Personally whilst I don't think I'd have raised any trouble over it, the dress is not in good taste. I think the idea that somethings can only be said, worn, written, or sung about by specific races is not only fine but still the norm in this country. Should it be this way? I don't know, but it is.
Guy, this is the 2nd such discussion I have had with you where you cant seem to keep up. What this girl did was by definition cultural appropriation. Its a dumb idea, but it still fits the definition.
... the people who use the term SJW are overwhelmingly conservative.
Why? Unless we are talking about thigns
What position of power does a high school kid hold? Chances are the dress was made in China. Are Chinese people not allowed to sell chipao?
...so?
So......
They are probably wrong.
The people in the OP are not social justice warriors. They're assholes posting from the safety of anonymity.
SJW's go out on marches and sign petitions. Usually they're about bullshit but still, at least those people actually try to do something real.
So your response is to exhibit implicemt bias by identifying Italians by pizza and then assuming they are not upset about the appropriation of their culture.Pizza from NY is NY Pizza if it fits the rules. Nobody that is Italian is upset.
I dunno. I don't think people who are non-native american should be wearing native american headdresses. I don't think non-black people should say the N word. I don't thinks its ok to wear a red dot on your head as fashion. And so on and so on. I'm not going to say its not within your right but in my opinion these sorts of things are not in good taste and really violate basic societal norms about respecting other cultures for relatively little gain.Why? Unless we are talking about thigns
Jesus. She is white and thus holds white privilege.
I dunno. I don't think people who are non-native american should be wearing native american headdresses. I don't think non-black people should say the N word. I don't thinks its ok to wear a red dot on your head as fashion. And so on and so on. I'm not going to say its not within your right but in my opinion these sorts of things are not in good taste and really violate basic societal norms about respecting other cultures for relatively little gain.
Its a nice dress and I would never even mention it on social media. However, since we are discussing it, in my opinion it is in poor taste. Its only a hair away from wearing something you'd see pocahontas wear in a disney movie or something which I think most people would definitely say is offensive.And I agree none of those things are good. However, we are not talking about the same thing. This is a girl that picked a dress she liked. I really don't care what colour she is. Chipao is just a dress. Pretty sure it has appeared in every single major beauty pageant around the planet.
Its a nice dress and I would never even mention it on social media. However, since we are discussing it, in my opinion it is in poor taste. Its only a hair away from wearing something you'd see pocahontas wear in a disney movie or something which I think most people would definitely say is offensive.
To me its no different than her wearing a dress that's too short or showing too much up top. Her right, I support her freedom to make choices even bad ones.
So your response is to exhibit implicemt bias by identifying Italians by pizza and then assuming they are not upset about the appropriation of their culture.
You still didnt answer the question of who this high school girl should ask to seek cultural approval to wear a dress.
how so? this is not Disney. This is a girl going to prom. I don't get the outrage over a dress that has zero cultural importance. It's from 1920, not 1620. And if you want to talk about the original form which is from 1630 or so, it was a cultural domination of Han in the Qing dynasty, so a humiliation, not a point of honour.
My alternator is wearing a fedora. Whose culture and I ripping off?
Do we both agree that if she showed up dressed like pocahontas its a bit of a problem?
I think people were/are genuinely upset about the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church. I find it unlikely that OP is upset about a few idiots on twitter yelling about cultural appropriation.
If you feel like it's a good term then SJW away! And yes, it's absolutely fine to use pejorative terms about extremist groups as that's half the fun.Also, the people who use the term SJW are overwhelmingly conservative.
how is it white privilege when it is just a dress? there is no religious significance nor cultural one. This is not some corporation stealing a pattern without acknowledging nor paying for it. This is one girl picking a dress she liked.
"power dynamic in which members of a dominant culture take elements from a culture of people who have been systematically oppressed by that dominant group."
I think that has more to do with the eagle feathers that usually make up the headdress than the headdress itself since owning any eagle feathers is illegal.You can't wear indian headdress, rega dredlock hats, african american skull caps because everyone is offended about everything. It's my culture you can't have it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Thanks you for your concern, now fuck off and go away.
Do we both agree that if she showed up dressed like pocahontas its a bit of a problem?
I tend to stop listening when I hear words like "cultural appropriation."That seems to be trying to sweet it under the rug. I take it you don’t think cultural appropriation is something one should get upset about either?
Sorry, but there's a reason why people call them SJWs. Some examples...
1. Black people can't be racist because they're not "in power"
2. Cultural appropriation
3. Blacks should get big welfare checks for slavery reparations
4. Every black person killed by a cop, the cop must have had the intention to murder them
5. Inane complaints like the "wage gap" (millennial women already around ~90% even with more part-time work/less work experience, less in STEM)
6. "Check your privilege" despite color of skin having much less significance than attractiveness, IQ, personality, etc..
This is a lot of weird, poorly educated, nonsensical ranting.
You are asking two things so far as I can tell. First is why is it wrong. The second is how is it cultural appropriation. The first question has to answers, the second has one.
1st question answers.
Part 1.
My opinion is that it's not wrong. Infact, this is a good thing. A person from a different culture is wearing clothing that is styled from another culture. She has been enriched and will also spread that around.
Part 2.
From the perspective of a SJW this is bad. The reason is this.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codesw...ultural-appropriation-is-in-fact-indefensible
Asians, specifically the Chinese have been the victims of White oppression as all non-white groups have been in the past. White - oppressor wearing cloths from a group of people they have oppressed.
2nd question.
It's cultural appropriation because she is white wearing clothes from a culture that whites have oppressed.