Trump will win in a landslide

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compuwiz1

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Please don't gloat. I mean it. Come together and lets try and make it work. We are all we have.
 
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MajinCry

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How will he destroy the education system?

The guy can't even run a hotel casino, and he's going to be at the forefront of the country. When the debt starts piling on, it's the public services that suffer, and education is one of them.

God forbid he actually puts his hand into the nitty gritty and dictates the curriculum. You guys had that whole hubbub of creationism being taught as a valid subject in schools, after all.
 

HamburgerBoy

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The guy can't even run a hotel casino, and he's going to be at the forefront of the country. When the debt starts piling on, it's the public services that suffer, and education is one of them.

God forbid he actually puts his hand into the nitty gritty and dictates the curriculum. You guys had that whole hubbub of creationism being taught as a valid subject in schools, after all.

Education is largely handled by state budgets here, not federal. Lack of money isn't exactly the issue either, with some of the worst areas receiving some of the most money. The problem is poor allocation of funds, combined with parents that treat public school as a government-provided daycare and take no active interest in their child's education.
 

frowertr

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This thread is awesome.

I cant wait till all those left leanings celebrities move out of the country now like they promised with a Trump win.

Great time to be a Republican...
 

SolMiester

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Oh boy, get ready for Armageddon, start of the end for the US....you guys are phucked...should have a law against rednecks voting! Either Trump will take you backwards 50 yrs in diplomacy, or someone will take him out within 6mths. You read it here 1st!
 

SolMiester

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I cant believe the US voted a bigoted, prejudiced I am. say hello to your LGBT friends for me! LMAO
 

HamburgerBoy

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I cant believe the US voted a bigoted, prejudiced I am. say hello to your LGBT friends for me! LMAO

Trump has a better public record regarding LGBT issues than Clinton. He had to put it on the backburner to appease evangelicals, but that's one of the things you should be the least worried about him messing up.
 

agent00f

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Education is largely handled by state budgets here, not federal. Lack of money isn't exactly the issue either, with some of the worst areas receiving some of the most money. The problem is poor allocation of funds, combined with parents that treat public school as a government-provided daycare and take no active interest in their child's education.

Given you've never actually been to any of these areas it's not terribly wise to faithfully believe the party rhetoric on the matter.
 

werepossum

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Well, I am big enough to admit I was wrong. I did not believe that a Reagan-style landslide was still possible for any Republican, or that Donald Trump could beat, well, anyone. Congrats, John Connor. You were right, and I was wrong.
 
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HamburgerBoy

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Given you've never actually been to any of these areas it's not terribly wise to faithfully believe the party rhetoric on the matter.



DC receives plenty of funding and has crap schools, for example. Obviously it's complicated to look at it from a state level when it school quality can vary significantly from county to county, but the correlation between funding and student quality is fairly modest afaik if you exclude outliers like magnet schools and consider local demographics (e.g. Massachusetts and Connecticut generally have excellent stats by most metrics, how do we know it's due to quality public schools creating good citizens vs the other way around?).
 

boomerang

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Well, I am big enough to admit I was wrong. I did not believe that a Reagan-style landslide was still possible for any Republican, or that Donald Trump could beat, well, anyone.
What makes it even tougher to believe is that it meant taking on ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, CNN, MSNBC and all of the rest except one to make it happen. Trump's victory is one of truly epic proportions.

But the heart of his victory is rooted in the swinging of the pendulum. Eight years of Obama with all the bullshit stat's, the exponential growth in our debt, the collapse of our standing in the world (by design), the enormous lack of transparency, the huge lies told to us to pass legislation on a purely partisan basis, legislation that has got us in worse financial shape than before, the enormous influx of people that are takers and not makers (and couldn't be in the Obama economy) have all contributed to a Trump Presidency. The progressive vision for the U.S. has been beaten back but the same players, unless ridden out of town on rails will still be in play and they've got over two months to further damage the system.

And they absolutely will.

The name of the game now is to create the foundation needed to blame the Republican Party for all the ills foisted upon us by eight years of Obama. These people are masters at it and they have huge support among people that have been taught they are the smartest people in any room. Mix in a media that is going to be hell-bent on revenge and well, it's going to be interesting.
 
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agent00f

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DC receives plenty of funding and has crap schools, for example. Obviously it's complicated to look at it from a state level when it school quality can vary significantly from county to county, but the correlation between funding and student quality is fairly modest afaik if you exclude outliers like magnet schools and consider local demographics (e.g. Massachusetts and Connecticut generally have excellent stats by most metrics, how do we know it's due to quality public schools creating good citizens vs the other way around?).

It's pretty obvious the cost of running a school in an expensive city is more expensive all else equal. If you've been to schools in rich vs poor areas you wouldn't be saying what you are now; think about that a bit, you're not stupid.
 

Blanky

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Well evidently john connor made a lot of you people look like clowns. Have you learned anything?
 

Blanky

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It doesn't seem like it was a landslide... infact he lost the popular vote.
True, but he is going to get about 300 electoral and in any case a win is a hell of a lot better than most here thought.
 

Jaskalas

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Trump's win is proof that we are no longer a Christian nation.

Duh?
Sorry, but the battle to teach Evolution in schools started over 100 years ago.
Christian historical symbols were being swept under the rug not long after.

Also... maybe that's the reason behind Mike Pence. Perhaps those voters were unwilling to listen to Trump's opponents. If you don't let the attackers define him, he's a sleaze, but not the antichrist.
 
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Not sure if it would qualify as a landslide, but that's all irrelevant now, he won, congrats. I truly hope he keeps none of his promises. You were right, to a point John, trump did win.
 
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Epic thread is epic. Hi Sheik, hope you aren't drinking yourself into oblivion right now.
I don't drink, but I also don't slink away. Congrats, he won. I figured you and others would come back to gloat, thank you for not disappointing.
 

hondaf17

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Please don't gloat. I mean it. Come together and lets try and make it work. We are all we have.

I agree with you.

However, there were a little of liberals very nasty in these forums and in this thread. Name calling and brutal to the OP and anyone that dared disagree with them. They get what they deserve. Reap what you sow.
 
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fskimospy

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I don't drink, but I also don't slink away. Congrats, he won. I figured you and others would come back to gloat, thank you for not disappointing.

Yeah, I don't know what else to say. It looks like he will win the election while losing the popular vote so while that's as far from a landslide as a win can be he was still much more right than I was.

So kudos for the correct prediction!
 

HamburgerBoy

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It's a landslide compared to the projected polls, but yeah, a few hundred thousand more for Clinton in the closest states and he would have lost. Very close race.
 

Jaskalas

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Guys, about the popular vote question. It's razor thin and Arizona is only ~75% counted.
Might tip it back in his favor. Unless the truck drivers ran back to Mexico with the ballots after seeing the national results...
 
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