TV on a $2500 budget

ctcsoft

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Lookin for a TV but I'm not up on the latest TVs and what is a good buy.

Plasmas look nice but I would like to consider the dlps and lcd and the other slimmer projection tvs ( probably more in my price range ).

Wanting ATLEAST 42". Prefer 50-55" though.

Are EDTV plasmas any good?
 

Apex

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Everything really hinges on your viewing preferences. Each technology has its advantages and disadvantages (though people will tell you differently, thinking there's some ultimate device).

There are some great ED plasmas, and some very lousy ones.

What's your viewing distance? How's your ambieng light control? Have you had a chance to view any DLP's yet? What do you like and dislike about some of the TV's you've seen so far?
 

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Size is not everything.

1. Sharpness
2. Colour saturation
3. Contrast
4. Control
5. Overall/exterior look and feel
6. Warrantee & service.
7. Size.


I personally prefer to have all electronic equipments hidden behind a closet/cabinet/curtain, and the speakers built into the wall and hidden from the living space.
 

ctcsoft

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Originally posted by: Apex
Everything really hinges on your viewing preferences. Each technology has its advantages and disadvantages (though people will tell you differently, thinking there's some ultimate device).

There are some great ED plasmas, and some very lousy ones.

What's your viewing distance? How's your ambieng light control? Have you had a chance to view any DLP's yet? What do you like and dislike about some of the TV's you've seen so far?

Ok, well mainly I just watch DVDs, cable tv and play xbox. I haven't ever owned a hdtv set yet so I haven't been into that.

I've seen DLP tvs in best buy, sears, and circuit city. They looked good but their price was also more. I hate to spend over 2k. And 2.5k is my MAX.

I would settle for a nice 42" plasma ed or a nice SLIM rear projection HDTV.

Viewing distance varies by where you sit. 7-18 feet.

As for lighting, there is one window. Not a really bright room.

Oh I was in WalMart too and they just started to carry plasmas. AND NO. I would never buy a tv from there but I was JUST LOOKING. The ed plasma they had at 1999 looked ok but I looked at the hdtv one right below it and you could tell the difference in picture. the hdtv had a much better picture. The EDTV one at walmart was probably a crappy one. didn't even have any speakers.

 

whistleclient

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For analog TVs with 4:3 aspect ratio, the suggested viewing distance is equal to the screen size (measured diagonally in inches) multiplied by 3. For HD-capable TVs, multiply by 2-1/2.
 

Apex

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The Toshiba 52HM84 is a good 52" DLP in your price range ($2300 or so). Great contrast, high fill ratio w/ the dimple fix (HD2+ chip). It calibrates well, has a nice, reasonably glare resistant screen, and has pretty good colors.

For plasmas, there are a few choices.

As sygyzy said, the Panasonic TH-42PWD7UY is a very good ED panel under $2k. The contrast is great, the black levels are very very low, and shadow detail is awesome. The colors gradients are extremely smooth, thanks to the 10 bit processing (2048 shades of gradation through digital), giving you believable flesh tones, clouds, sky, and water. The bezel is thin and dark charcoal. Colors are very very natural, not the cartoonish "vivid" colors you get with some others.

If you have a Sam's Club near you, you may want to also look at the V.Inc 42-Inch "HD" plasma panel at about $2400. It's rated at 1000 cd/m2 brightness, and 3000:1 contrast. I have not personally seen it. If you like it, TigerDirect has the byd:sign panel for less, which I believe is based on the same glass.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...=1126076&CatId=387

7-18 feet is quite a bit of variation. At 7', a 42" panel will do. At 10', a 42" panel will probably look small.
 

Koing

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Get the 6 series 42" Panny Plasma screen.

I GURANTEE you will be IMPRESSED when you set the contrast and brightness levers so it doesn't SCORTCH your eye balls.

Koing
 

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What is the difference between HDTV and EDTV?
(i know its a stupid question, but I just started shopping for one and did't get a chence to do alot of reaserch yet)
 

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Originally posted by: shurik92
What is the difference between HDTV and EDTV?
(i know its a stupid question, but I just started shopping for one and did't get a chence to do alot of reaserch yet)
Screen resolution. EDTV resolution is perfect for current DVDs and normal TV / cable.

HDTV shows over-the-air and cable/sat HDTV programs at their true resolution, plus it future-proofs you for the Blu-Ray HD DVDs coming out in another year or two.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: shurik92
What is the difference between HDTV and EDTV?
(i know its a stupid question, but I just started shopping for one and did't get a chence to do alot of reaserch yet)

Depends on if you're talking practice or theory.

In theory, ED should be able to fully resolve 480p. 480p is 720 x 480, but it's in a 16:9 format. When you display this on a square pixel, fixed pixel device, you need 854 x 480 to fully resolve it (or 852 x 480 with 1 pixel wide column on either side ignored).

In theory, for HD, you should be able to fully resolve 720p or 1080i. Since 720p is the easier one to hit, that's the one to focus on. 720p requires 1280 x 720 pixels, 1080i requires 1920 x 1080 (though interlaced).

In practice, practically everyone fudges the numbers.

When we're talking 42" plasmas, there are no truly HD units. HD 42" plasmas are either 1024 x 768 (using rectangle 4:3 pixels), or 1024 x 1024 (using alternating light surfaces... a fancy name for a kind of interlacing).

Now, basic gradeschool math tells us that if you need 1280 pixels in width for 720p, 1024 should not be enough. Makes sense, right?

Well, manufacturers hope that customers are ignorant of this requirement.

When we talk about CRT's, things get even more fuzzy. CRT's are, for the most part, 1080i "native". However, they cannot fully resolve this. Even the best 9" CRT's can only hit 1600-1650 or so pixels in width, when perfectly calibrated. The vast majority of CRT RPTV's use 7" CRT's, which only do about 1200 pixels when perfectly calibrated (Pioneer Elite's use very good 7" CRT's which can do perhaps 1400 or so). When uncalibrated, they can only resolve much lower resolutions.

Also consider, most CRT TV's have a low bandwidth video amplifier, from 10mhz to 40mhz or so.

They also have rather coarse lenticular screens.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: Apex
The 7 series is noticably better than the 6 series, and almost the same price.

I've not seen the 7 series but I know the 6 series.

Not heard much about the 7 series but I've not been on avs for a while.

He will be happy with either.

Hopefully next year my dad will get the Pioneer 435HDE

Koing
 

jpeyton

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If you're getting a RPTV, get a Hitachi (whatver size and model fits your budget). Hitachi has been a leader in RPTVs for a while.

If you're looking at a EDTV Plasma (HDTV is out of your price range), look at Panasonic.

LCD RPTV, check out Sony and Panasonic.

DLP, I have no clue.

LCD RPTVs and DLP RPTVs, as well as EDTV Plasmas, should be at the upper limit of your budget should you find one. I know there will be a few good deals on BF, though. A good Hitachi 51" RPTV should be around $1500, and offers an excellent picture that can rival any of the newer technologies; the only downside is that it's slightly thicker.
 
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