Tube HDTV's?

JRW

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Ive heard bad things about this TV so I personally couldnt recommend it , the picture quality is very "soft" (lacks sharpness) which pretty much ruins the HD quality on it, CNET also reviewed it and wasnt to impressed: http://reviews.cnet.com/Insignia_NS_30HTV/4505-6481_7-31871129.html

Unfortunately CRT HDTVs are starting to disappear leaving you with very little choices in this category.

The absolute best CRT currently available would be the Sony 34XBR970 but its $999: Link
CNET User comments: Link
 

XJustMeX21

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also just let me say that i have an advent 27" crt hdtv and its been wonderful for over 2 years now, i know they sell this in 27", and i believe also 32" so you may want to see if you can find one of those.

there cheap but mine has been great.
 

wazzledoozle

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Hmmm thats dissapointing. I refuse to spend >$500 on just a TV though, so looks like I'll have to wait even longer
 

mastertech01

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You would love the Sony Wega but its substantially higher, around 800-900 on sale.
 

SonicIce

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how much worse is the 970 than the 960, really?

and if they all say 1080i, how well does it resolve all of the pixels of 1280x720?
 

mastertech01

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I have a 970 and its great. 960 had super fine pitch tube which is no longer manufactured and was twice the price of 970 along with a few other needless options so the 970 with a great trinitron tube is a very good replacement. After all the original HDTV Wega was a trinitron anyway. 960 had its problems too with at SFP tube.
 

JRW

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Originally posted by: SonicIce
how much worse is the 970 than the 960, really?

and if they all say 1080i, how well does it resolve all of the pixels of 1280x720?

The 960's super fine pitch tube allows it to resolve 65% more detail than a non SFP model so 1080i material looks very sharp, Ive had my 960 for 7 months (Got mine just in time before they were discontinued) and it has by far the best CRT picture quality ive witnessed especially when viewing HD material (and Xbox 360 looks fantastic) It makes most LCD / Plasma displays look bad especially when it comes to the extremely deep black levels , Ive never seen a 970 in action so cant really say how much of a differance it makes but im sure it looks great to, Consumer Reports rated the 970's HD picture quality as "Very Good" and the 960's as "Excellent".

Heres a couple CRT rating charts from CR:

XBR960 rating: Link
XBR970 rating: Link
 

Fox5

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Insignia is the bestbuy house brand of TVs. It's a rebadged no-name TV.
As far as the cheapest TV you can get from any major manufacturer, probably philips, follow by Samsung.
http://www.outlet.philips.com/b2c_redes...BB9A6F008D00000000828BD472&shop=OUTLET
The philips outlet site has some hdtvs that are decent quality. Generally Philips are considered at the bottom of the barrel of the major manufacturers, but that's still better than a no name brand.

The televisions at the philips outlet are refurbished though, but the 30" for $344.99 (30PW8420/37B) is not a bad deal if you don't mind the lack of an HD over-the-air tuner. The 30PW9110D/37B ($435.99) is the same tv, but in black and with the tuner. The slightly more expensive 30PW9100D/37B is the same as the 9110D, but in silver. It may also have higher build quality, since the black 9110Ds were specially made for walmart and sold at a lower price originally by about $50.

I have the 9110D that I bought new from Walmart over the summer. Looks very nice, far better than any LCD TV even 3x the price that I've seen. Playing gamecube and xbox on it in progressive scan looks as good as a computer monitor. SD content quality seems fine, as does DVD playback, and HD OTA sources look fantastic. It may not compare to a Sony 960, but in general even a low end CRT HDTV looks better than LCDs at anywhere near the cost. (perhaps at any cost when viewing non-native res material)
I'd be wary of the Insignia brand though, besides not being a major brand at all, the picture quality is notably worse than Samsung or Philips when I've looked at the display models. The normal Samsung CRTs I saw at my local best buy were about $100 to $200 more than the same size philips, looked a bit better, and had less features, and the slimfits had a similar price over the Philips but looked worse.

In all though, CRTs are a dieing breed. On the market right now, the only real high quality CRTs left are the Sonys and even those aren't on par with their hey day, Samsungs mostly only have Slimfits out still, Philips are decent low end sets, and anything not brand name is crap that only exists to sell at low pries to people who care nothing about picture quality. Oh sure, Panasonics and Toshibas are still on the market, but they fall in a price range between Samsung and Sony, and there's quite a gap. (in your price range, only philips and off brands exist, and maybe the occasional samsung)

Oh, and no CRT HDTV supports 720P. All are 1080i, however they can scale 720p to 1080i fairly well, CRTs have less of a problem with non-native resolution sources than other displays do. Well, all CRTs attempt 1080i, technically not a single one can display the full resolution. The closest was the Sony 960, at something like 1400x800. Most others fall around 1000x600. Still, for CRTs the low resolution isn't as much of a problem as it is for LCDs since they don't have discrete pixels, and their color accuracy is so much better.
 

CrystalBay

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KV 34 is good for the price , but 200lbs. is to much for me. I would never buy it again . Picture quality is excellent at 720 , good blacks kinda to dark in some places, but a very good tube.
 

Peter007

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I bought a Daewood 32" TUBE HDTV for just $250 used.
Look around your local recycler. There are plenty of TUBE HDTV that is on sale now that Plasma/LCD prices have come down. I'm very happy wiht mine, but all the TUBE HDTV I'm aware off are 1080i /480p variety. There are no 720p tube I'm aware off. By the way, I LOVE THE TUBE'S BRIGHTNESS/ COLOR/ AND BLACK TONE. The LCD is always wash out, and the plasma look terrible on older DVD.
 
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