Tsar Bomba (-) - The World's Most Powerful Nuclear Weapon-An app. for that!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1q0hzSnKQoE

See what it would do in your home town:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Alex Wellerstein, historian of science at the American Institute of Physics, has designed the Nukemap to show the scale of destruction nuclear weapons can cause.
The app, which uses Google Maps, allows users to choose any destination in the world and then drop a nuclear bomb of their choice on it.
Dragging the marker to London and detonating the Russian Tsar Bomba - at 100 megatons, the biggest bomb ever designed - shows just how terrifying the prospect of nuclear war would be.
A 100 megaton nuclear bomb would be equal to the effect of exploding 100milllion tons of trinitrotoluene (TNT).

 

silverpig

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Wasn't it 54 MT?

edit: ah, designed for 100 MT

Kablooie.

Crazy. Dropping a 100 MT warhead on Toronto messes up Buffalo pretty badly too.
 
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ThatsABigOne

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Wasn't it 54 MT?

edit: ah, designed for 100 MT

Kablooie.

Crazy. Dropping a 100 MT warhead on Toronto messes up Buffalo pretty badly too.

And everything else. There was so much UV radiation, that some people were affected as far as 1000km away.
 

WT

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Ya, 57 megaton is acceptable, but 100 megaton ??? Bah, that's jut overkill just to show off. Crazy Russians.
 

silverpig

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Thought the tsar bomb wasn't really made as a deployable weapon.

Not practically no. They put it in the biggest plane they had, and had to cut the bomb bay doors off so the bomb could hang out the bottom. I don't think they could have flown it all the way to the US (save Alaska) without refueling the bomber, and the thing was so slow it would have been shot out of the sky easily. Oh, and the plane likely wouldn't have made the return trip.

I suppose you COULD put it on a ship and sail it into NYC or LA harbour or something.
 

Gibsons

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Thought the tsar bomb wasn't really made as a deployable weapon.

You're right, it wasn't.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html

some highlights
The weight of this bomb - 27 tonnes - was nearly equal to the Tu-95's maximum payload, and two and a half times its normal weapon load [Zaloga 1993]. Special attachment and release hardware thus had to be developed and installed. Since the bomb's dimensions - 2 meters wide and 8 meters long - were larger than the bomb bay could accommodate part of the fuselage had to be cut away, and the bomb bay doors removed. The bomb was partially recessed in the plane, but not enclosed, with over half of it protruding in flight [Adamsky and Smirnov 1998]. A special parachute had to be developed to slow the bombs descent. The fabrication of this massive parachute disrupted the Soviet nylon hosiery industry [Reed and Kramish 1996]. Even special ground handling equipment had to be developed to lift the bomb for attaching to the aircraft.

A shock wave in air was observed at Dickson settlement at 700 km; windowpanes were partially broken to distances of 900 km. All buildings in Severny (both wooden and brick), at a distance of 55 km, were completely destroyed. In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed, and stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. The atmospheric disturbance generated by the explosion orbited the earth three times. A gigantic mushroom cloud rose as high as 64 kilometers (210,000 ft).

Despite being exploded in the atmosphere, it generated substantial seismic signals. According to a bulletin of the U.S. Geological Survey it had seismic magnitude mb = 5.0 to 5.25. The blast wave was detected circling the world.[Khalturin et al 2005]

Some time after the explosion, photographs were taken of ground zero. "The ground surface of the island has been levelled, swept and licked so that it looks like a skating rink," a witness reported. "The same goes for rocks. The snow has melted and their sides and edges are shiny. There is not a trace of unevenness in the ground.... Everything in this area has been swept clean, scoured, melted and blown away."
 

Bateluer

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Not practically no. They put it in the biggest plane they had, and had to cut the bomb bay doors off so the bomb could hang out the bottom. I don't think they could have flown it all the way to the US (save Alaska) without refueling the bomber, and the thing was so slow it would have been shot out of the sky easily. Oh, and the plane likely wouldn't have made the return trip.

I suppose you COULD put it on a ship and sail it into NYC or LA harbour or something.

Not that this would have been a concern for the Soviet military.

Edit - I also posted this site months ago. Still think its awesome though.


http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?lat=33.545&lng=-111.95999999999998&zm=3&kt=1000000000

You're gonna fry!
 
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unokitty

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Not quite on the same scale, but I've always wanted to visit the Trinity Test Site.

I understand that it opens for tours two days each year.

Though, apparently they have outlawed the removal of the green glass. (When the bomb detonated, it turned the desert sand to glass. Aapparently, early tourist would pick up the green glass fragments, place them in their pockets, and go home.)

After that, I'd drive up to the Atomic Museum in Albuquerque and pick up one of those Fat Man or Little Boy lapel pins.

Uno
 

Bateluer

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Though, apparently they have outlawed the removal of the green glass. (When the bomb detonated, it turned the desert sand to glass. Aapparently, early tourist would pick up the green glass fragments, place them in their pockets, and go home.)

Uno

Nothing like sticking radioactive residue in your pocket.

Still, would be cool to visit.
 

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iirc Tsar Bomba actually ended up something like 3x over designed yield. It ended up being so energetic that it ended up doing secondary fusion and tertiary fission on the support structures of the fission/fusion core, causing a cascading runaway reaction. Basically, it blue up far more than intended.
 

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iirc Tsar Bomba actually ended up something like 3x over designed yield. It ended up being so energetic that it ended up doing secondary fusion and tertiary fission on the support structures of the fission/fusion core, causing a cascading runaway reaction. Basically, it blue up far more than intended.

I thought it was designed 100MT but scaled back to 50MT prior to the test.
 

SunnyD

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I thought it was designed 100MT but scaled back to 50MT prior to the test.

That's what was said, but Russia never released the actual yield on it. Estimates based on the blast shockwave and seismic results have estimated it somewhere in the realm of 120-200MT on detonation.

The same thing happened with one of the US tests. I believe Castle Bravo maybe? Design yield was greatly exceeded based on unexpected secondary fission reactions.

Edit: Yep, Castle Bravo was only designed for 5MT. It's actual yield was 15MT.
 
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bfdd

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it was actually a bigger explosion than intended. the russians didn't realize they were better at making bombs than they thought.
 

Gibsons

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That's what was said, but Russia never released the actual yield on it. Estimates based on the blast shockwave and seismic results have estimated it somewhere in the realm of 120-200MT on detonation.

The same thing happened with one of the US tests. I believe Castle Bravo maybe? Design yield was greatly exceeded based on unexpected secondary fission reactions.

Click the link above - it was designed for around 100, but they made at least one of the tampers from lead instead of uranium. The official US estimate was 57Mt. Towards the end of the article it talks about how the blast was estimated, and whether it was really 57 or 50 Mt. No indication that it could've been 100 or more.

Castle Bravo went over the expected yield because they hadn't quite figured lithium out.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Castle.html

The reason for the unexpectedly high yield was due to the "tritium bonus" provided by the lithium-7 isotope which made up most of the lithium. This isotope was expected to be essentially inert, but in fact it had a substantial reaction cross section with the high energy neutrons produced by tritium-deuterium fusion. When one of these high energy neutrons collided with a lithium-7 atom, it could fragement it into a tritium and a helium atom. Tritium was the most valuable fusion fuel, being both highly reactive and causing extremely energetic fusion, so this extra source of tritium greatly increased the weapon yield.
 

Baked

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The B-61 is the perfect size for wiping San Fran off the face of Earth. With the destruction these weapons can bring, there's no point in fearing. When it happens, just close your eyes.
 

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The largest nuclear explosion ever set off (50 Mt) was the Tsar Bomba (King of Bombs), a Soviet three stage fission-fusion-fission design. It was exploded on 30 October 1961 over Novaya Zemlya at an altitude of 4000 m.

It was designed with 97% percent fission. It was designed for a fishion-fushion-fishion bomb aka the 3 stage Staged Radiation Implosion Weapons and was designed for 100megatons.

But it was designed for a 100MT but only 50MT was recorded WHY? WHY? WHY? Oh WHY?

Because plutonium-240 has a high rate of spontaneous fission which means it has the nack to start a chain reaction which reduce the weapon yield by starting it prematurely. That is why the 100 were 50 when it was tested. So using 240 you sit with a bang for buck lucky packet where the MT is I hope number rather than a reality what you would get. It is expected with cheap plutonium
 
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Bateluer

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The largest nuclear explosion ever set off (50 Mt) was the Tsar Bomba (King of Bombs), a Soviet three stage fission-fusion-fission design. It was exploded on 30 October 1961 over Novaya Zemlya at an altitude of 4000 m.

It was designed with 97% percent fission. It was designed for a fishion-fushion-fishion bomb aka the 3 stage Staged Radiation Implosion Weapons and was designed for 100megatons.

Yes, yes, we can all copy and paste from Wikipedia.


But it was designed for a 100MT but only 50MT was recorded WHY? WHY? WHY? Oh WHY?

Or, much more likely, the Russian engineers weren't complete idiots and their goal was actually to test the bomb design at 50Mt.

Because plutonium-240 has a high rate of spontaneous fission which means it has the nack to start a chain reaction which reduce the weapon yield by starting it prematurely. That is why the 100 were 50 when it was tested. So using 240 you sit with a bang for buck lucky packet where the MT is I hope number rather than a reality what you would get. It is expected with cheap plutonium

http://englishgrammar101.com/
 

corwin

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Pretty cool to see what it would look like if one went off at Fort Hood which is only about 25 miles from me...not nearly as bad as I would have thought for the common ones:\
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Yes, yes, we can all copy and paste from Wikipedia.
Wikipedia? No. I posted the link you were just too stupid not to click on it.


Or, much more likely, the Russian engineers weren't complete idiots and their goal was actually to test the bomb design at 50Mt.
You have no clue what plutonium isotopes are. That statement proofs it.



Listen, are you always this stupid or are you just making a special effort today?
 
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Bateluer

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Wikipedia? No. I posted the link you were just too stupid not to click on it.

My bad. You copy/pasted from another site, sourced from Wikipedia. Sorry for the confusion.

You have no clue what plutonium isotopes are. That statement proofs it.

Oy . . . the Russian engineers did not want it to hit 100Mt. The design could detonate to 100Mt, but they scaled it back to 50Mt, intentionally. Keep in mind, they graduated from actual universities and have real educations. Not from diploma mills, like yours.


At least my birth certificate isn't an apology letter from the Trojan Co

Sorry for making you appear foolish in the eyes of the Internet. I'll keep a more careful concern for your feelings in the future.

Edit - Burn! Quoted before the Edit.


Are you saying you live near E Cheney dr?

Google's auto location detect isn't very accurate here.
 

Gooberlx2

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At 100 megatons, Denver metro is essentially gone. Boulder is in flames. Direct destruction goes almost all the way to CO Springs and Ft. Collin.

A big problem would be the arid pine forests are nothing but tinder, so a huge swath of the front range would be an inferno; which would probably spread and destroy both CO Springs and Ft Collins.

I also wonder what the front range of the Rockies would do to the flow of destruction. Instead of the perfect circle depicted, I imagine more of an oval, longer on the north-south ends.
 
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