Is it a fact or speculation? If I head over to a Russian based site, they have a different story. It says, the Turkish aircraft made no radio contact whatsoever and crossed into the Syrian airspace while pursuing the Russian jet.
The thing is, nor you, me or anyone else here can say how it really happened. We are just pawns in a big game.
Yup. That's how I feel about Florida.
Globalresearch (under the domain names globalresearch.ca and globalresearch.org) is the website of the Montreal-based non-profit The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) founded by Michel Chossudovsky,[2][3] a tenured professor at the University of Ottawa.[4] Weep for the future.
While many of Globalresearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian or environmental concerns, the site has a strong undercurrent of reality warping throughout its pages. Its view of science, the economy and geopolitics seems to be broadly conspiracist. It's no surprise then that the site has long become a magnet for radicals, fringe figures and whacko elements from the left in general.
Globalresearch may be best described as the moonbat equivalent to WorldNetDaily. Whenever someone makes a remarkable claim and cites Globalresearch, they are almost certainly wrong.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.caTruly remarkable articles
- North Korea, a Land of Human Achievement, Love and Joy: North Korea Celebrates 60th Anniversary of Victory[1](saved archive)
- Possible Tactical Nuclear Strike (Neutron Bomb) in Yemen?[57]
- US Training Nazis, Western Media Providing Cover[54]
Turkey supplied weapons to ISIS. US did not bomb ISIS (See how Russia effectively wiped their bases off the map in 2 weeks). SA and Qatar funded ISIS. There are many bad guys in the game.
If a US plane were shot down by Turkey, do you think FOX/CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/NYT/etc... are going to run the Turkey side of the story, or do you think they will publish whatever the White House tells them to publish?Yeah, the Russian sources are 100% legit! No seriously, the state owned/controlled Russian news services and bloggers would never spin things to there view now would they.
Apparently we have recording of the warning from the Turks, but that doesn't matter because state sponsored Russian news/blogs say so.
Brian
here's a fine example explained in some detail: U.S. Journalists Who Instantly Exonerated Their Government of the Kunduz Hospital Attack, Declaring it an Accident"
Meh. I probably care more about the Turkmen than the Turkish military. What is important to me is that the Bosphorus stays secure, and that the Kurds, Yazidi, Assyrians, and Tatars are protected and given their due sovereignty. Same with any good Turkmen, and I know there are a lot of Turkmen in Northeastern Iraq. Like I care if the Turkish government falls down right now.
Where does China stand on this?
They are as good of a source as any. Everybody lies to fit their agenda.Yeah, the Russian sources are 100% legit! No seriously, the state owned/controlled Russian news services and bloggers would never spin things to there view now would they.
Source.A Turkish jet just obtained an appointment with Russian S-400 as a live target.
Looks like it's on now, if the previous news was true. I have no idea. Too far away from all the action
Source.Some photographs published by Russia’s Ministry of Defense seem to suggest Moscow has just deployed at least one S-400 missile battery to Latakia, to protect the Russian air contingent deployed there.
Although the reports that the next-generation anti-aircraft weapon system was deployed to Syria were denied by the Russian MoD, whether the Russians have really deployed the system to protect their assets at Latakia or not is still subject to debate.
It seems like that tiny little "peninsula" of Turkey was put there for the sole purpose of causing violations of Turkish airspace.
That would have been some real forward thinking shit in 1918.
Found this today actually. And no I am not vouching for the validity of this material, but it is a possible reality, and it is something to keep in mind.
I have a $400 phone that can tell me exactly where I am at all of the time, hell I can even set "boundaries" on it and if I get close to one it will warn me. If my shitty cellphone can do that then I expect that a multi-million dollar military warplane designed for precision strikes can do the same.
Turkmen are the ones who will most likely pay the price for this. Putin and Erdogan are thugs. Erdogan just made Putin eat shit, so Putin is going to bomb Erdogan's friends and make Erdogan eat it. Turkey is pretty much asking for it by mentioning the Turkmen in their press release. Plus they blew up that helicopter, so Putin has every justification to go to town on them.