Trump yet again credibly accused of rape

[HomerJS]

I have a thread that asks is Trump evil. This should be one more notch on the "yes" side.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There is no statute of limitations for rape in New York.

Regardless, this is now the 19th woman to come forward with credible allegations of sexual assault, the type of behavior Trump himself is on video bragging about.

Whether or not the state could secure a conviction against him for any specific act the evidence that the president is a sexual predator is overwhelming. It is certainly sufficient for removal from office.

There's sufficient justification for impeachment which seems less likely as time goes on but we're supposed to not hold those responsible to account lest we be bothsiders

 

[Moonbeam]

I have a thread that asks is Trump evil. This should be one more notch on the "yes" side.

A man who would rape a woman would rape anything including his country. A lot of people would call both pretty evil.

 

[Greenman]

Will of the people isn't there yet. Still not a majority in favor of impeachment

Will of the people doesn't matter, it's not in there hands.

 

[soundforbjt]

Will of the people doesn't matter, it's not in there hands.

Wrong, it is in their hands. If the People were outraged enough to start demanding their Republican Senators to vote to convict Trump or face losing their job, they'd vote to convict.

 

[Greenman]

Wrong, it is in their hands. If the People were outraged enough to start demanding their Republican Senators to vote to convict Trump or face losing their job, they'd vote to convict.

So the proper and legal action isn't carried out until the desired outcome is guaranteed. That's it, that's what the democrats want to hang their hat on? Right, wrong, evidence, or the lack there of doesn't matter. It's all about establishing that they can get a conviction before the process starts?
Tell me again why the democrats are better than the Republicans.

 

[TheVrolok]

So the proper and legal action isn't carried out until the desired outcome is guaranteed. That's it, that's what the democrats want to hang their hat on? Right, wrong, evidence, or the lack there of doesn't matter. It's all about establishing that they can get a conviction before the process starts?
Tell me again why the democrats are better than the Republicans.

While I don't agree with that they should not being proceedings, this is essentially how the entire legal system works. You think prosecutors frequently take cases where they are sure they can't secure a conviction?

 

[fskimospy]

So the proper and legal action isn't carried out until the desired outcome is guaranteed. That's it, that's what the democrats want to hang their hat on? Right, wrong, evidence, or the lack there of doesn't matter. It's all about establishing that they can get a conviction before the process starts?
Tell me again why the democrats are better than the Republicans.

While I agree that they should start the process it should be pretty easy to see how democrats are better than republicans as republicans are protecting a serial sex offender.

 

[Greenman]

Just found an interview transcript. It appears to be legitimate, though it's so bizarre I have trouble believing it.
MSNBC HOST : Would you consider bringing a rape charge against Donald Trump?" E. JEAN CARROLL: : NO MSNBC HOST : Why ? E. JEAN CARROLL: I find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock ...

So there it is. She doesn't want to charge Trump because that would be disrespectful to the women in the concentration/rape camps. While I'm not able to follow the logic of how one affects the other, I'll accept her dismissal of the alleged crime because it would be disrespectful to other alleged rape victims to charge him.

I know most of you will hate me for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's my opinion that the entire affair is a publicity stunt. She should go on a book signing tour with Jussie Smollet after he writes his "how it really happened" story.

 

[fskimospy]

Just found an interview transcript. It appears to be legitimate, though it's so bizarre I have trouble believing it.
MSNBC HOST : Would you consider bringing a rape charge against Donald Trump?" E. JEAN CARROLL: : NO MSNBC HOST : Why ? E. JEAN CARROLL: I find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock ...

So there it is. She doesn't want to charge Trump because that would be disrespectful to the women in the concentration/rape camps. While I'm not able to follow the logic of how one affects the other, I'll accept her dismissal of the alleged crime because it would be disrespectful to other alleged rape victims to charge him.

I know most of you will hate me for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's my opinion that the entire affair is a publicity stunt. She should go on a book signing tour with Jussie Smollet after he writes his "how it really happened" story.

So to be clear you believe she told two of her friends about this rape 25 years ago in order to stage a publicity stunt decades later?

Or are you saying this is a conspiracy to defame Trump by three separate individuals simultaneously?

None of that makes any sense. Where did you get this crazy conspiracy theory?

 

[feralkid]

Will of the people doesn't matter, it's not in there hands.

"Their" not "there" you dumbass.

 

[fskimospy]

I wonder what is more likely, that Trump behaved in a manner consistent with what he bragged about doing on tape and what eighteen other women have publicly accused him of doing or if we are just finally seeing the payoff of a multi-decade conspiracy by an opinion columnist, determined to take down Donald Trump.

The reason she wouldn’t press charges is that she would lose in court. There’s no way there’s evidence beyond a reasonable doubt in this case. Did he do it though? The most likely answer is yes.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Let's look at it from a different perspective. We had all better hope it isn't true. Think of what that's going to look like.

 

[fskimospy]

Let's look at it from a different perspective. We had all better hope it isn't true. Think of what that's going to look like.

Is it really logical to think that nineteen different people are all making up lies of varying intensity about Trump’s record of sexual assault, especially considering he’s on tape bragging about doing exactly that?

 

[ImpulsE69]

Is it really logical to think that nineteen different people are all making up lies of varying intensity about Trump’s record of sexual assault, especially considering he’s on tape bragging about doing exactly that?

Given who it is? Yes. I know we all hate him, but...

But then..who would have thunk Bill Cosby..so yea I definitely see your point.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Just found an interview transcript. It appears to be legitimate, though it's so bizarre I have trouble believing it.
MSNBC HOST : Would you consider bringing a rape charge against Donald Trump?" E. JEAN CARROLL: : NO MSNBC HOST : Why ? E. JEAN CARROLL: I find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock ...

So there it is. She doesn't want to charge Trump because that would be disrespectful to the women in the concentration/rape camps. While I'm not able to follow the logic of how one affects the other, I'll accept her dismissal of the alleged crime because it would be disrespectful to other alleged rape victims to charge him.

I know most of you will hate me for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's my opinion that the entire affair is a publicity stunt. She should go on a book signing tour with Jussie Smollet after he writes his "how it really happened" story.

Jean Carroll
Jill Harth
Ivana Trump
Kristen Anderson
Lisa Boyne
Temple Taggart
Mariah Billado
Cathy Heller
Karena Virginia
Brigit Sullivan
Tasha Dixon
Natasha Stoynoff
Rachel Crooks
Mindy McGillivray
Jennifer Murphy
Jessica Drake
Ninni Laaksonen
Summer Zervos
Cassandra Searles
Alva Johnson
Juliet Huddy
Jessica Leeds

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Is it really logical to think that nineteen different people are all making up lies of varying intensity about Trump’s record of sexual assault, especially considering he’s on tape bragging about doing exactly that?

It's not like Trump could be brought up on charges if he committed a rape a day according to so some. Too bad so sad. No impeachment seems to be the Dem leadership position so a rapist in charge is what we ask for.

That's what people want or accept and that's what we'll get.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's not like Trump could be brought up on charges if he committed a rape a day according to so some. Too bad so sad. No impeachment seems to be the Dem leadership position so a rapist in charge is what we ask for.

That's what people want or accept and that's what we'll get.

Pretty much, who is gonna stop him? Not republicans, certainly, that one guy dissented and is basically ostracized. And which Dems? There's plenty that want to, but we will have to wait and see if they have any gumption for the fight they'll get.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I don't find it hard to believe a woman who reports sexual assault or rape way after the fact. Belief isn't the same as proof. I believe we have proof of the pussy grabbing proclivity of this guy.

I've seen some posts here that appear to assert that Trump's had sex with his daughter Ivanka. Where did that come from?

Because Turmp has said multiple times that he'd fuck her if she weren't his daughter. The way they act, she comes off as a 2nd wife of his, and she acts a lot like women in such a situation (i.e. she was probably groomed from birth for such a role).

 

[zinfamous]

Jean Carroll
Jill Harth
Ivana Trump
Kristen Anderson
Lisa Boyne
Temple Taggart
Mariah Billado
Cathy Heller
Karena Virginia
Brigit Sullivan
Tasha Dixon
Natasha Stoynoff
Rachel Crooks
Mindy McGillivray
Jennifer Murphy
Jessica Drake
Ninni Laaksonen
Summer Zervos
Cassandra Searles
Alva Johnson
Juliet Huddy
Jessica Leeds

I have a thread that asks is Trump evil. This should be one more notch on the "yes" side.

He really does seem to like rape!

 

[Phokus]

Trump being accused of rape probably makes him more popular with the base.

 

[JEDIYoda]

So to be clear you believe she told two of her friends about this rape 25 years ago in order to stage a publicity stunt decades later?

Or are you saying this is a conspiracy to defame Trump by three separate individuals simultaneously?

None of that makes any sense. Where did you get this crazy conspiracy theory?

You forget he has access to Trump!! Trump told him to say this......

 

[Paratus]

He really does seem to like rape!

Can’t find it right now but there’s a version where they photoshopped the sign to read GOP Tryouts... in comic sans.

 

[Moonbeam]

Just found an interview transcript. It appears to be legitimate, though it's so bizarre I have trouble believing it.
MSNBC HOST : Would you consider bringing a rape charge against Donald Trump?" E. JEAN CARROLL: : NO MSNBC HOST : Why ? E. JEAN CARROLL: I find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock ...

So there it is. She doesn't want to charge Trump because that would be disrespectful to the women in the concentration/rape camps. While I'm not able to follow the logic of how one affects the other, I'll accept her dismissal of the alleged crime because it would be disrespectful to other alleged rape victims to charge him.

I know most of you will hate me for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's my opinion that the entire affair is a publicity stunt. She should go on a book signing tour with Jussie Smollet after he writes his "how it really happened" story.

I'm going to go out on a limb here for a minute and give you some information you will consider to be madness. I am aware of things that are invisible to most people. I had an insight long ago that revealed the fundamental unity of things most people see as totally different. This happened when I died to a need for meaning. I was forced to see the truth of the very last thing I ever wanted to believe. I had to give up everything that was sacred to me.

The result was the collapse of self defense, the war I waged for the sacred came to an end. The struggle to be good in a world of evil ended. Those things do not exist. There is only the one thing left that can't be taken and it is the joy of being.

So, why do we sleep. Why are we at war with ideas that are meaningless. Why do we have faith, belief, and why do we defend. What is the deepest truth about ourselves we are so armored not to see?

Let me suggest it is that we hate ourselves, and that is is much easier to see that fact when the will to ego has come to an end. What is the issue with hating yourself if you have died to ego. It is just there and can be felt with work and dedication in say, psychotherapy.

So let's pretend that you know what I know to be the truth, that E Jean Caroll hates herself and doesn't know it. Actually, like myself and everybody else who has not uprooted all of this self have, she feels like the worst person in the world. And she was molested, what?, a couple of times before Trump. Do you know what people who hate themselves feel, and will not consciously allow themselves to know they feel when they are traumatized?

They feel it is their fault. And that is why sexual assault for anybody is so deeply traumatic. It is your very being that is told this is what you deserve and just how worthless you are. And how does Carroll handle her self image, how does she go on living, how does she hold up her head, protect her ego? She says she just goes on living not allowing the trauma to define her life and keep her from happiness. She is filled with ego pride, the self flattering knowledge that she is a survivor and to have turned in Trump then or now would reek havoc on her self image. Other women without her inner strength and emotional stability would be degraded by a cry of help from somebody with her life advantages. She suffers from a form of self contempt that can't admit her inner tragedy and the pity she deserves for the horror she went through. So keep in mind there are people beyond me who also see these kinds of things and what they may feel about somebody who can only see a desire to sell books. You may have missed something the absence of which may cause you to have no sympathy also for yourself. There only love and the state of separation from its source.

 

[Muse]

Trump being accused of rape probably makes him more popular with the base.

They're lining up wearing skirts and no underwear. Oh, then it wouldn't be rape I guess. No, Trumpee goes after the chicks who don't like him like a real rapist. I just hope that some day the obfuscation stops and the truth about this man comes out incontrovertibly.