Two nights in jail for 'racist revving'

[Mark R]

A DRIVER spent two nights in jail after being accused of "revving his car in a racist manner".

Mechanic Ronnie Hutton, 49, yesterday described his court ordeal which finally ended when prosecutors dropped the allegation of racism.

Using an interpreter, Hana Saad, 23, said he had degraded them "maybe because we are Muslim".

Hutton said: "I've had problems with the Lotus since I bought it. I paid £15,000 for a new engine in 2003. As soon as I started the car the oil pressure light wouldn't go out. I accept I revved the engine - it's a V8 twin turbo and is noisy and frightening."

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Difficult to know what to say. The driver claims he didn't even see the couple that made the complaint.

Although perhaps not very clear in the article, is that it was a police officer who made the initial complaint of racisim, and not the allegedly offended couple.

Additional things that concern me:
1) He was held for 48 hours without charge for a non-violent offence
2) It took nearly a year before lesser charges were eventually brought (because he swore at on off-duty police officer)

 

[bullstory]

most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

You got Oil?

 

[Wheezer]

Using an interpreter, Hana Saad, 23, said he had degraded them "maybe because we are Muslim".

that is just pathetic. The poor muslim..."boo hoo...just because members of our religion are bombing the hell out of everything doesn't mean we're all bad....boo..hoo...if you look at me cross eyed I am going to assume that it is a racially motivated and derogatory gesture and I will see you in court...boo..hoo.."

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

Welcome to P&N!

It's great when new members bring their thought and insight here, otherwise our little debates grow stagnant, and are filled with useless threadcrap like:

"most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

Don't let the door hit you too hard on the way out.

 

[bullstory]

what i want to know is why didnt they sue for $114m?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: bullstory
what i want to know is why didnt they sue for $114m?

Because he accepted their coupon.

 

[bullstory]

did they spit in his coffee in the name of jihad?

 

[1EZduzit]

How do they know he wasn't showing his support by wasting his gas??

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Using an interpreter, Hana Saad, 23, said he had degraded them "maybe because we are Muslim".

that is just pathetic. The poor muslim..."boo hoo...just because members of our religion are bombing the hell out of everything doesn't mean we're all bad....boo..hoo...if you look at me cross eyed I am going to assume that it is a racially motivated and derogatory gesture and I will see you in court...boo..hoo.."

You know what's pathetic? Blaming Isam Maigel and Hana Saad for things they almost certainly had nothing to do with.

As for what really happened, witnesses claimed he was trying to intimidate them, and given that bigoted people like you seem to be the norm when it comes to Muslims lately, I can very well believe that's exactly what he was trying to do...just like I have NO problems believing you'd do the same thing in this position. Some people are just like that...

 

[imported_dna]

Racist revving? That concept is even worse than the Jesus waffles.

Seriously now, it seems like the cop was bored or something....

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna
Racist revving? That concept is even worse than the Jesus waffles.

Seriously now, it seems like the cop was bored or something....

I don't know about the local laws where this happened, but I can't quite imagine what you would get arrested for even if that's what WAS going on...revving your engine can't possibly be illegal, and I'm not sure it's overtly threatening. Being an asshole, yes, illegal, probably not.

 

[imported_dna]

Yep -- plenty of guys revv the engine, honk the horn, yell out the window, trying to get some girls attention -- and sometimes even holdup traffic.

Now, I'd like to see those jerks get some tickets, as well as those who double park :|

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: dna
Racist revving? That concept is even worse than the Jesus waffles.

Seriously now, it seems like the cop was bored or something....

I don't know about the local laws where this happened, but I can't quite imagine what you would get arrested for even if that's what WAS going on...revving your engine can't possibly be illegal, and I'm not sure it's overtly threatening. Being an asshole, yes, illegal, probably not.

No way should this guy should have spent 2 nights in jail over something so trivial as reving your engine at someone. The off duty inspector "thought" he was trying to intimidate them. I guess he can read minds?

Now if the Muslims were crossing the street in front of him and he reved the heck out of his engine then I could see it as intimidating, maybe even rascist, but that wasn't what happened here.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Using an interpreter, Hana Saad, 23, said he had degraded them "maybe because we are Muslim".

that is just pathetic. The poor muslim..."boo hoo...just because members of our religion are bombing the hell out of everything doesn't mean we're all bad....boo..hoo...if you look at me cross eyed I am going to assume that it is a racially motivated and derogatory gesture and I will see you in court...boo..hoo.."

You know what's pathetic? Blaming Isam Maigel and Hana Saad for things they almost certainly had nothing to do with.

As for what really happened, witnesses claimed he was trying to intimidate them, and given that bigoted people like you seem to be the norm when it comes to Muslims lately, I can very well believe that's exactly what he was trying to do...just like I have NO problems believing you'd do the same thing in this position. Some people are just like that...

I find you calling him a bigot offensive. Please turn yourself into the next police station and pay a fine.

Thanks.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

Most Muslim countries do not have oil as their main source of revenue.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Most Muslim countries do not have oil as their main source of revenue.

Shouldn't the comparison be the number of Muslims in countries with petroleum against number of Muslims in countries without petroleum?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Aimster
Most Muslim countries do not have oil as their main source of revenue.

Shouldn't the comparison be the number of Muslims in countries with petroleum against number of Muslims in countries without petroleum?

Pakistan: 166 Million
Turkey: 70 million
Egypt: 79 million
Indonesia: 246 million
Bangladesh: 127 Million

& of course Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, & the Northern. Africian countries.

The countries above do not rely on oil for major source of revenue.

The Muslim countries that rely on oil for revenue are Saudi Arabia (nations around it) and Iran. It pretty much stops there & maybe a couple countries in Africa.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

Welcome to P&N!

It's great when new members bring their thought and insight here, otherwise our little debates grow stagnant, and are filled with useless threadcrap like:

"most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

Don't let the door hit you too hard on the way out.

why?? its true...."most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

Welcome to P&N!

It's great when new members bring their thought and insight here, otherwise our little debates grow stagnant, and are filled with useless threadcrap like:

"most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

Don't let the door hit you too hard on the way out.

why?? its true...."most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

read above post.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: bullstory
most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil.

Welcome to P&N!

It's great when new members bring their thought and insight here, otherwise our little debates grow stagnant, and are filled with useless threadcrap like:

"most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

Don't let the door hit you too hard on the way out.

why?? its true...."most muslim countries are loser countries if you take away the oil."

And who found that oil?

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Pakistan: 166 Million
Turkey: 70 million
Egypt: 79 million
Indonesia: 246 million
Bangladesh: 127 Million

Em... Indonesia does have oil.

Here's what I got off wikipedia, basin on this map:

1. Saudi Arabia - 25
2. Iran - 69
3. Iraq - 28
4. Indonesia - 223
5. Malaysia - 27
6. Libya - 6
7. Egypt - 74
8. Sudan - 37
9. Algeria - 33
10. Kuwait - 3
11. UAE - 3
12. Qatar - 1
13. Yemen - 21
14. Oman - 3

Total: 553 Million (we can probably say ~550 to accomodate for the rounding).
Granted, some nations might not be great exporters anymore, but with what they have there are still benefitting. Also, Pakistan may not have Petroleum, but it does have other energy resources, i.e. natural gas, and in today's world it is becoming important as well.

Anyway, it seems like quite a bit of them are benefitting from having energy resources in their back yard.

 

[ayabe]

If he was trying to intimidate them he would be driving a Delorean that runs on Qurans, gimme a break.

 

[marvdmartian]

It took nearly a year before lesser charges were eventually brought (because he swore at on off-duty police officer)

Sounds like he might have given the ol' Ron White debate team response........."Well FVCK YOU!!!" :laugh:

 

[OutHouse]

im glad im not English.