Twitter permanently bans Gay Conservative Milo Yiannopoulos for mocking a Ghostbuster

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senseamp

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Oh, you mean like advocating for the gang rape of celebrity like Palin? Oh wait, that was not grounds enough for any action.

Does the term "double standard" mean anything to you?

Go cry a river somewhere. Milo got standard that he applied to others applied to himself.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
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It fits my world view of requiring real evidence before making statements of bias. Anecdotal evidence is by definition one person's story.

This is not "one person's story". There are many specific examples of behavior that is tolerated vs tweets that are not tolerated that cannot logically be explained in any other way. There is a double standard.
 

Vic

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Only if by "disruptive" you mean "holds a different political belief than we do". Again, it's been shown umpteen times that others don't get banned when doing far worse things than him, so the "disruptive" argument doesn't hold water. The difference is that the other "disruptive" trolls are lefties so they are tolerated. He's a righty, so they booted him.
Paranoia will destroy ya.
 

PokerGuy

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Why do you hate free enterprise?

What makes you think I don't want free enterprise? Unlike the regressive left, I'm not looking for the force of government to force everyone to agree with my view. Twitter can be as biased and hypocritical as they want.
 

fskimospy

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This is not "one person's story". There are many specific examples of behavior that is tolerated vs tweets that are not tolerated that cannot logically be explained in any other way. There is a double standard.

What is your objective basis for determining that there's a double standard? Saying 'I have five stories' instead of saying 'I have one story' is no more objective or empirical a basis for forming this opinion.

Remember all the times when conservatives claimed the media was biased against them? Endless anecdotes of media bias. Then actual research was done and it has generally found little to no bias. That should be a warning to people that taking anecdotes as facts is a bad idea.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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What makes you think I don't want free enterprise? Unlike the regressive left, I'm not looking for the force of government to force everyone to agree with my view. Twitter can be as biased and hypocritical as they want.

You want enterprise, just not free enterprise. In Milo's logic: Calling Twitter biased or hypocritical has a chilling effect on free enterprise.
 

PokerGuy

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What is your objective basis for determining that there's a double standard? Saying 'I have five stories' instead of saying 'I have one story' is no more objective or empirical a basis for forming this opinion.

If someone presents case after case that can't be logically explained in any other way, then that's sufficient to conclude that there is a double standard. Is it conclusive? No, because only twitter has all the info for a systemic review, and they aren't about to expose their own bias and hypocrisy. Duh.

Remember all the times when conservatives claimed the media was biased against them? Endless anecdotes of media bias. Then actual research was done and it has generally found little to no bias.
By "actual research" you mean "lefty groups trying to confirm their beliefs with "studies", then sure. Otherwise, no.

That should be a warning to people that taking anecdotes as facts is a bad idea.
Uh, anecdotes can very easily be facts. I think what you're trying to say is that drawing conclusion from anecdotes might be a bad idea.......
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Huh? No, only lefty idiots would adhere to that kind of logic.

Read Milo's Breitbart article I posted, where he argues that merely reporting on what someone says has a chilling effect on people saying stupid stuff, which he thinks is what the 1st Amendment is about. So reporters are to be suppressed. Well, he got a taste of his own medicine.
 

fskimospy

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If someone presents case after case that can't be logically explained in any other way, then that's sufficient to conclude that there is a double standard. Is it conclusive? No, because only twitter has all the info for a systemic review, and they aren't about to expose their own bias and hypocrisy. Duh.

So we don't know if it can be logically explained in any other way because we don't have sufficient information.

By "actual research" you mean "lefty groups trying to confirm their beliefs with "studies", then sure. Otherwise, no.

No, I mean actual empirical research. If you think all academic research is inherently biased then you're basically in a neverending positive feedback loop where no contrary information can ever be admitted. I mean if you think the media is biased and then researchers show you it isn't to which your response is they must then be biased too you've made yourself immune to facts.

Uh, anecdotes can very easily be facts. I think what you're trying to say is that drawing conclusion from anecdotes might be a bad idea.......

Yes, my mistake!
 

senseamp

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It's simple, Twitter has a right to ban this loser. If Republicans don't like it, you can get off Twitter too. Something is telling me Trump is not about to stop his verbal diarrhea there.
 

PokerGuy

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It's simple, Twitter has a right to ban this loser. If Republicans don't like it, you can get off Twitter too. Something is telling me Trump is not about to stop his verbal diarrhea there.

Hellllooooooo..... don't you get tired of battling that same strawman? Nobody has said they don't have a right to ban that loser. Can we put that one to rest already?
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Hellllooooooo..... don't you get tired of battling that same strawman? Nobody has said they don't have a right to ban that loser. Can we put that one to rest already?

Are Republicans going to get off Twitter too? I mean they have to stand up for "free speech."
 

PokerGuy

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So we don't know if it can be logically explained in any other way because we don't have sufficient information.

We have plenty of sufficient information to make that determination for those instances presented. What other logical explanation could there be for allowing advocating murder of white people, gang rape of Sarah Palin etc, while banning people for saying relatively innocuous things? I'd love to hear a logical explanation for those things.

No, I mean actual empirical research. If you think all academic research is inherently biased then you're basically in a neverending positive feedback loop where no contrary information can ever be admitted. I mean if you think the media is biased and then researchers show you it isn't to which your response is they must then be biased too you've made yourself immune to facts.

"Research" can be used to come to any conclusion you want it to. Who's doing the research? How are they doing it? Who's funding it? What is the goal? etc etc Those are all pertinent questions. I don't think all academic research is inherently biased, but I've spent enough time in academia to know that there is a very heavy general left lean, so we need to be skeptical of politically charged "research".

Not immune to facts at all, but in this case the facts are anything but clear and easily discernible on an objective basis.
 

MajinCry

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Hellllooooooo..... don't you get tired of battling that same strawman? Nobody has said they don't have a right to ban that loser. Can we put that one to rest already?

But that was your whole shtick, that banning someone for being a dick is infringing on freedom of speech.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
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Are Republicans going to get off Twitter too? I mean they have to stand up for "free speech."

I dunno, I'm not a republican. As a conservative I know I'm not welcome on twitter though, so I'll stay away. To each his own.
 

SP33Demon

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Bottom line, they booted him for being conservative and gay. This is a combination that dismantles most SJWs' arguments in a heartbeat and therefore he was a threat to their political agenda. Telling someone to suck it up =! "harrassment", not even here at AT. Twitter embarrassed itself and made Milo the martyr which is exactly what he wanted.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Bottom line, they booted him for being conservative and gay. This is a combination that dismantles most SJWs' arguments in a heartbeat and therefore he was a threat to their political agenda. Telling someone to suck it up =! "harrassment", not even here at AT. Twitter embarrassed itself and made Milo the martyr which is exactly what he wanted.

Great! He got what he wanted, and what he wanted for others. Nobody cares if he is a "martyr" to some idiots.
 

WelshBloke

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Oh, you mean like advocating for the gang rape of celebrity like Palin? Oh wait, that was not grounds enough for any action.

Does the term "double standard" mean anything to you?

I have no idea who said that but did they show up with a couple of hundred thousand followers and cause chaos?



Bottom line, they booted him for being conservative and gay.

Bottom line, they booted him for being a troll and inimical to their business.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Great! He got what he wanted, and what he wanted for others. Nobody cares if he is a "martyr" to some idiots.
Actually, the tens of articles written about twitter arbitrarily banning someone has had an effect. You must be living in a cave, you can come out anytime now.

Let's take a look at the effect on the stock price. Contary to what you idiots said, it has fallen off a cliff since banning Milo:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWR.BE

Click on the 1M chart. Notice that steep drop since 8:00am on 7/19 when Milo was banned? What was the price?

I'll tell you. It was $17.05. Today? A mere 3 days later? $14.98.

Twitter is down 12.14% since Milo was banned. Total bloodbath. Better hope someone buys out your Stalinist friends soon or they're filing for bankrutcy in the next year at this rate.
 
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