Twitter Suspends Alex Jones for One Week

greatnoob

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How about indefinitely until Jones and his retarded followers can start rubbing their collective 2 braincells together?
 

IronWing

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Twitter is like the Book of Genesis. A week is several eternities in Twitter time.
 
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This is just Twitter trying to save face after them refusing to do so when Facebook and YouTube and the others did it last week highlighted how fucking horrible their platform is because they refuse to do anything about the rampant insanity and abuse on it, and especially notable, how little they do about shitspewing hatemongers and white supremacists. But they didn't want to cave after just a day because that would've been too obvious so they just waited for the next time Jones says something crazy stupid.
 

Blackjack200

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This is just Twitter trying to save face after them refusing to do so when Facebook and YouTube and the others did it last week highlighted how fucking horrible their platform is because they refuse to do anything about the rampant insanity and abuse on it, and especially notable, how little they do about shitspewing hatemongers and white supremacists. But they didn't want to cave after just a day because that would've been too obvious so they just waited for the next time Jones says something crazy stupid.

Dorsey first refused to suspend Jones, then went on Sean fucking Hannity to talk about it. Fuck him.
 
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IJTSSG

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We absolutely must work as hard as possible to get any speech that we don't agree with squashed and hopefully outlawed. If we can't win elections and do it through legislation then we'll pressure the content providers until they do it for us.
 

ch33zw1z

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I figured you and the rest of the fascist pieces of shit around here could relate to that.

Good job!

Yup, raised christian conservative, know exactly where the fascist authoritarians are coming from.
 

cytg111

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I figured you and the rest of the fascist pieces of shit around here could relate to that.

Good job!
You are the one with the swastika tattoo on your forehead yet you are here yelling facists at everyone else but your own image? Good news, I think they can treat that with meds today.. lithium and whatnot, keeps the voices down.
 

IJTSSG

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You are the one with the swastika tattoo on your forehead yet you are here yelling facists at everyone else but your own image? Good news, I think they can treat that with meds today.. lithium and whatnot, keeps the voices down.
No swastika tattoo but thanks for making my point.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I really don't care about Jones all that much, but why should he be banned considering that Trump is much the same? That's not an argument against banning Trump because I like the idea of him incriminating himself on a routine basis.

This is not an argument in support of Jones as I think he's jumped the shark long ago. The Martians conspiring with NASA in a pedo sex ring was special.
 

Commodus

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We absolutely must work as hard as possible to get any speech that we don't agree with squashed and hopefully outlawed. If we can't win elections and do it through legislation then we'll pressure the content providers until they do it for us.

Jones purposefully riles people up to the point where they issue serious death threats. Sandy Hook victims' parents have had to move because of him. Drop the "woe to free speech" bullshit; he's just a knowingly dangerous provocateur who doesn't mind if people die because of his words.
 

Bitek

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We absolutely must work as hard as possible to get any speech that we don't agree with squashed and hopefully outlawed. If we can't win elections and do it through legislation then we'll pressure the content providers until they do it for us.


We must cry like a bitch when a public company refuses to host our offensive drivel that damages their brand and value.

If we can't create our own distribution network, we'll whine and lie as much as possible to pressure the content providers until they do it for us, for free.
 
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IJTSSG

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We must cry like a bitch when a public company refuses to host our offensive drivel that damages their brand and value.

If we can't create our own distribution network, we'll whine and lie as much as possible to pressure the content providers until they do it for us, for free.
You got the cry like a bitch part perfected. You good for anything else?

Didn't think so.

Good job!
 

Blackjack200

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When do conservatives try to silence people's opinions of the opposing views?

1. NFL player protests

2. https://www.salon.com/2018/05/01/th...-rights-new-moral-panic-is-largely-imaginary/

--snip--


Not convinced? Consider another way that free speech on campus might be threatened: terminating faculty for political speech. Are faculty whose speech is perceived to be political more likely to be fired due to criticism from the left or the right? It is an important question, one that re-entered public debate recently following a Fresno State professor’s controversial remark.

To begin to answer this question, I gathered together all cases from 2015 to 2017 involving:

  • a faculty member at an American degree-granting postsecondary nonprofit institution;
  • who was fired, forced to resign/resigned as part of a settlement, or demoted/denied promotion;
  • due to speech perceived by critics as political.
Sources included the Chronicle of Higher Education, Inside Higher Ed, AAUP, FIRE and Campus Reform. You can view the resulting dataset here.

Inevitably there were ambiguous cases. Some involved professors who resigned over withering public criticism but retained the support of their institutions (e.g., Areej Zufari at Rollins College, Dale Brigham at the University of Missouri). In others, the evidence was suggestive but ultimately too thin to establish causation (e.g., Daniel Browning at William Carey College). Such cases were excluded from the dataset. On the other hand, I chose to include deans and comparable non-faculty academics (e.g., Nicholas Christakis at Yale University, N. Bruce Duthu at Dartmouth College) on the grounds that doing so contributes to an overall assessment of the campus free speech situation.


What remains are 45 cases from 2015 to 2017 where a faculty member was fired, resigned, or demoted/denied promotion due to speech deemed by critics as political. Of these, more than half (26) occurred in 2017, the clear majority (19) being over liberal speech. This disparity persists even after removing terminations occurring in private religious institutions.



Source: The US Faculty Termination for Political Speech Database
Figure 6: Faculty termination by speech type, 2015-2017.



For liberals, the most common types of speech to result in termination were those perceived by critics as “anti-white” or “anti-Christian” (e.g., George Ciccariello-Maher, Phillip Lestman). For conservatives, they were “anti-minority” or “anti-diversity” (e.g., Susan Quade, Paul Griffiths).

These cases can be further analyzed in terms of faculty ranking, which show an especially sharp increase in 2017 in the number of terminations involving contingent faculty (e.g., adjuncts, visiting scholars, graduate student lecturers). However, due to data collection problems, this number probably significantly undercounts the phenomenon.




Source: The US Faculty Termination for Political Speech Database
Figure 7: Faculty termination by rank, 2015-2017.



Finally, most of the increase in faculty terminations is taking place at public institutions. Considering the First Amendment rights that such employees enjoy, this may be surprising. However it is important to keep in mind that public institutions also employ the vast majority of faculty. Also, note that due to categorization issues, these figures probably undercount the number of terminations at religious colleges and universities.


Source: The US Faculty Termination for Political Speech Database
Figure 8: Faculty termination by institution, 2015-2017.



There are many ways to think about this data. The most straightforwardly partisan one is to focus on the large disparity between terminations due to criticism from the right versus the left. Certainly there exists a vast infrastructure of organizations on the political right designed to monitor the academy and publicize disagreeable speech. No equivalent infrastructure exists on the left, perhaps explaining the disparity.
 

Hugo Stiglitz

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It’s really about the social media platforms coming to the realization their platforms are being exploited by bad actors of all kinds and taking a stand against it before the government steps in and cracks down.

The social media companies have to take some responsibility because the nefarious actors are detrimental to public health.

Think of it this way: if I go into a Walmart and start screaming racist and crazy shit, it shouldn’t be controversial or surprising when Walmart decides to throw my crazy ass out.

Other Walmart shoppers would expect the store managers to keep the shopping environment a safe and friendly place for the public.
 

dainthomas

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When do conservatives try to silence people's opinions of the opposing views?

Lolwat

For starters, when any black people protest. It's either too violent (OMG WHY CAN'T THEY PROTEST PEACEFULLY) or the wrong time (OMG WHY ARE THEY PROTESTING PEACEFULLY WHERE I CAN SEE THEM). And they always (intentionally) misunderstand what's being protested.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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It’s really about the social media platforms coming to the realization their platforms are being exploited by bad actors of all kinds and taking a stand against it before the government steps in and cracks down.

The social media companies have to take some responsibility because the nefarious actors are detrimental to public health.

Think of it this way: if I go into a Walmart and start screaming racist and crazy shit, it shouldn’t be controversial or surprising when Walmart decides to throw my crazy ass out.

Other Walmart shoppers would expect the store managers to keep the shopping environment a safe and friendly place for the public.

Well said. Poor Alex can go rave in a public park somewhere.
 
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zinfamous

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When do conservatives try to silence people's opinions of the opposing views?

Only those times when the First Amendment is inconveniently arrayed against their desire to only ever be fed fact-free, feels-based information of a blatantly propagandistic nature, to the very direct detriment of protections for the actual free press.
 
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