U.S. military to accept transgender recruits on Monday: Pentagon

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Commodus

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Hope there's another challenge to this. It's basically an attempt to spin the original ban, and that one was shot down.
 

Sunburn74

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The eventual lost lawsuit will probably cost much way more than 8 million. When you lose you also pay the legal fees of the winning side. Sigh...
 

pcgeek11

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As in any of the medical conditions that will stop many from entering military service:

As it states:

“persons with a history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria — including individuals who the policies state may require substantial medical treatment, including medications and surgery — are disqualified from military service except under limited circumstances.”
 
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As in any of the medical conditions that will stop many from entering military service:

As it states:

“persons with a history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria — including individuals who the policies state may require substantial medical treatment, including medications and surgery — are disqualified from military service except under limited circumstances.”
May, not do. What is the measure used to make that determination? You're transgender? Oh you may need medical treatment. Cya.
 

pcgeek11

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List that may keep you out of the military. Like being too tall 80 inches or too short 60 inches for men.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html

Very long list and at the end it says:

Miscellaneous

Any condition that in the opinion of the examining medical officer will significantly interfere with the successful performance of military duty or training may be a cause for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction.

Edited out the list...
 
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ch33zw1z

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Seriously, the link alone would suffice.

And the military has accepted people that I know who should've been dq'd based in that list. It's a joke if you think they dig through that list everytime.
 

ch33zw1z

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And to address the bolded. So the horse and pony show wasn't necessary to begin with. Trump and co just wants to publicize his championed discrimination of people volunteering to serve their country. Captain bone spurs is all about the feels...hmmm, what have I heard about feels in the last couple years.
 

ch33zw1z

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Based on the bolded in your own post, it's not an opinion. The verbage has always been there to dq transgender individuals if it would be a reason that duties would not be fullfilled.

And Trump pandering to Cons his obvious. So whatever you want to tell yourself to rationalize I guess.
 

pcgeek11

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Based on the bolded in your own post, it's not an opinion. The verbage has always been there to dq transgender individuals if it would be a reason that duties would not be fullfilled.

And Trump pandering to Cons his obvious. So whatever you want to tell yourself to rationalize I guess.


Sorry, I misinterpreted your post.

The horse and pony show shouldn't be needed, but politicians are what they are.

You are correct. They should be able to refuse anyone based on the examining medical officers opinion.
 

ch33zw1z

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Sorry, I misinterpreted your post.

The horse and pony show shouldn't be needed, but politicians are what they are.

You are correct. They should be able to refuse anyone based on the examining medical officers opinion.
Yea, buts that's not good enough. We need to make sure those dirty liberals dont get to serve as volunteers.
 

pcgeek11

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Oh, you think liberals are dirty?

I think liberals should serve in the military.

Hell I think all healthy qualified individuals should serve the military. Maybe we would have less snowflakes to deal with.
 
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Oh, you think liberals are dirty?

I think liberals should serve in the military.

Hell I think all healthy qualified individuals should serve the military. Maybe we would have less snowflakes to deal with.
And currently estimates are that thousands of transgender people currently serve in the military and a very small percentage of them are considering actual reassignment surgeries. There's no reason to get rid of thousands of people serving honorably just for being transgender.
 
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pcgeek11

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And currently estimates are that thousands of transgender people currently serve in the military and a very small percentage of them are considering actual reassignment surgeries. There's no reason to get rid of thousands of people serving honorably just for being transgender.


Good for them. Taxpayers should not pay for any of those surgeries or hormones.

In my opinion they could be allowed to serve as long as they do not require any special treatment ( hormones, surgery etc... ), And their "condition" does not impact or prevent them from performing their job.

And as soon as it does, out they go.
 
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Good for them. Taxpayers should not pay for any of those surgeries or hormones.

In my opinion they could be allowed to serve as long as they do not require any special treatment ( hormones, surgery etc... ), And their "condition" does not impact or prevent them from performing their job.

And as soon as it does, out they go.

And yet the military pays almost 10 times as much for boner pills for veterans and active-service troops. But since that is viewed as an acceptable quality of life issue no one would ever suggest they be banned from service or stop paying.
 
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Amused

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I did. The military are totally justified to screen out people that are deemed not fit for service.

Your feels do not matter.

And neither do yours. Which, in this case, your opinion on the matter is all about your bad feels for icky transgendered people and thuis supporting an arbitrary ban on all, rather than a more rational case by case basis.

Why is projection such a big thing among the right-wing these days?
 
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pcgeek11

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And yet the military pays almost 10 times as much for boner pills for veterans and active-service troops. But since that is viewed as an acceptable quality of life issue no one would ever suggest they be banned from service or stop paying.


Changing the subject?

A boner pill doesn't prevent you from doing your job.
 
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