Have you actually made that recipe? I'm always skeptical about Alton Brown's recipes because they seem overly complicated and prone to failure.
Have you actually made that recipe? I'm always skeptical about Alton Brown's recipes because they seem overly complicated and prone to failure.
I agree with most of that, at least as far as the spices and fruits. They really don't add much, if anything. Where I would disagree is the sugar. ime, the brown sugar tends to help the skin caramelize (and I personally prefer dark brown sugar). Also, if you are going to cook the turkey in the oven I would add a teaspoon or so of liquid smoke to the brine since it does tend to impart a slightly smokey flavor.That one is most definitely over complicated. You can throw out pretty much any and all of the odd spices, sugars and fruits Alton uses. If you're brining a turkey you're doing it primarily for the meat to be moist and the spices/flavors don't aid that in any way. Just follow the basic brining fundamentals that Alton suggests in regards to proportions of salt and water, heating the initial salt water mix to melt the salt, and then the brining time in the ice water bath. That's all you really need. All the other stuff add if you've got it, safely ignore if you don't.
How to Brine a Turkey
Author: Savory Sweet Life
Recipe type: Main
Prep time: 5 mins
Cook time: 10 mins
Total time: 15 mins
Serves: 1 turkey
If you want a moist, flavorful turkey, brining a turkey is a great way to accomplish this. This turkey brine recipe is so easy and using the refrigerator door is a great way to prepare the turkey before Thanksgiving.
Ingredients
12 cups water, divided
1 cup kosher salt
2 cups sugar
1 cup apple cider vinegar
2 tablespoons sage
2 tablespoons thyme
2 tablespoons rosemary
1 tablespoon pepper
4 cups ice
Instructions
Bring 4 cups of water to a simmering boil. Add salt and sugar. Stir until the sugar has completely dissolved. Turn off the heat. Stir in 8 cups cold water, apple cider vinegar, sage, thyme, rosemary, pepper, and ice. The brine is ready to be used.
Remove giblets and neck from the cavity. Rinse the outside and inside of a thawed turkey. Using paper towels, pat the turkey dry. Complete submerge the turkey in a large soup pot bigger than the bird and cover with a lid. Allow the turkey to marinate for 12 hours for a small turkey (8-10 lbs) and up to a full day for a bigger bird. Rinse turkey and pat dry before adding additional seasoning, butter, or oil in preparation for roasting.
Notes
*It’s important to reiterate not to use a self basting, pre-seasoned, or kosher turkey. Otherwise the turkey will be too salty.
I used a recipe like this last year and it was by far the best turkey experience I've had. I cut back on the salt and used about 3/4 cup of adobo, an all purpose seasoning we love (which has lots of salt.)
I skinned the bird, cut the fat globs out, kept it in the garage in bucket lined with a food safe bag and with lots of ice, and brined it for 2+ days. Then cooked it in a bag in the oven.
The skin and outer fat proved not necessary with the brining and cooking in a bag - it browned very well yet was exceptionally tender.
This is kind of what I'm looking for.
I'm planning on smoking the turkey for 8hrs at 185 and then another 4 hours at about 250, so smoke flavor will not be an issue.
I'm more interested in the combinations of spices to brine the turkey and rub under the skin while smoking.
OMG save yourself the trouble and just suck on a charcoal briquette. 12 hours to smoke poultry? And you're worried about the brine?
You should be smoking for no more than 3 - 4 hours (depending on size of bird) at 325 -350. Low and slow is just going to result in a rubber chew toy.
I strongly suggest you visit virtualweberbullet.com for some guidance on prep/cook as it will be very helpful.
That one is most definitely over complicated. You can throw out pretty much any and all of the odd spices, sugars and fruits Alton uses. If you're brining a turkey you're doing it primarily for the meat to be moist and the spices/flavors don't aid that in any way. Just follow the basic brining fundamentals that Alton suggests in regards to proportions of salt and water, heating the initial salt water mix to melt the salt, and then the brining time in the ice water bath. That's all you really need. All the other stuff add if you've got it, safely ignore if you don't.
3-4 hours at 325 will not cook a 20lb bird. Hell, 3-4 hours in an oven at 450 won't cook a 20lb turkey.
With brining, I don't see why 8 hours at 185 and 4 at 275 would dry it out and make it rubbery.
I plan on using apple wood to smoke it, not charcoal.
3-4 hours at 325 will not cook a 20lb bird. Hell, 3-4 hours in an oven at 450 won't cook a 20lb turkey.
With brining, I don't see why 8 hours at 185 and 4 at 275 would dry it out and make it rubbery.
I plan on using apple wood to smoke it, not charcoal.
My friend did one in half water, half apple cider. Said it was awesome. Going to try it this year myself!
That one is most definitely over complicated. You can throw out pretty much any and all of the odd spices, sugars and fruits Alton uses. If you're brining a turkey you're doing it primarily for the meat to be moist and the spices/flavors don't aid that in any way. Just follow the basic brining fundamentals that Alton suggests in regards to proportions of salt and water, heating the initial salt water mix to melt the salt, and then the brining time in the ice water bath. That's all you really need. All the other stuff add if you've got it, safely ignore if you don't.
18lb turkey smoked yesterday; done in 4 hrs 10 min @ 320-350