Trump Will Win Re-election for 2020 (Personal Prediction)

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nOOky

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Anecdotally I've heard from many younger independent voters that despite Trump, they don't like Biden either. Why I think is because of the propaganda painted by the Trump campaign that is putting shit out there everywhere making Biden look like a horrible candidate. The Democrats need to start hitting the air waves hard, and Joe needs to get his ass out there more stumping in the hot spots, and explaining why a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote.

I've seen ads from the Trump campaign, and they don't say anything about his message, they merely attack Biden. While this may seem foolish, it's working, as all Trump needs to do is make himself seem at least a bit less horrible than Biden. It's all about the independents at this point imho, and if they believe the obvious lies put out by the Trump campaign we're doomed for another 4 years of this shit.
 

Stokely

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I think it's quite possible, but then I have a very low opinion of the American voter as a whole. A bunch of terrified low-information xenophobic morons taken collectively.

Hispanics for Trump is like roaches for Raid. Gotta love people voting for the dude that thinks you are subhuman, makes perfect sense.
 

SMOGZINN

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Anecdotally I've heard from many younger independent voters that despite Trump, they don't like Biden either. Why I think is because of the propaganda painted by the Trump campaign that is putting shit out there everywhere making Biden look like a horrible candidate.
I don't think it is the propaganda as much as the fact that Biden is boring. He is as white bread as they come. He has no strong positions, he is not particularly progressive. He is not a great orator, and he certainly is not a flamboyant playboy like Trump. The best thing anyone can really say about Biden is that he is competent. He will make a very boring and steady President. Maybe that is what we really need right now, someone that will keep their head down and do the work of fixing all the shit Trump has broken, but it is hard to get excited about someone that can best be described as a competent bureaucrat.

I've talked to a lot of those younger people myself, and they all pretty much tell me the same thing, they might not be excited for Biden, but they sure as hell will vote for him.
I think it helps that there have not really been any high profile 3rd party candidates, or this might be a different race. Too many people still believe that they can cast 'protest' votes for 3rd party candidates.
 
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K1052

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Lol, forum dummy tries to spin poll that shows Biden winning in Florida as bad news for Biden.

Polls have found Trump doing marginally better with hispanic voters but absolutely cratering with white voters, seniors, and college educated. Not sure a poll that likely represents some improvement in his standing with Cubans in Miami-Dade as a remarkable finding. Also when you're slicing that finely in a n=500 poll the MOE starts to get comical.
 

fskimospy

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Polls have found Trump doing marginally better with hispanic voters but absolutely cratering with white voters, seniors, and college educated. Not sure a poll that likely represents some improvement in his standing with Cubans in Miami-Dade as a remarkable finding. Also when you're slicing that finely in a n=500 poll the MOE starts to get comical.
This is true, but again he’s citing a poll showing Biden winning in a state as bad news for him.

If Biden wins Florida it’s game over, Trump is toast. Imagine how stupid someone would have to be to show evidence of an outcome that means Trump surely loses the election as evidence for him winning.
 

K1052

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This is true, but again he’s citing a poll showing Biden winning in a state as bad news for him.

If Biden wins Florida it’s game over, Trump is toast. Imagine how stupid someone would have to be to show evidence of an outcome that means Trump surely loses the election as evidence for him winning.

Yes, a loss in FL is a near certain fatal blow to Trump's chances.
 
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Caveman

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I think it's quite possible, but then I have a very low opinion of the American voter as a whole. A bunch of terrified low-information xenophobic morons taken collectively.

Hispanics for Trump is like roaches for Raid. Gotta love people voting for the dude that thinks you are subhuman, makes perfect sense.

Disclaimer: Not a republican or a democrat, but like to get people thinking on both sides of the fence.

Have you considered how uniformed your statement appears? Did it occur to you that perhaps you are ill-informed? Could it be that the people most knowledgible on immigration reform and it's adverse impacts are those affected by it? Your "roaches for Raid" comment reveals your vanity and arrogance. Why not let those who are Hispanic decide for themselves what they agree with and what they don't? There are many non-native Americans that see the current immigration movement as a great thing.
 

Franz316

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actually an NBC/Marist poll today shows Trump with a 1 point lead in Florida among registered voters
I saw that, it's a little unsettling. It's incredible to me that the millionaires in the south of the state have convinced the poor people in the north to vote for the same person.
 

K1052

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actually an NBC/Marist poll today shows Trump with a 1 point lead in Florida among registered voters

This is what we got today per 538




I guess the message is that Florida is rather likely to be close which has kinda been a thing since 1992.
 

vi edit

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Yeah FL was 110k vote difference between Trump and Clinton. Amost 300k votes went to libertarian and green party.

So this year is totally in the "don't drink and wait for FL results on Tuesday" territory. It's going to be a shit show.
 

Jhhnn

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K1052

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Yeah FL was 110k vote difference between Trump and Clinton. Amost 300k votes went to libertarian and green party.

So this year is totally in the "don't drink and wait for FL results on Tuesday" territory. It's going to be a shit show.

Everybody better mentally prep for Election Week instead of Election Day due to how a lot of states will be counting their absentees and the likely volume.
 

hal2kilo

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Everybody better mentally prep for Election Week instead of Election Day due to how a lot of states will be counting their absentees and the likely volume.
Don't know if our instant gratification culture can handle it.
 

sportage

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Anecdotally I've heard from many younger independent voters that despite Trump, they don't like Biden either. Why I think is because of the propaganda painted by the Trump campaign that is putting shit out there everywhere making Biden look like a horrible candidate. The Democrats need to start hitting the air waves hard, and Joe needs to get his ass out there more stumping in the hot spots, and explaining why a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote.

I've seen ads from the Trump campaign, and they don't say anything about his message, they merely attack Biden. While this may seem foolish, it's working, as all Trump needs to do is make himself seem at least a bit less horrible than Biden. It's all about the independents at this point imho, and if they believe the obvious lies put out by the Trump campaign we're doomed for another 4 years of this shit.

College kids on the campuses across America have adopted the term, "F... BIDEN". They won't vote for him, they do not take Biden seriously, they don't even want to talk about Joe Biden, and should anyone try, they will get that "F... BIDEN" back in their face. It's probably a face mask thing because most college kids do not want to wear a mask and more so to be told to wear a face mask. Masks and campus parties just don't seem to mix. And I've noticed some of that same Hillary hate being directed at Joe Biden. The college youth did not like Hillary because Hillary came off as an authority figure, and now the same goes for Joe. The youth won't allow some old fart to boss them around or tell them what they can or cannot do. On the plus side, college kids don't vote. And while they may hate grandpa Joe, they are too lazy to bother voting for Donald Trump.
 

nOOky

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I think it's quite possible, but then I have a very low opinion of the American voter as a whole. A bunch of terrified low-information xenophobic morons taken collectively.

Hispanics for Trump is like roaches for Raid. Gotta love people voting for the dude that thinks you are subhuman, makes perfect sense.

It sure does seem this way, sadly. I mean I know so many R's personally that buy into the Fox news retoric, they sit there and watch with shining eyes and shaking heads because that kind of propaganda resonates with them. They are very short on facts and big on feelings. I mean, they watch t.v. at night and it's really their only source of information. When asked about Trump invariably the answer is still something like "well would you rather have Killary in there right now?".
 

Jhhnn

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College kids on the campuses across America have adopted the term, "F... BIDEN". They won't vote for him, they do not take Biden seriously, they don't even want to talk about Joe Biden, and should anyone try, they will get that "F... BIDEN" back in their face. It's probably a face mask thing because most college kids do not want to wear a mask and more so to be told to wear a face mask. Masks and campus parties just don't seem to mix. And I've noticed some of that same Hillary hate being directed at Joe Biden. The college youth did not like Hillary because Hillary came off as an authority figure, and now the same goes for Joe. The youth won't allow some old fart to boss them around or tell them what they can or cannot do. On the plus side, college kids don't vote. And while they may hate grandpa Joe, they are too lazy to bother voting for Donald Trump.

From whence did you acquire that silly notion?
 
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