would infer my opinions on people being bale to purchase full auto rifles from walmart based on what i posted.

Althought i do think it is silly that an automatic rifle has to cost $30,000 because the ones on the market had to be made before a certain year. If you have ever fired an automatic rifle you would realize that most criminals would likely not use that ability. Hell, look at cime statistics and see how rare it is to see "assault weapons" used in crimes.

But your attitude is a typical liberal one. Forget the reasons why people in Chicago are killing themselves but lets push the narrative that guns are soooooo evil.

I've fired full auto weapons plenty of times in my life.

I even had to name/marry one and memorize it's serial number.

 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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I've maintained for a long time that it's drug prohibition that's to blame and not the guns themselves.


Exactly. The illegal drug trade is very lucrative for gangs. If guns were all suddenly vaporized there would be just as much violence with knives, spears, crossbows, etc.

Poor Mexico has been devasted by this as well.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Exactly. The illegal drug trade is very lucrative for gangs. If guns were all suddenly vaporized there would be just as much violence with knives, spears, crossbows, etc.

Poor Mexico has been devasted by this as well.

You intentionally missed my point.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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I sure do wish that eyeroll emoji was available.

define excessive.

calling trump unstable and dangerous because he wants do something about the murders in an american city is ok but not calling Obama unstable and dangerous for the troop movements that makes the russians twitchy is not. sorry pal but that is pure bullshit and you know it.
I didn't call anyone unstable or dangerous, I was just pointing out that your analogy was not equivalent.
The President has fairly broad powers with regards to foreign policy, but considerably less so with the cities.
But I guess Republicans don't believe in states rights anymore now that their guy is in the White House.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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This Authoritarian streak has been noted throughout this Election cycle. Even before he was the Republican nominee it was a constant theme. What wasn't known was whether it was just rhetoric or something else. With each day since Election night it has become increasingly clear it was not just rhetoric.

I will ask you the same question I asked justoh. What rights are being threatened? For it to be more than stupid and to be authorian, freedoms need to be in danger. You are labeling this event in a stupid way. He is doing worse shit, but you chase this like a cat chasing a Lazer pointer.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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50 times more people are going to die annually from Obamacare repeal than are murdered in Chicago every year. Maybe Trump should be focused on the replacement plan instead of trolling.
 
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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I will ask you the same question I asked justoh. What rights are being threatened? For it to be more than stupid and to be authorian, freedoms need to be in danger. You are labeling this event in a stupid way. He is doing worse shit, but you chase this like a cat chasing a Lazer pointer.

We will know soon enough what Rights will be threatened. That's not really the only problem though. This type of rash decision making is a problem unto itself.
 
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OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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50 times more people are going to die annually from Obamacare repeal than are murdered in Chicago every year. Maybe Trump should be focused on the replacement plan instead of trolling.

source other than your hysteria.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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So since something like 70% of guns used in crimes in Chicago originate from areas surrounding Chicago that have less strict gun laws, is he going to fix that issue by pushing for stricter gun laws?
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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No, but why would someone be? Obama never acted brash or even hinted he wanted to go after someones' guns.

Obama authorized the killing of a US citizen without a trial. That seems pretty authorian to me. Even worse it now gives Trump legal precedent. So, if Obama was willing to take the right of a trial what makes you do sure? By your logic, Obama could not be trusted and may do anything. Or maybe that is unreasonable just like saying Trump wants to invade because he said he might send in federal agents... maybe?
 
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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Obama authorized the killing of a US citizen without a trial. That seems pretty authorian to me. Even worse it now gives Trump legal precedent. So, if Obama was willing to take the right of a trial what makes you do sure? By your logic, Obama could not be trusted and may do anything. Or maybe that is unreasonable just like saying Trump wants to invade because he said he might send in federal agents... maybe?

An active Recruiter for Al Queda in Yemen.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,227
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An American citizen


Due process until you are a bad guy. Once a bad guy throw them out of a helicopter amiright? Laws are for losers and Trump knows it. Good thing Obama expanded the executive powers for our great orange leader. After all, orange is the new black.

He was an active Criminal involved in a Criminal act. Are you going to start criticizing every Criminal committing a Crime shot/killed by Cops for the same reasons?
 
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agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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I will ask you the same question I asked justoh. What rights are being threatened? For it to be more than stupid and to be authorian, freedoms need to be in danger. You are labeling this event in a stupid way. He is doing worse shit, but you chase this like a cat chasing a Lazer pointer.

By definition "authority" means someone in power doing whatever because they want to. No real reasoned/rationed discourse, just because they feel like it. Such as watching the O'Reily show about "those people" getting uppity, and just felt like he should do something about it.

But unfortunately for the rest of us it's forever stuck in the dumbshit head that it's all about them drone strikes or who the hell knows/cares what that brain cell is up to.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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He was an active Criminal involved in a Criminal act. Are you going to start criticizing every Criminal committing a Crime shot/killed by Cops for the same reasons?

Caught jaywalking, take two bullets to the head. Fuck separation of powers. The executive branch would be far more efficient if was judge, jury, and executioner. Trump will make sure to take that baton and expand those new powers.

You only get to use lethal force when you can't take in someone in. No attempt was made to capture the US citizen. Details were made classified with the argument that it was an executive decision. We should trust our great leaders when they expand their powers right?
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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By definition "authority" means someone in power doing whatever because they want to. No real reasoned/rationed discourse, just because they feel like it. Such as watching the O'Reily show about "those people" getting uppity, and just felt like he should do something about it.

But unfortunately for the rest of us it's forever stuck in the dumbshit head that it's all about them drone strikes or who the hell knows/cares what that brain cell is up to.

Authoritarian -

1. favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom.

2. of or relating to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people.

3. exercising complete or almost complete control over the will of another or of others

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/authoritarian

See the theme there Agent? A leader making decisions that is within their discretion is not authoritarian. Tweeting about it is stupid, but its not authoritarian.
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
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How dare he bring attention to a high number of shootings and homicides in areas that he promised he would help clean up.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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How dare he bring attention to a high number of shootings and homicides in areas that he promised he would help clean up.

The only "help" he has thus far promised is to allow authorities to conduct policing that most likely violates the constitution.
 
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