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Notice how a conservative started the thread,
That’s news to me...
Notice how a conservative started the thread,
The girl did nothing wrong, if she wants to wear the dress then its her choice. Screw the liberals who think they can tell her what to wear. All these people offended really need to find something more productive to do in life. This cultural appropriation is just nonsense.
What a convincing argument. Changed my mind.
This is an interesting story from the NYT. It is interesting the current form was influenced by western culture, and that it has largely been replaced by western clothing.I certainly wouldn't encourage people to publicly shame her... it's more just shaking my head than anything.
This is an interesting story from the NYT. It is interesting the current form was influenced by western culture, and that it has largely been replaced by western clothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/world/asia/chinese-prom-dress.html
I think it is shameful that idiots are attacking a teenage girl that bought a dress from a store that is not offensive in any way.
Not full stop. Why is trying to look like Neil okay, but, wearing the Chinese dress not okay? If you were a Black person that was a fan of Neil, but they were only a quarter black and thus their skin was much lighter, would it be okay to darken your face? What if the goal is to simply look more like the person, is that too somehow stereotyping?
I do agree this type of thing is crap. I think it is much different than clothing or food. These are people directly trying to profit selling symbols of a culture, for the sole purpose of them being a symbol of that culture.It is a real problem, this just isn't it.
Example
https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/...ical-use-of-indigenous-cultural-heritage.html
I won't say that blackface is 100% racist every time, but I think it a very fine line. Black people do dress up as white characters/people all the time but I don't recall ever seeing any in "white face."
I'm sure he would think that a white girl dressing as Tiana or Mulan was racist, but a black or Chinese girl dressing like Cinderella isn't.
Which is ironic given the CCP describes itself as socialism with chinese characteristics
Chinese and Russian societies were socially conservative but economically leftist under communism. They are making fun of Western leftism for social reasons, not economic.
He’s not attacking he’s shaking his head
Isn't it nice to see a well though out rational point? The logic just overwhelms me!What a convincing argument. Changed my mind.
See I dont really have a problem with that either.It is a real problem, this just isn't it.
Example
https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/...ical-use-of-indigenous-cultural-heritage.html
See I dont really have a problem with that either.
Its tacky, in the same way that all those places selling cheap catholic tat outside pilgrimage places in southern Europe are tacky, but I dont see that it should involve more than a tut and a slight shake of the head.
Its certainly different to blackface, or coolie hats and fake buckteeth which are offensive and were designed to be offensive.
No Hudson's Bay Company met with the first nations band, did not reach an agreement and went ahead and used the patterns anyway in their official Olympic sweater, in an year where the first nations were being celebrated at the Olympics. I can't think of a bigger slap in the face of first nations other than the residential schools.
I guess you could say HBC stuck to its roots and screwed over the indians again.
It's been twelve years and I have not bought a single item from HBC.
Members of the Cowichan Tribes say they are no longer planning to protest during the Olympic torch relay later this week, after reaching a deal to sell their traditional sweaters at the Olympic Games.
The Vancouver Island First Nations had planned to line up along part of the torch relay route wearing their Cowichan sweaters and tuques as a sign of protest, after the Hudson's Bay Company decided to sell knock-offs of their traditional hand-knit designs as official Olympic merchandise during the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver.
But band members said they'll now wear their sweaters as a "show of pride" after a meeting with VANOC and the Bay on Tuesday.
The Cowichan Tribes general manager Ernie Elliot said they were offered a licensing deal that would allow them to sell their original designs in the First Nations Pavilion and at the Bay's flagship store in Vancouver.
No Hudson's Bay Company met with the first nations band, did not reach an agreement and went ahead and used the patterns anyway in their official Olympic sweater, in an year where the first nations were being celebrated at the Olympics. I can't think of a bigger slap in the face of first nations other than the residential schools.
It's been twelve years and I have not bought a single item from HBC.
You know, looking into this more, it looks like they reached an agreement to sell the clothing.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cowichan-tribes-reach-olympic-sweater-deal-1.830116
What I now see are articles years later like the one you posted about cultural appropriation.
Here is one take on this from China:
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...om-wins-support-china-after-internet-backlash