Trump wins Iowa - is anyone surprised?

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woolfe9998

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No way Trumps standing after this election cycle, his brains will be leaking out of his ears by then.

I think what little there was already leaked out.


Three times he says that Haley was "in charge of security" on 1/6, when she had no post in DC at the time. He was confusing her with Nancy Pelosi, attempting to repeat his crackpot theory that Pelosi was in charge, but mistaking Haley for her. This wasn't a single gaffe. He repeated her name 6 times. Also, he has recently claimed to be running against Obama.
 
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GoPackGo

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I think what little there was already leaked out.


Three times he says that Haley was "in charge of security" on 1/6, when she had no post in DC at the time. He was confusing her with Nancy Pelosi, attempting to repeat his crackpot theory that Pelosi was in charge, but mistaking Haley for her. This wasn't a single gaffe. He repeated her name 6 times. Also, he has recently claimed to be running against Obama.
That's what Haley wants you to think.
 

RnR_au

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When Trump retires from politics, which one of his kids will keep the Trump dream of a greater America alive on the political stage?
 

manly

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When Trump retires from politics, which one of his kids will keep the Trump dream of a greater America alive on the political stage?
His adult sons are morons, and Ivanka is even more of a RINO than he is. She seems content to spend their Saudi and Chinese "earned" moneys, so perhaps Barron has the brightest political future of the lot?
 
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RnR_au

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His adult sons are morons, and Ivanka is even more of a RINO than he is. She seems content to spend their Saudi and Chinese "earned" moneys, so perhaps Barron has the brightest political future of the lot?
I don't know the Trump family that well, but I was thinking it might be a good Democrat move to somehow encourage the Trump dynasty to keep their hand in politics to keep the Republicans fractured between the faithful MAGA and the moderate Reagan Republicans.

Had crappy sleep so I'm being very cynical today :/
 

eelw

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I don't know the Trump family that well, but I was thinking it might be a good Democrat move to somehow encourage the Trump dynasty to keep their hand in politics to keep the Republicans fractured between the faithful MAGA and the moderate Reagan Republicans.

Had crappy sleep so I'm being very cynical today :/
But as much as we hate him, none of his family has the same flare. Junior mint would fall flat on his face if he attempted to run.
 
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manly

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I don't know the Trump family that well, but I was thinking it might be a good Democrat move to somehow encourage the Trump dynasty to keep their hand in politics to keep the Republicans fractured between the faithful MAGA and the moderate Reagan Republicans.

Had crappy sleep so I'm being very cynical today :/
Trumpism is a cancer so Democrats should never encourage anything to do with it. Even if you buy into the notion that Donald Trump sucks at general elections, the downside of a second Trump term is so frightening that all good Americans must view this as an existential fight for democracy. It's not hyperbole when never Trumper Republicans say that we can survive another Biden term, but the great American experiment may not survive another Trump term.

But as @eelw mentioned, it doesn't appear that any of the Trump kids has much political talent to fear.
 

RnR_au

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...so perhaps Barron has the brightest political future of the lot?
You might be onto something here... "Barron is a fan of soccer." Erdogan, the Turkish President/despot, used to play semi-pro soccer...

And Barron seems taller than his father, without the use of heels.

But as much as we hate him, none of his family has the same flare. Junior mint would fall flat on his face if he attempted to run.
You can't be trained to ramble and hold a bible up the wrong way?

I'm being cheeky ofcause... just wondering out aloud if there is anyone that could pick up the MAGA folk after Trump has shown himself to be a spent force. Trump vacating the political environment would lead to a power vacuum. Its not hard to imagine someone behind the scene's trying to encourage one of the Trump family to pick the MAGA folk up and keep the grift going.
 

eelw

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Thought the Iowa MAGAtards were delusional with 2/3rd thinking Biden didn’t win. 80% in NH > _ <
 

UNCjigga

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Seems like a near 50/50 split between registered Republicans and Independents in this GOP primary—curious to see who gets the “independents” (are they ultra-MAGA or centrist?)
 

RnR_au

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Good. Hope she can increase her vote in the coming weeks and months.
 

woolfe9998

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Which means squat. When it comes to the general, those same voters will pick the orange monkey over Biden

Right, but it's good for the GOP primary to continue. Because Trump has to spend campaign funds on it, and he has to do some campaigning, and balance that with dealing with all his legal troubles. I hope she stays a good while. If nothing else, it should at least marginally increase his chance of having a heart attack over the next six months.
 

RnR_au

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Which means squat. When it comes to the general, those same voters will pick the orange monkey over Biden
Maybe. Maybe not. Is there a chance that some moderate Republicans will just stay home rather than vote for either Trump or Biden?

Haley's support in NH and even Ohio signifies to me that there is a large rump of rational Republicans who are actively looking for a different leadership. And who knows, maybe this rump will have a higher turn out in the next few rounds after they have seen Haley's performance today.

I don't have any skin in the game. I'm only following this closely because I don't trust Trump on Ukraine, but Haley has at least stated some nice sentiments in supporting Ukraine.
 

K1052

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She's not likely to win unless Trump has a major medical problem before the convention. It is going to drive him batty however if she stays in and keeps attacking him on his mental capacity. Something the national press has finally started to actually cover in a way that's going to give the slice of America that we need to abandon him a lot of concern.
 

MrSquished

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She's not likely to win unless Trump has a major medical problem before the convention. It is going to drive him batty however if she stays in and keeps attacking him on his mental capacity. Something the national press has finally started to actually cover in a way that's going to give the slice of America that we need to abandon him a lot of concern.
This is the wild card. He is losing it fast at this pace. He will have to slow down and minimize exposure. This is why it was never 100% sure Trump would make it to the general without being seriously gimped - health and/or legal problems.

What will the MAGA party do then?
 

K1052

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Nice to see that Trump is as gracious in victory as he is in defeat lol. She’s going to drive him insane and maybe that’s the goal now.
 
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Zorba

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Right, but it's good for the GOP primary to continue. Because Trump has to spend campaign funds on it, and he has to do some campaigning, and balance that with dealing with all his legal troubles. I hope she stays a good while. If nothing else, it should at least marginally increase his chance of having a heart attack over the next six months.
Yeah, I can't stand her, but I'm thinking maybe a send a few bucks her way. Trump losing half of republican voters is not going to help him.
 
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