TSA Pre-Check Rules!

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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I had 15 books that were about 300 pages each. She asked me why I had so many books and I told her I was going to teach a class in another state.

At what point do you think it was justified for her to flip through each book one page at a time from the beginning to end? Not to mention the hundreds of people in line behind me. She only stopped going page-by-page when I started complaining about her behavior.

It's a dimwit's idea of being thorough.
4,500 pages? Let's inspect each one!
 

Ruptga

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Yeah, I flew to Florida a couple months ago from San Diego. By the time we landed in Orlando and collected our rental car you would have been halfway to Phoenix.

And I would have been enjoying my ride. It's obviously not an option if time is a factor, like on a business trip, but I like to make the ride part of the vacation. I used to like flying too, and I suck it up when I have to, but it's not my first choice.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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you guys are fucking nuts if you think driving long distances is better than flying.
 

Exterous

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I'm still baffled at why a pre-check would work....
So lets say with a new ISIS recruit with a clean record sign up for a pre-check. Afterward, this person can just skip the recheck routine ??
I mean its good for 5 yrs. What if a person decide later to become a terrorist...
I maybe totally wrong here. Explain to me why the pre-check works.

Its not a free pass to bring whatever you want onto the plane. You still have your bags scanned and go through a metal detector.

First appointment avail for my global entry interview is in December.. Yikes.

Its been a few years since I did mine but they used to open up more dates\times for appointments and would have frequent cancellations so its worthwhile to check back
 
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lxskllr

No Lifer
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Its not a free pass to bring whatever you want onto the plane. You still have your bags scanned and go through a metal detector.

Then do that for everyone. It either works or it doesn't. $85 doesn't increase its effectiveness.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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Then do that for everyone. It either works or it doesn't. $85 doesn't increase its effectiveness.

it's all security theater anyway - it's just slightly more efficient security theater for those willing to pay $85.
 

Exterous

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Yeah, I flew to Florida a couple months ago from San Diego. By the time we landed in Orlando and collected our rental car you would have been halfway to Phoenix.

Google says it takes 35 hours for that drive. If your flight and getting a rental car took 17.5 hours then either there were some serious weather\mechanical issues (that are not common as shown by airline on time rates) or you did it wrong
 

dullard

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Then do that for everyone. It either works or it doesn't. $85 doesn't increase its effectiveness.
The best solution is to have everyone do the TSA Pre-Check but step up the random intensive searches. That balances (a) efficiency for passengers, (b) cost for the TSA and thus passengers, while (c) making it really difficult to get more than a single bad person on a plane.
 

Exterous

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Then do that for everyone. It either works or it doesn't. $85 doesn't increase its effectiveness.

While a agree that TSA is security theater I do think the theory behind Pre-Check makes sense. If I've had a background check done already they can more properly evaluate my level of risk compared to someone who just has a valid form of ID.
 

vi edit

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Google says it takes 35 hours for that drive. If your flight and getting a rental car took 17.5 hours then either there were some serious weather\mechanical issues (that are not common as shown by airline on time rates) or you did it wrong

I think he means that if you drove, you would only be halfway to Phoenix from San Diego in the time he got from San Diego to Orlando by plane.
 

madoka

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It's a dimwit's idea of being thorough.
4,500 pages? Let's inspect each one!

Exactly! Yet fellow nitwits defend her and think that she was just doing her job. I felt like I was living out a scene from Idiocracy.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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you guys are fucking nuts if you think driving long distances is better than flying.

lulz i agree 100%. hell i don't even want to drive 8 hours when i vacation in north carolina. if we didn't bring so much shit i'd fly instead.
 

JulesMaximus

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Google says it takes 35 hours for that drive. If your flight and getting a rental car took 17.5 hours then either there were some serious weather\mechanical issues (that are not common as shown by airline on time rates) or you did it wrong

35 hours from San Diego to Phoenix? It only takes about 6 hours to get to Phoenix from here. So, he would have been about an hour or so outside of Phoenix by the time I was picking up my rental car in FL.

I'd say it would take at least 4-5 days to drive from San Diego to Orlando.

You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to do that drive unless you were only planning on doing it once (like if you were moving there).

I think he means that if you drove, you would only be halfway to Phoenix from San Diego in the time he got from San Diego to Orlando by plane.

:thumbsup:
 

vi edit

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8 hours is about my cutoff of fly/vs drive. Particularly with kids. It's two extra tickets, a mountain of more work to schlopp their baggage around, plus waits in the airport, ect. Plus you usually have to get a rental car on the other end adding more cost on. It's not cheap.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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8 hours is about my cutoff of fly/vs drive. Particularly with kids. It's two extra tickets, a mountain of more work to schlopp their baggage around, plus waits in the airport, ect. Plus you usually have to get a rental car on the other end adding more cost on. It's not cheap.

and you make the passengers around you angry. thank you for driving your little shits.

=P
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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35 hours from San Diego to Phoenix? It only takes about 6 hours to get to Phoenix from here. So, he would have been about an hour or so outside of Phoenix by the time I was picking up my rental car in FL.

I'd say it would take at least 4-5 days to drive from San Diego to Orlando.

You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to do that drive unless you were only planning on doing it once (like if you were moving there).



:thumbsup:

You want me to actually read before replying? Sorry too busy shopping for a preschool graduation present
 

Imported

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Its been a few years since I did mine but they used to open up more dates\times for appointments and would have frequent cancellations so its worthwhile to check back

Been checking on it now and then. Just snagged a July 1st!
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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thanks asshole now I'm going to get global entry even though I've probably taken my last intl business trip in a while. JUST IN CASE.
 

Pantoot

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If you are going to get global entry and travel even a little bit, it makes sense to look into the citi prestige card. They will reimburse you $100 for the global entry fee as well as $500 ($250 each calendar year) in airline spend, which covers the $450 annual fee.

Plus you get aa lounge access and a bunch of other stuff.

Amex plat reimburses GE/Precheck as well.
 
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