U.S. Supreme Court orders Florida hand recounts to stop

[Imported]

U.S. Supreme Court orders Florida hand recounts to stop.

CNN.com is going to have more details soon..

 

[goog40]

Whoa, thought you were joking for a second. They could have made that announcement a little bit more noticeable.

 

[Prodigy^]

geeez that court is pathetic

 

[Linh]

dang.

 

[charrison]

Yeah, US Supreme court is pathetic for upholding the law and constitituion. Something has to be done </sarcasm>

 

[Mill]

Yep, USSC jumped all over the Florida Supreme Court.

 

[Imported]

Here's a link

U.S. Supreme Court stops recount

 

[rmblam]

Spankage!

 

[KotchY]

Damn old people cant make up thier minds

 

[SJ]

Well looks like the USSC does have the balls to have a 5 to 4 split. Indeed there is a GREAT chance of a reversal. If 7 democrats can't got 7-0 why should 5 republicans and 4 democrats go 9-0?

 

[chess9]

Some legal experts said last night they didn't expect the Court to stop the recount. The said if the Court did stop the recount, they probably have the votes to overturn the Florida Supreme Court's 4-3 ruling. Gore's only hope is if the Florida Supreme Court reverses the absentee ballot case on Monday. This is the kind of time when it's nice for Republicans to have so many Republicans on the Supreme Court. It's not so nice for Democrats. Also, this is nothing more than Republican judges battling Democratic judges. No love lost between them I'm sure.

 

[Shuxclams]

<< The order was in response to an
emergency appeal by attorneys for
GOP presidential candidate George W.
Bush after Florida's high court ordered
the hand counts in the presidential
race.

The order made moot a U.S. 11th
Circuit Court of Appeals order that the
manual vote recounts could continue.

The decision by the U.S. Supreme
Court was split, 5-4.

The Bush campaign had requested an
emergency injunction to halt the
recounts, which were ordered Friday
by the Florida Supreme Court.
>>



No news really, it would be bad to have the federal courts decide any state issue in any instance. Gore has been looking like a whiner, now its Bushs turn.



SHUX

 

[SuperTool]

I don't think they should have stopped this recount. They should have let it run its course, but prevent the Fla. SC from ammending the counts with the recount results until the issue was resolved in USSC. Otherwise if in the end they do decide that recount is OK, it will have wasted valuable time and it may be too late. Which is of course what Bush wants with all these delaying tactics.

 

[Michael]

Chess9 is right on the absentee ballot cases. That is 100% a matter of Florida law. They can throw out all the votes if they want to and Bush will not have grounds to appeal.

Of course, he and his lawyer were wrong on the circuit judge ruling and the FSC has leaned towards including votes rather than excluding votes so far.

Michael

 

[SJ]

Shux, I disagree, when a state court disregards the US Consitution, which is what the FSC did(changing the rules after the fact), it is very much a federal case. I guess you were watching CNN? MSNBC and FoxNews said it was very likely that the USSC would grant a stay either be it by Kennedy alone or by all of them deciding on the issue.

I can see them throwing out the ballots in spite of them saying every vote should count. Overturning three findings of facts though, is highly weird and unheard of.

 

[SuperTool]

<< Well looks like the USSC does have the balls to have a 5 to 4 split. Indeed there is a GREAT chance of a reversal. >>


Funny you should say that. 4/9 justices don't even think this is worth hearing. So Bush will have to be 5/5 out of the remaining justices to get this reversed. While there is a chance of that it's not necessarily that GREAT. But he will probably get a stay, which could just run out the clock and leave him the winner by default.

 

[SJ]

Your point? 3 of the 7 FSC justices thought what the majority was doing was unconstitutional. Those are the breaks, if it falls down partisan lines in the USSC(5-4) so be it, if you can't get 7 democrats to go 7-0 don't expect 5 repubs and 4 dems to go 9-0. Yes it is a GREAT chance as the same 5 justices were leaning towards reversing the first decision, bu instead sent it back to the FSC which STILL hasn't updated/clearified its opinion. The only reason why they agreed to send it back was because of a 5-4 split, they didn't want to look partisan.

 

[etech]

yahoo news

The majority's order was contained in one brief paragraph. Scalia wrote an unusual accompanying statement making plain that he believes Bush had the stronger argument.

``It suffices to say that the issuance of the stay suggests that a majority of the court, while not deciding the issues presented, believe that the petitioner has a substantial probability of success,'' Scalia wrote.


In other words Scalia believes that Gov. Bush has the stronger case.

 

[chess9]

This is a serious case of warring courts. I think stopping the counts was a major mistake by the Supreme Court. The only reason to stop the counts is to give the high ground to Bush AND the Court. They don't want to rule in his favor when he is behind in the popular vote AND the Florida vote.

Tsk, tsk. Raw exercise of power, and nothing else. This really politicizes the Supreme Court and shows they will not hesitate to stoop lower than their enemy.

I now hope the Florida Supremes reverse the absentee ballot cases and shove it right back in the face of the U.S. Supreme Court. But I doubt it.

 

[Futuramatic]

From initial results in Dade County.... BUsh was GAINING votes (about +42 after 4000 votes of 9000 counted). Wow...

 

[FettsBabe]

Boy, if they do reverse that decision they are going to piss off a bunch of people, and I wouldn't want to be a democrat in that state if thats the case.

Its also the duty of the USSC to hear cases that it feels is warranted. When courts are going against state law which was mandated/set forth by the state legislature, that is a good as case as any for the USSC to hear the case and rule on it accordingly. They didn't stoop lower than an enemy. The dems have tried to get military ballots thrown out and these soldiers serve our country...so why aren't they good enough to vote and let it count? I don't think its right for a potential commander in chief to down-play the military when he should be prepared to lead those soldiers for the next four years. No wonder they voted republican.

 

[Russ]

<< This is the kind of time when it's nice for Republicans to have so many Republicans on the Supreme Court. >>



But, of course, the Micro Supremes in Florida are above this partisanship.

BTW, in case I was too subtle, the above is sarcasm.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Tiger]

The USSC doesn't issue stays on a split vote basis unless they have a majority opinion that the lower court was in error. The USSC gave the FSC a &quot;do over&quot; last week to see if they would acknowlege the plenary power given to the Florida legislature by the US constitution and Federal law. They FSC blew it. Now they're going to get overturned.

 

[Futuramatic]

I know why Gore keeps losing these lawsuits (other than the fact that the case has no merits):

Boies spends too much time on TV.

This is the best thing that can happen for hte Democrats.... Bush is gonna win on the recount (if it continues) and this way the Democrats can say that we would never know, adn that the process wasn't fair, and that Gore should have won. Basically helps the Democrats save face.

Oh, BTW, did you see he lied (again)? He told the FL SC that the under votes were segregated in all counties... only like 2 or 3 counties had them segregated. This guy fits with Gore perfectly

 

[FettsBabe]

I can't believe the FSC allowed themselves to be in a position to be overturned. Judges hate to have another court reverse their decision. Thats why there is a huge opinion page, which judges clarify their decision and even quote prior cases, if necessary. I can't believe they took that chance. Didn't they realize Bush would take it back to the USSC? Go figure!!!!!:Q