The EC was more so due to transportation back then and the logistics of a nationwide election. There was also the hope the EC would serve as protection against someone unqualified that was a demagogue. Both points are now void.
The EC was more so due to transportation back then and the logistics of a nationwide election. There was also the hope the EC would serve as protection against someone unqualified that was a demagogue. Both points are now void.The EC and Senate are gerrymanders written into the Constitution. The purpose was to protect slavery. The slavers lost a few years back so it is well past time to jettison both the EC and the Senate.
What I'm advocating is a constitutional republic, as opposed to mob rule. I like our system, I like the way it works, I like a reasonably stable government.If we end political gerrymandering a large part of the EC problem will self correct.
No, gerrymandering in its current form was not part of the design.
The problems with the EC was foreseen even before. Bush v Gore and was predicted then the negative outcome. We also need to expand the House and Senate to reflect today’s population. No way a state with a population of 300K should have the same representation as 12M
What you are advocating for is apartheid.
The electoral college and the senate have literally zero to do with if we are a republic or not.What I'm advocating is a constitutional republic, as opposed to mob rule. I like our system, I like the way it works, I like a reasonably stable government.
I like the way it works
Yeah, I wish more people would just say 'I like the electoral college because it delivers my preferred candidate more often than a direct election would'.This I believe.
That's the part nobody gets. The EC was intented to be a circuit breaker to prevent crackpots from getting in.If the EC actually worked as originally intended, trump wouldn’t have ever been President.
| Race and Hispanic Origin | |
|---|---|
| White alone, percent | 89.8% |
| Black or African American alone, percent(a) | 4.4% |
| American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) | 0.6% |
| Asian alone, percent(a) | 2.8% |
| Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent(a) | 0.2% |
| Two or More Races, percent | 2.2% |
| Hispanic or Latino, percent(b) | 6.9% |
| White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent | 83.7% |
It was primarily created to protect slavery but that was a hoped for side effect, yes.That's the part nobody gets. The EC was intented to be a circuit breaker to prevent crackpots from getting in.
I know one primary I can guarantee trump won’t win.
Nevada. Because the republicans there forgot to file the proper paperwork to have him on the ballot. 😂
Oh well.False claim Trump won't be on Nevada primary ballot because of paperwork oversight | Fact check
Trump will be on the Nevada GOP caucus ballot. Party rules prevent caucus candidates from also participating in the state-run presidential primary.www.usatoday.com
It was primarily created to protect slavery but that was a hoped for side effect, yes.
Fact checkers say he was talking about keeping Iowa first in the caucus/primary season.Has anyone mentioned Trump saying "Four more years and beyond"?
Exit polls also said that nearly a third would not vote for trump if he’s convicted.
No one is suggesting we get rid of the President or voting for representatives, where do you come up with this stuff? Not a single state uses an electoral college type system to vote for Governor, are all 50 states run by mob rule?What I'm advocating is a constitutional republic, as opposed to mob rule. I like our system, I like the way it works, I like a reasonably stable government.
Yes it's weird that @Greenman is arguing eliminating the EC would make small states irrelevant when they are not only currently irrelevant but the elimination of the EC would actually make them far MORE relevant!It is impressive how people can extoll the virtues of the EC almost entirely incorrectly and at the same time ignore the core purpose of the mechanism. Some are just wrong and the others are liars for political reasons.
He's already been convicted of sexual abuse.Exit polls also said that nearly a third would not vote for trump if he’s convicted.
He's already been convicted of sexual abuse.
Or at least 'found liable', which is essentially the same.