I've been talking to years to anyone who would listen that Trump was going to split the Republican party, resulting in a democratic hegemony for a decade or two until someone else got their shit together.
I've been talking to years to anyone who would listen that Trump was going to split the Republican party, resulting in a democratic hegemony for a decade or two until someone else got their shit together.
Nah, you've got tons of disillusioned Republicans that turned into nobody-but-trumpers around 2015. It may not have required Trump to make that happen but Trump was definitely the fulcrum.I don't think it's Trump splitting the party, so much as a split party finding themselves a Trump. If he didn't exist they'd have invented him.
The Tories here seem to also be irretrievably-split into feuding factions (though it's more multi-polar in their case, more than just two sects). I reckon it's something socio-economic that is causing the right to splinter everywhere.
Nah, you've got tons of disillusioned Republicans that turned into nobody-but-trumpers around 2015. It may not have required Trump to make that happen but Trump was definitely the fulcrum.
Mind you, the progressives in the US are ripe for a similar treatment. A charismatic horror show could do the same thing on the other end.
He's not a horror show, he'd probably make a great president frankly.Jon Stewart!!!
Yeah, a lot of this depends on how you view Trump. If you view him as a regular candidate it's a perfectly decent showing in NH for him. If you view him as the incumbent, it's a very bad showing for him, on par with GHWB in 1992.Setting aside he's ineligible, I like that he's under performing again. I expect that to continue, especially now that his brain seems to be getting less oxygen by the day. Guy is one step away from being a vegetable in a diaper.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden wins the write in effort in NH and switches the first primary to SC, just like he wanted.
Yeah, a lot of this depends on how you view Trump. If you view him as a regular candidate it's a perfectly decent showing in NH for him. If you view him as the incumbent, it's a very bad showing for him, on par with GHWB in 1992.
If Trump continues to decline mentally at this rate and still is the nominee, Biden will wipe the floor with him. All he needs is one debate.
of course, but by then he will be way farther gone and he'll be the one looking mentally incompetent while Biden seems refreshing compared to dementia TrumpIn the case of Trump and Biden in a debate, Trump will be screaming his face off with lie after lie after bald faced lie in his attempts to literally smother any fact and truths that Biden brings up about him of which Trump won't be able to credibly refute. It will be Trump attempting to control the narrative by spewing forth the same worn out talking points and catch phrases, incessantly interrupting Biden's comments. He will be totally ignoring the rules he'd previously agreed to along with being deaf to the host's efforts to establish some manner of decorum in the "debate".
His main objective will be to wreck the debate and turn it into "The Trump Carnival and Freak Show" virtually shoving Biden off the stage. It will be all about him and how he was victimized by "The Establishment" and the evil hoax liberal media.
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I mean that's what he did in 2020 and it was not particularly effective.In the case of Trump and Biden in a debate, Trump will be screaming his face off with lie after lie after bald faced lie in his attempts to literally smother any fact and truths that Biden brings up about him of which Trump won't be able to credibly refute. It will be Trump attempting to control the narrative by spewing forth the same worn out talking points and catch phrases, incessantly interrupting Biden's comments. He will be totally ignoring the rules he'd previously agreed to along with being deaf to the host's efforts to establish some manner of decorum in the "debate".
His main objective will be to wreck the debate and turn it into "The Trump Carnival and Freak Show" virtually shoving Biden off the stage. It will be all about him and how he was victimized by "The Establishment" and the evil hoax liberal media.
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I'm not sure there will even be debates this time.
They put him in a box last time after his first debate, I'm sure they'll just start with one this time around.In the case of Trump and Biden in a debate, Trump will be screaming his face off with lie after lie after bald faced lie in his attempts to literally smother any fact and truths that Biden brings up about him of which Trump won't be able to credibly refute. It will be Trump attempting to control the narrative by spewing forth the same worn out talking points and catch phrases, incessantly interrupting Biden's comments. He will be totally ignoring the rules he'd previously agreed to along with being deaf to the host's efforts to establish some manner of decorum in the "debate".
His main objective will be to wreck the debate and turn it into "The Trump Carnival and Freak Show" virtually shoving Biden off the stage. It will be all about him and how he was victimized by "The Establishment" and the evil hoax liberal media.
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Trump is the national populist candidate: a lot of blue collar workers want the economic security nets but don't want to share them with immigrants and "outsiders", so you get a kind of freaky economically "liberal" but socially conservative Frankenstein's monster of a political movement.
I'm not sure there will even be debates this time.
You have the right wingers that only want to tear down their "enemies" and really don't care about anything else, it's about identity and grievance. Then you have right wingers that actually care about conservate policies. The two don't mesh well.I don't think it's Trump splitting the party, so much as a split party finding themselves a Trump. If he didn't exist they'd have invented him.
The Tories here seem to also be irretrievably-split into feuding factions (though it's more multi-polar in their case, more than just two sects). I reckon it's something socio-economic that is causing the right to splinter everywhere.
Trump is the national populist candidate: a lot of blue collar workers want the economic security nets but don't want to share them with immigrants and "outsiders", so you get a kind of freaky economically "liberal" but socially conservative Frankenstein's monster of a political movement.
The blue blood pubs that have lost their party were the fiscally conservative and socially moderate crowd and they're pretty god damn homeless right now.
They seem to have rationalized it as 'they are cheating in every election we don't win' but even there I'm sure on one level they know they are lying and this is performative.... and the GQP is going to find large numbers of them crashing with friends this November, again.
That's been one of the more satisfying parts of their defeats these last four years, for me. Not just Team Treason losing, but losing in places they just shouldn't. Watching magats trying to process, then rationalize, the notion of a registered red voting blue...
*chef's kiss* I wish I could bottle that.
... and the GQP is going to find large numbers of them crashing with friends this November, again.
That's been one of the more satisfying parts of their defeats these last four years, for me. Not just Team Treason losing, but losing in places they just shouldn't. Watching magats trying to process, then rationalize, the notion of a registered red voting blue...
*chef's kiss* I wish I could bottle that.
The Democratic establishment is not on the right. They may be less liberal than you would like them to be, but they are most certainly liberal.- A potentially worrying outcome is a significant portion of these folks become Dem voters and drive the Dem establishment even further to the right than it already is.
Then the center left is homeless (the far left has always been homeless in US politics so no loss there).
Many feared Joe Biden was a moderate/centrist by traditional standards, but he's surprised people with his progressive chops.- A potentially worrying outcome is a significant portion of these folks become Dem voters and drive the Dem establishment even further to the right than it already is.
Then the center left is homeless (the far left has always been homeless in US politics so no loss there).