https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aclu-alex-jones-social-media-ban_us_5b7afce7e4b0a5b1febdc797
Progressives calling on social media platforms to ban Alex Jones, the conspiracy theory-peddling host of “Infowars,” should be careful what they wish for, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.
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“If [Attorney General] Jeff Sessions, for example, were deciding what’s hate speech, he would be less likely to think KKK and more likely to think [Black Lives Matter],” Wizner said. “It turns out to be an extremely subjective term.”
“I have some of the same concerns about platforms making those decisions,” he added. “Governments at least purport to be acting solely in the public interest, but platforms are making these decisions based on what’s in their financial interest. So their interest might be in avoiding controversy, but do we want the most important speech platforms in the world to avoid controversy?”
Progressives are being short-sighted if they think more censorship authority won’t come back to bite them.
Ben Wizner, director of ACLU’s Speech, Privacy and Technology Project
What’s amazing is it seems the right and left have flip flopped on free speech. The left used to oppose censorship while the right was all about it, but we’re living in an upside down world at the moment so go figure
It's amazing how you keep trying to call this "censorship" and a violation of free speech when it is neither.
The ACLU is calling it censorship. I’m not sure what else you could possibly call it, and they are waning of the dangers of it. But it’s falling on deaf ears since it’s being used against someone you don’t like. As the ACLU guy said it’s incredibly naive to think it would be used against you.
But these huge Co's, (Google, Facebook), are a big, fat, target to a lawyer who'd client just had a relative killed by some whack-job listening to fuc*-tard crying "OMG!! it's time to go to war!!". Plain and simple, remove the cancer and BTW, be aware Jone's show is nothing more than a front for him to peddle his brand of "survival" crap. You see, vitamin D from Jones is "pure" unlike what you buy elsewhere, that's why it cost's 10X as much. Jones is no dummy, he plays his retards for every penny possible.The ACLU is calling it censorship. I’m not sure what else you could possibly call it, and they are waning of the dangers of it. But it’s falling on deaf ears since it’s being used against someone you don’t like. As the ACLU guy said it’s incredibly naive to think it would be used against you.
Make a list of your last 10-20 concern threads, topics only. Is there a pattern?The ACLU is calling it censorship. I’m not sure what else you could possibly call it, and they are waning of the dangers of it. But it’s falling on deaf ears since it’s being used against someone you don’t like. As the ACLU guy said it’s incredibly naive to think it would be used against you.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aclu-alex-jones-social-media-ban_us_5b7afce7e4b0a5b1febdc797
Progressives calling on social media platforms to ban Alex Jones, the conspiracy theory-peddling host of “Infowars,” should be careful what they wish for, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.
..
“If [Attorney General] Jeff Sessions, for example, were deciding what’s hate speech, he would be less likely to think KKK and more likely to think [Black Lives Matter],” Wizner said. “It turns out to be an extremely subjective term.”
“I have some of the same concerns about platforms making those decisions,” he added. “Governments at least purport to be acting solely in the public interest, but platforms are making these decisions based on what’s in their financial interest. So their interest might be in avoiding controversy, but do we want the most important speech platforms in the world to avoid controversy?”
Progressives are being short-sighted if they think more censorship authority won’t come back to bite them.
Ben Wizner, director of ACLU’s Speech, Privacy and Technology Project
What’s amazing is it seems the right and left have flip flopped on free speech. The left used to oppose censorship while the right was all about it, but we’re living in an upside down world at the moment so go figure
How about indefinitely until Jones and his retarded followers can start rubbing their collective 2 braincells together?
Problem is he has a following... given a large segment of the population is in need of reeducation, do you want AJ to be in charge of that? I am just surprised that scientology or some other sect havent allready sunk its teeth in...Nah, He's kind of funny to listen to after a night of tequila.. I put him in the same class as those people that claim they were abducted by aliens for anal probing.
I'm all for him saying that we need to be mindful of corporate control, and I agree with him that we don't want corporations deciding what speech they'll allow, much if at all, because they've shown they prefer to speak in dollar signs. But the way he's arguing that point is just silly and ignores the actual situation so he can fearmonger about other potential situations that are not actually analogous.
So..according to our President, Alex Jones is a "prominent Republican/Conservative voice"....really?! At least he's finally admitting it.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/facebook-censorship-alex-jones-710497/
How America learned to stop worrying and put Mark Zuckerberg in charge of everything
Interesting Rolling Stone article on the matter.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/facebook-censorship-alex-jones-710497/
How America learned to stop worrying and put Mark Zuckerberg in charge of everything
Interesting Rolling Stone article on the matter.
Is Rolling Stone good as long as it isn't discussing sexual assault? I can't keep up with the list of acceptable media outlets.
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progsplaining.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?
That article fully supports the banning of Jones and plainly states that his libel and slander are not protected speech either. It goes even further than that.
You should really READ what you post before you make a fool of yourself.
Moreover, Jones probably does violate all of those platforms’ Terms of Service. I personally don’t believe his Sandy Hook rants — in which he accused grieving parents of being actors in an anti-gun conspiracy — are protected speech, at least not according to current libel and defamation law. Even some conservative speech activists seem to agree.
And yet: I didn’t celebrate when Jones was banned.
But we should care. Censorship is one of modern man’s great temptations. Giving in to it hasn’t provided many happy stories.
*puffs on pipe*concerning
I guess you’re arguing I
If that’s what you got out of the article you either are being dishonest in your reply or didn’t actually read it. The very next sentence which you omitted from your response (seems to be a recurring practice) frames the rest of the article:
No one is arguing they didn’t have the right to ban him. The arguement of the ACLU, Rolling Stone, and myself is this celebration of censorship should be concerning to any of us. It’s gone beyond something (fairly, even then tons of gray) concrete such as no pornography to something extremely ambiguous like "hate". These platforms are completely dominant in modern day life and are increasingly serving to regulate thought, nothing more Orwellian than that.
You’ve got your guy and will never admit the dangers all of this poses. Celebrate while you can, it's not a question of if it’s turned against us but when. The article which you didn’t seem to read ends it nice,y:
I know!What would you say my arguement is?
I agree to a degree.
Jones is a near idiot. Actually he may be a complete idiot, I have never heard a word of his either spoken or written for that matter. Nobody will believe that, but that doesn't matter to me in the slightest. I just wanted to get that out of the way.
In the interest of clarity, Facebook is not a private business, it's publicly traded. YT is private but is owned by Google which is again, a publicly traded corporation. These distinctions could become important in the future. Not here, in the forums, but in the real world. To embellish a bit, if Facebook is a publicly traded company and they have denied Jones access to the medium of communication they provide for so many others could there be potential consequences for their actions? If Jones is considered to be a nutcase who's denied access is righteous, what if anything should be done with Facebook granting access to "The Flat Earth Society" page on their platform? Is it a degree of crazy thing? What other factors could be in play to deny one entity and not another?
I'm sure you're smart enough to tell that I'm making a layman's case for the potential of a lawsuit or lawsuits. And I believe there will be one eventually. It may not be Jones but it will be some entity.
These entities and several more not mentioned ceased giving Jones access within hours of each other. What do you think of that? Happenstance? Something to be concerned about, nothing to be concerned about?