TX gov Abbott to pardon man who killed BLM protester in 2020

[woolfe9998]

He's not doing this because he's shit. That's your, in my opinion, more accurate opinion of him. I believe he has entirely other motives than to admit to being shit. My view is that he believes that what makes America great is that it was conceived as a White Christian nation and that all the hog wash about it being Under God, just a pile of bull shit, he believes quite literally or at least conveniently so for his political aspirations. And I believe also that he is fully aware that the time when a majority of people who similarly believe, support, and vote that way is in the process of coming to an end. His world of elite entitlement is dying and will no longer be sustained by a democratic vote.

What this means, of course, is that only by the violence of intimidation and the destruction of the democratic voting process will his kind survive and none of those cowards will be the first to step forward to commit insurrection if they know they are going to jail.

It is imperative then, for conservative victory and the preservation of their delusional world view to have a large body of operatives willing to throw themselves as kindling of the fire and that will mean a belief they will be pardoned as valiant Christian or any other kind of soldiers. Abbott is dangerously fanatically insane and a liberal form of government is powerless to act on that fact with confidence. We will have to wait and see if the country falls and afterward who wins the the Civil War 11.

I don't think so, because I don't think people like Abbott, or other GOP leaders, personally believes in anything. It's all about his own power. You might be describing the views of the followers. The leaders are mainly cynical liars. I think Abbott is just shoring up support among the base, just like with DeSantis and all his antics in FLA. He doesn't care if the man is guilty or not. He just knows the GOP base is going to want him to pardon a guy who killed a BLM protestor.

 

[HomerJS]

I don't think so, because I don't think people like Abbott, or other GOP leaders, personally believes in anything. It's all about his own power. You might be describing the views of the followers. The leaders are mainly cynical liars. I think Abbott is just shoring up support among the base, just like with DeSantis and all his antics in FLA. He doesn't care if the man is guilty or not. He just knows the GOP base is going to want him to pardon a guy who killed a BLM protestor.

So you're saying he isn't really racist but just placating the racists?

Which is worse?

 

[woolfe9998]

So you're saying he isn't really racist but just placating the racists?

Which is worse?

Neither is worse. On the American far right, there is a symbiotic relationship between their leaders who are con men, liars and propagandists and their followers who are true believers.

Some leaders might also be racist. Donald Trump is racist. But his racism is of secondary importance to his behavior, which is entirely motivated by self-interest and specifically a desire for fame and power.

 

[Moonbeam]

You really contradicted yourself. The above is EXACTLY why he is a piece of shit.

Add the following...
Abbott: "Fuck those ni**ers, they should be picking my cotton"

I have said many times that when you approach paradox you deal with a hidden reality where insight can occur that makes possible their resolution at a higher level of undesstanding.

You believe that deeply astray people are evil when they are really ignorant of how lost they are. We do this because we are ignorant of how lost we are to believe that’s evil rather than ignorance..

To believe in evil you have to believe it exists, and you learned that by personal experience when you experienced how other people will treat you if they are triggered by your behavior.

Think of what you are up against were you to attempt to agree with this. It would mean that all your moral justifications for considering y some people good and some evil would fly out the window. But it would still be true that some are more or less aware than others.

But if you can’t face your own level of ignorance, have no idea it exists and to what extent, how can you blame others.

Remember the mote and the beam from the sermon on the mount?

Remember how are sins are forgiven.

You have been aware that you are not to judge all of your life.

But life is very cruel to any who seek to practice real virtue because you were taught that when it comes to virtue you are worthless and no child can survive that who does not build a powerful ego shell.

 

[Thump553]

Given this and TN these bozos aren't even trying to disguise their racism anymore.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't think so, because I don't think people like Abbott, or other GOP leaders, personally believes in anything. It's all about his own power. You might be describing the views of the followers. The leaders are mainly cynical liars. I think Abbott is just shoring up support among the base, just like with DeSantis and all his antics in FLA. He doesn't care if t////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////he man is guilty or not. He just knows the GOP base is going to want him to pardon a guy who killed a BLM protestor.

I am sorry if what I said was unclear. I was trying to deal with two things at once, the general conservative mindset, the one Abbott would have had before he became a politician and how people of that mindset, when they become politicians, have all the tools of basic perceptions on which cunning and manipulation can proceed.

Conservatives think in black and white, in absolutes because they fear uncertainty. This would be true of Abbott so he would be well aware of how reactive conservatives are to fear. I tied to indicate I am aware of what characterizes conservatives generally and that conservative politicians can use that for manipulation. To what extent this is a product of pure cold cunning devoid of any sympathetic belief and to what extent it is a shared belief you would have to be a mind reader to determine. I don't make that judgment beyond acknowledging its possibility. I tried to say that here:

"I believe he has entirely other motives than to admit to being shit. My view is that he believes that what makes America great is that it was conceived as a White Christian nation and that all the hog wash about it being Under God, just a pile of bull shit, he believes quite literally or at least conveniently so for his political aspirations."

The problem I have with your, what I would call assumptions of guilt based on ordinary rational assumptions, from a snake expect snake behavior for an example, is that it is based on stereotypical past behavior of how we have come to view politicians, and for liberals, especially conservative ones. If they are just seen as simply evil and self serving, however, that puts them in a convenient box, which in my opinion would amount to an example of where liberals seek to see things in black and white.

Rather than reading minds, I prefer to read feelings, to understand motivation of others via self observation. We can think a million things, but we all feel the same ways. The more insight you get into your own unconscious motivations the more you understand what others don't see. The problem is that self awareness isn't very flattering according to societal moral standards which is why we repress such awareness.

 

[Pohemi]

Not that it will affect much, but at least some are speaking against this idea.

https://www.brproud.com/news/texas-da-calls-gov-abbotts-vow-to-pardon-man-who-killed-protester-deeply-troubling/

 

[Moonbeam]

Not that it will affect much, but at least some are speaking against this idea.

https://www.brproud.com/news/texas-da-calls-gov-abbotts-vow-to-pardon-man-who-killed-protester-deeply-troubling/

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It won't make it as far as Trumps Wall though just as imbecilic.

 

[Vic]

What if the AK47 dude was raising his gun to defend himself? Who shoots first wins?

This is yet another reason why Open Carry or any Carry is stupid without any restrictions.

The person with the higher social standing (by conservative standards) wins.

 

[Leeea]

The person with the higher social standing (by conservative standards) wins.

You have the wrong.

The person who is more white.

You need to get the whiteness meter out and measure.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You have the wrong.

The person who is more white.

You need to get the whiteness meter out and measure.

I mean, that determines social standing.

 

[sandorski]

You have the wrong.

The person who is more white.

You need to get the whiteness meter out and measure.

This is where Intersectionality comes in. A White-- Conservative is better than a White++ Liberal. Also, Male better than Female. There are more.

 

[Leeea]

This is where Intersectionality comes in. A White-- Conservative is better than a White++ Liberal. Also, Male better than Female. There are more.

-blinks-
It has always been understood that a white male is more white then a white female.
and that a white slave owner is more then a white foreman, who is more white then a white laborer

there is nothing new about that.

 

[UNCjigga]

So Abbott is basically telling the pardon board to “hurry up and get it on my desk” when the murderer was literally just convicted. Isn’t there a normal appeals process first? Is he not exerting undue influence over the pardon board??

 

[MrSquished]

After all that guy is a true Republican

 

[woolfe9998]

Yes they unsealed the evidence of his social media posts.

In a Facebook message from May 2020, just weeks before the shooting, Perry told a friend he “might have to kill a few people” who were rioting outside his apartment.

The documents also contain a May 2020 text sent by Perry that said, “I might go to Dallas to shoot looters.” Some messages included “white power” memes.

Perry wrote in a 2019 message that it was “to bad we can’t get paid for hunting Muslims in Europe.”

In a social media status posted on June 1, 2020, Perry said, “It is official I am a racist because I do not agree with people acting like animals at the zoo. I was on the side of the protestors until they started with the looting and the violence,” the documents show.

A comment from the same day shows Perry compared the “black lives matter movement to a zoo full of monkeys that are freaking out flinging their sh*t,” the documents show.

In another post from May 31, 2020, Perry posted, “If this symbol represents racism in America… (shows confederate flag) SO DO THESE (shows NAACP logo, Hispanic Scholarship fund, America Association for Affirmative Action, BET, UNCP, the democratic party logo, etc,” according to the documents.

This is the guy who Abbott is SO certain acted in self-defense that he announces seeking a full pardon within a day of his conviction.

 

[Pens1566]

Yes they unsealed the evidence of his social media posts.



This is the guy who Abbott is SO certain acted in self-defense that he announces seeking a full pardon within a day of his conviction.

I didn't see the reason for the release. Was it by rule/mandatory, or did someone do this to make Abbott look like the awful bag of shit he really is?

 

[woolfe9998]

I didn't see the reason for the release. Was it by rule/mandatory, or did someone do this to make Abbott look like the awful bag of shit he really is?

I don't know for sure, but I'm wondering why the docs were sealed to begin with. Unless it is juvenile court or has to do with minors, everything in court is filed as a public record unless someone makes a motion to the court and asks that things be sealed for good particular reasons.

 

[allisolm]

After all that guy is a true Republican

Hopefully all that will be enough to get Abbott to backpedal. I guess we'll see

 

[HomerJS]

Hopefully all that will be enough to get Abbott to backpedal. I guess we'll see

That makes it more likely Abbott will pardon him.

 

[woolfe9998]

Hopefully all that will be enough to get Abbott to backpedal. I guess we'll see

Except Abbott already knew about the texts. He had to have read the court file, or at least, his aids did.

 

[HomerJS]

Except Abbott already knew about the texts. He had to have read the court file, or at least, his aids did.

He'll try anyway. Gotta keep their white hooded base happy.

 

[Pohemi]

Except Abbott already knew about the texts. He had to have read the court file, or at least, his aids did.

Yeah, I thought even if he knew about the texts, it likely wouldn't change his decision and motivation. It wouldn't dissuade him IMHO, because the headlines will still be an Army Sergeant who killed a BLM protestor (don't pay attention to them being a vet as well), which is what his constituents want to hear.

 

[brycejones]

Yeah, I thought even if he knew about the texts, it likely wouldn't change his decision and motivation. It wouldn't dissuade him IMHO, because the headlines will still be an Army Sergeant who killed a BLM protestor (don't pay attention to them being a vet as well), which is what his constituents want to hear.

Yeah, the important thing here is a Right thinking Patriotic American wanted to go all MAGA on someone supporting BLM. It's excellent virtue signaling on the part of Abbott.

 

[allisolm]

Except Abbott already knew about the texts. He had to have read the court file, or at least, his aids did.

Think about the bold part for a minute and remember who we're talking about.