U.S. ranks just 42nd in life expectancy

[1prophet]

U.S. ranks just 42nd in life expectancy

WASHINGTON - Americans are living longer than ever, but not as long as people in 41 other countries.

For decades, the United States has been slipping in international rankings of life expectancy, as other countries improve health care, nutrition and lifestyles.

Countries that surpass the U.S. include Japan and most of Europe, as well as Jordan, Guam and the Cayman Islands.

Adults in the United States have one of the highest obesity rates in the world. Nearly a third of U.S. adults 20 years and older are obese, while about two-thirds are overweight, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.
?The U.S. has the resources that allow people to get fat and lazy,? said Paul Terry, an assistant professor of epidemiology at Emory University in Atlanta. ?We have the luxury of choosing a bad lifestyle as opposed to having one imposed on us by hard times.?
Racial disparities. Black Americans have an average life expectancy of 73.3 years, five years shorter than white Americans.
Black American males have a life expectancy of 69.8 years, slightly longer than the averages for Iran and Syria and slightly shorter than in Nicaragua and Morocco.
A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.

Murray, from the University of Washington, said improved access to health insurance could increase life expectancy. But, he predicted, the U.S. won?t move up in the world rankings as long as the health care debate is limited to insurance.

Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease, said Murray. He advocates stepped-up efforts to reduce tobacco use, control blood pressure, reduce cholesterol and regulate blood sugar.

?Even if we focused only on those four things, we would go along way toward improving health care in the United States,? Murray said. ?The starting point is the recognition that the U.S. does not have the best health care system. There are still an awful lot of people who think it does.?

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Gee wiz, our infrastructure is falling apart, our high school students are coming out dumber every year, now we find out we are number 42 in life expectancy.

Well at least our military is kicking ass and taking names, but I can't hang around here, Mcdonalds is running a special so I got to go.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: 1prophet
Topic Title: U.S. ranks just 42nd in life expectancy
Topic Summary: Lack of insurance, obesity, racial disparities to blame, experts say

Gee wiz, our infrastructure is falling apart, our high school students are coming out dumber every year, now we find out we are number 42 in life expectancy.

Well at least our military is kicking ass and taking names, but I can't hang around here, Mcdonalds is running a special so I got to go.

What did you expect with only the rich able to get Medical care???

Of course this is by design, less people on Social Security.

U.S. domestic policy on population control is working like a champ.

 

[blackangst1]

I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave. If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare. If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare. Im one who believes it is MY responsibility to provide what my family needs, not my government. Unlike you, who expect our government to provide everything and leave no responsibility to the people. Its the fundamental difference between a capitalist and a socialist.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave.

If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare.

If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

Really?

Can you prove this?

My wife worked at convenience store similar to 7-11 and there was no way she could get health care.

Where's your proof of this magic?

 

[Mxylplyx]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Heres my explanation...Maybe not everyone is a natural born loser like you Dave??

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave.

If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare.

If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

Really?

Can you prove this?

My wife worked at convenience store similar to 7-11 and there was no way she could get health care.

Where's your proof of this magic?

Sure I can. My friend in Tennessee works at both those restaurants 30 hours/week and gets healthcare. How about calling them and asking? Unless you expect me to call my friend, have him make certified copies of his healthcare cards, and provide a phone number so you can verify employment? And then what? You'll quit ranting? Please.

also, did I say every convenience store? No, I didnt. I said 7-11.

 

[StageLeft]

How can a person say that obesity is in great part to blame and then also that the life expectancy won't get better until ONLY the health care debate is sorted out?

Americans are fat not because of poor access to health care but in spite of good access to it. Plenty of rich people with the best insurance are eating their indolent, high blood pressure, disgustingly unhealthy husks to death. Americans' life expectancy is the fault of each and every american who does not take care of himself--and that's most of them, to varying degrees.

FACT: Most people who lack healthcare are overweight, and many of them are obese. If they are truly interested in longevity, why don't they stop bitching about their health insurance and aim to fit in jeans that don't take 30 lbs of material to make? Nothing is more despicable than an ostensible adult whining about poor health care when he does nothing proactive to increase his longevity and overeats, undermoves, overconsumes booze/tobacco. Why are these slugs not called out more often on their poor choices?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave. If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare. If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare. Im one who believes it is MY responsibility to provide what my family needs, not my government. Unlike you, who expect our government to provide everything and leave no responsibility to the people. Its the fundamental difference between a capitalist and a socialist.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

You only believe it's your responsibility because you were able to do it, had you had to work at Wal-Mart instead of 7-11, you might have a different viewpoint of the issue. I have a hard time believing that the millions of Americans without healthcare are just too lazy to fill out an application at the local 7-11. Your pontification about "socialism" makes little sense, because we DON'T have universal healthcare right now...do you think people without healthcare are intentionally avoiding getting it to make the argument in favor of universal healthcare better?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave.

If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare.

If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

Really?

Can you prove this?

My wife worked at convenience store similar to 7-11 and there was no way she could get health care.

Where's your proof of this magic?

Sure I can. My friend in Tennessee works at both those restaurants 30 hours/week and gets healthcare. How about calling them and asking? Unless you expect me to call my friend, have him make certified copies of his healthcare cards, and provide a phone number so you can verify employment? And then what? You'll quit ranting? Please.

also, did I say every convenience store? No, I didnt. I said 7-11.

Very suspect.

He works at both restuarants?

How does he get enough hours at either one to be qualified for health insurance under either company plan???

Yes, especially now you should at least post credible links to each companyshowing how your friend qualifys.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

You only believe it's your responsibility because you were able to do it, had you had to work at Wal-Mart instead of 7-11, you might have a different viewpoint of the issue. I have a hard time believing that the millions of Americans without healthcare are just too lazy to fill out an application at the local 7-11. Your pontification about "socialism" makes little sense, because we DON'T have universal healthcare right now...do you think people without healthcare are intentionally avoiding getting it to make the argument in favor of universal healthcare better?

Many are offered it but don't do it because of the cost, but plenty of uninsured could sign up for work insurance if they went with a smaller paycheck. I'm sure a lot of these people do spend money elsewhere, like on food and cars and entertainment at the expense of their healthcare. I have never seen a number on the people who truly cannot get healthcare if they prioritize it properly.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave. If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare. If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare. Im one who believes it is MY responsibility to provide what my family needs, not my government. Unlike you, who expect our government to provide everything and leave no responsibility to the people. Its the fundamental difference between a capitalist and a socialist.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

You only believe it's your responsibility because you were able to do it, had you had to work at Wal-Mart instead of 7-11, you might have a different viewpoint of the issue. I have a hard time believing that the millions of Americans without healthcare are just too lazy to fill out an application at the local 7-11. Your pontification about "socialism" makes little sense, because we DON'T have universal healthcare right now...do you think people without healthcare are intentionally avoiding getting it to make the argument in favor of universal healthcare better?

Not at all. That being said, I also dont think people without healthcare dont out of their way to imporve their situation either. Of course there are exceptions, but the exception makes the rule.

What is the purpose of healthcare anyway? To keep us healthy when we're not? Then, as Skoorb has said, why dont poeple without healthcare make efforts to improve their lifestyle? It's the same reason they dont find solutions to their not-having-healthcare problem: theyre lazy.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
I seriously doubt insurance is a reason. It is well documented those who live a healthy lifestyle outlive those who dont. Americans are just too lazy, as the article points out. I'd love to see the healthcare situation in the top 10 countires.

Oh and Dave...when I lived in OK I had healthcare and I was 16% above the poverty line. How do you explain that?

You were 16% above the poverty line and had an employer that still offered health benefits?

I don't know, you tell me how you are able to pull that off when 40+ million Americans aren't able to.

Nothing to pull of Dave.

If you wait tables at The Outback or Olive Garden, you can get healthcare.

If you work at 7-11 you can get healthcare.

Another explaination is that youre a troll.

Really?

Can you prove this?

My wife worked at convenience store similar to 7-11 and there was no way she could get health care.

Where's your proof of this magic?

Sure I can. My friend in Tennessee works at both those restaurants 30 hours/week and gets healthcare. How about calling them and asking? Unless you expect me to call my friend, have him make certified copies of his healthcare cards, and provide a phone number so you can verify employment? And then what? You'll quit ranting? Please.

also, did I say every convenience store? No, I didnt. I said 7-11.

Very suspect.

He works at both restuarants?

How does he get enough hours at either one to be qualified for health insurance under either company plan???

Yes, especially now you should at least post credible links to each companyshowing how your friend qualifys.

Easily. 32 hours/week at each. Not too difficult....

 

[bobdelt]

Nobody can't afford to medicare but everybody seems to be able to afford to eat too much. But down the hamburger and save it for some life insurance.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Easily.

32 hours/week at each.

Not too difficult....

Like I said, low expectations for America.

So sad.

 

[keird]

7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: keird
7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

yep. And as Skoor also said, people think their money is better spent on smokes and fast food. It's no one's fault but their own.

 

[keird]

United Healthcare is used by 7-eleven. A look at their quotes for medical insurance brought up, at least, one dozen plans. They were affordable and ranged from $78 to $264. You can enter your info here for a quick quote.

$5 per pack of cigarettes x 30 days = $150.

OMG! I just solved the looming health care crisis in the United States!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: keird
7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

Nope

Just because they put that on their websites doesn't mean you can get the coverage.

They find all kinds of ways that you are not eligble and when you are allowed in cost is way too prohibitive.

Come on you guys can do better.

Lets hear from someone actually paying, what they are paying and what coverage they have.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: keird
7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

Nope

Just because they put that on their websites doesn't mean you can get the coverage.

They find all kinds of ways that you are not eligble and when you are allowed in cost is way too prohibitive.

Come on you guys can do better.

Lets hear from someone actually paying, what they are paying and what coverage they have.

There's a post above yours that gives prices, Dave.

 

[blackangst1]

32 states already provide a health insurance pool that has no pre-existing condition clause. Why are people asking for something most states already provide?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: keird
7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

Nope

Just because they put that on their websites doesn't mean you can get the coverage.

They find all kinds of ways that you are not eligble and when you are allowed in cost is way too prohibitive.
Come on you guys can do better.

Lets hear from someone actually paying, what they are paying and what coverage they have.

Nice pull-it-out-of-your-a$$ comment! 8/10!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
32 states already provide a health insurance pool that has no pre-existing condition clause. Why are people asking for something most states already provide?

Because that does not exist

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: keird
7-eleven benefits
Olive Garden benefits
Outback benefits

Looks like a health insurance option is provided at all those establishments.

Nope

Just because they put that on their websites doesn't mean you can get the coverage.

They find all kinds of ways that you are not eligble and when you are allowed in cost is way too prohibitive.
Come on you guys can do better.

Lets hear from someone actually paying, what they are paying and what coverage they have.

Nice pull-it-out-of-your-a$$ comment! 8/10!

You've posted nothing but rhetoric.

If anything you said was true there wouldn't be 40+ million people with no access no health care.