uATX w/ Delta 350 power $20 shipped @ newegg

[Sleeping]

The fan cutouts on the PSU is the same as the one on the delta site, just cant find the exact unit.

Here is a pic: link

Here is a link to CHayang line of cases: link

 

[BG4533]

I think all of Antecs PSUs are currently made by Channel Well and Heroichi, but I may be wrong.

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: froinlaven
Everybody CHYANG FUN tonight!

hahahha good one!

 

[NeoZGeo]

cool, i ordered 5 cases with 2 mid-tower and confirmation email came through. Doesn't look like a mis-print price tag, so hope it'll come through.

There are tons of cheap cases w/ cheap power, but you can't beat $20 shipped w/ a delta power.... regardless which series .

Antec did use CWT when they started off in the PSU market, but I heard they switch to delta a while ago. Of course, I can be wrong.

 

[Pothead]

it's not a misprint

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=1160217

 

[hans007]

delta makes some great power supplies.


they just arent bling bling like the majority of enthusiast ones now, they make power supplies for oems.




that case isnt particularly great for microatx, its just a microatx that uses a fullatx supply.

 

[cheapgoose]

picked up an matx and atx case.

 

[BG4533]

Originally posted by: NeoZGeo
cool, i ordered 5 cases with 2 mid-tower and confirmation email came through. Doesn't look like a mis-print price tag, so hope it'll come through.

There are tons of cheap cases w/ cheap power, but you can't beat $20 shipped w/ a delta power.... regardless which series .

Antec did use CWT when they started off in the PSU market, but I heard they switch to delta a while ago. Of course, I can be wrong.

Wrong to some extent. Channel Well does still make the Truepower line of PSUs. These are Channel Wells versions link Click on ATX. Dont know who currently makes the Smart Powers PSUs.

 

[Buz2b]

I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more.
By contrast, the 300 watt (notice the lesser rating?) Sparkle PSU (model # FSP300-60ATV) at NewEgg puts out 200 watts on the combined 3.3 & 5.0 rails. It is NOT a high priced PSU either. However, it costs more than this "deal" does. That should have been the first clue.
I guess, short of crapping on this, I just want you to take a deep breath and look at what you are praising. That PSU is not what I would trust my system with; I don't care if it was a small form factor unit or not. Delta may put out some fine PSU's but this is not one I would trust. So, if I had to replace this PSU, how good would this "deal" be?
Be gentle here, I am rather obsessive about PSU's and think it is one of the more overlooked components that there is; aside from RAM.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Buz2b
I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more.
By contrast, the 300 watt (notice the lesser rating?) Sparkle PSU (model # FSP300-60ATV) at NewEgg puts out 200 watts on the combined 3.3 & 5.0 rails. It is NOT a high priced PSU either. However, it costs more than this "deal" does. That should have been the first clue.
I guess, short of crapping on this, I just want you to take a deep breath and look at what you are praising. That PSU is not what I would trust my system with; I don't care if it was a small form factor unit or not. Delta may put out some fine PSU's but this is not one I would trust. So, if I had to replace this PSU, how good would this "deal" be?
Be gentle here, I am rather obsessive about PSU's and think it is one of the more overlooked components that there is; aside from RAM.

im sure its one of their cheaper units. it is in a $20 shipped case after all. its a decent power supply. then again i have low standards my computer is running on a powerman inwin 250 watt that probably puts out 165 on the 3.3 and 5 .

 

[ErmanC]

I apologize for thread crapping... BUT please put the subject in the Topic line... Nice find, but advertise it properly.

EDIT > Thanks for the re-title....

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Clammy3
Could you make your thread title just a little more useless?

 

[Replay]

Originally posted by: Buz2b
I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more. ....

You've got it backwards IMO. The cases may be the throwaway items here. I'm more concerned that the cases may be medium flimsy. The power supply should be head and shoulders above the PSU in ANY cheap case deal I've seen this year.

I don't think Delta makes any POS power supplies. You must have skipped past my post, which points out that the Delta GPS-350 specs are "about what a good 300W unit offers", gives the TCO info, provides a link to Delta GPS-300 specs (which look good to me), and goes on to say "Delta is usually rated conservatively, for continuous power, and likely offers much higher "peak" power than any cheap brand". PC enthusiasts that know about Delta power supplies, know Delta makes some of the best.

NEWEGG JUST RAISED MOST OF THE PRICES!!!

 

[Pothead]

as I had stated in the other thread that newegg would raise prices very soon

 

[Buz2b]

Originally posted by: Replay

Originally posted by: Buz2b
I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more. ....

You've got it backwards IMO. The cases may be the throwaway items here. I'm more concerned that the cases may be medium flimsy. The power supply should be head and shoulders above the PSU in ANY cheap case deal I've seen this year.

I don't think Delta makes any POS power supplies. You must have skipped past my post, which points out that the Delta GPS-350 specs are "about what a good 300W unit offers", gives the TCO info, provides a link to Delta GPS-300 specs (which look good to me), and goes on to say "Delta is usually rated conservatively, for continuous power, and likely offers much higher "peak" power than any cheap brand". PC enthusiasts that know about Delta power supplies, know Delta makes some of the best.

NEWEGG JUST RAISED MOST OF THE PRICES!!!

I didn't miss your earlier post. As I said, this PSU (no matter what rep Delta has) is not worth crap. As you rightfully pointed out, it has the output of a 300 watt; although I'd disagree when you said "about what a good 300 unit offers." The Sparkle 300 watt PSU has better TCO and is considered a "good 300 watt PSU." Not the greatest, but one of the better in it's price class. So, what do you get for your money here? Probably a flimsy case that needs some serious dremel work and a PSU that is probably only good for a low-end celeron system. Your choice but I'd have to pass on this "deal".


Sparkle PSU

 

[NeoZGeo]

dude... the point of this deal is inexpensive case w/ good brand name power. What ever your argument is, you can't beat the price you are paying.

The power supply you suggested is $26+ shipping, compare to a case w/ delta power for $20 shipped.

Any how, they raised price again

 

[cheapgoose]

Originally posted by: Buz2b

Originally posted by: Replay

Originally posted by: Buz2b
I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more. ....

You've got it backwards IMO. The cases may be the throwaway items here. I'm more concerned that the cases may be medium flimsy. The power supply should be head and shoulders above the PSU in ANY cheap case deal I've seen this year.

I don't think Delta makes any POS power supplies. You must have skipped past my post, which points out that the Delta GPS-350 specs are "about what a good 300W unit offers", gives the TCO info, provides a link to Delta GPS-300 specs (which look good to me), and goes on to say "Delta is usually rated conservatively, for continuous power, and likely offers much higher "peak" power than any cheap brand". PC enthusiasts that know about Delta power supplies, know Delta makes some of the best.

NEWEGG JUST RAISED MOST OF THE PRICES!!!

I didn't miss your earlier post. As I said, this PSU (no matter what rep Delta has) is not worth crap. As you rightfully pointed out, it has the output of a 300 watt; although I'd disagree when you said "about what a good 300 unit offers." The Sparkle 300 watt PSU has better TCO and is considered a "good 300 watt PSU." Not the greatest, but one of the better in it's price class. So, what do you get for your money here? Probably a flimsy case that needs some serious dremel work and a PSU that is probably only good for a low-end celeron system. Your choice but I'd have to pass on this "deal".


Sparkle PSU

I totally get what you're saying about the PS, if I was building myself a nice rig, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a true430. but I think the point of this thread is that this is a great deal for $20. Sometimes I build computers for friends and family, and they don't need a game rig, something for surfing the net or type some papers, and imho, this case is perfect for that purpose. at my local shops, a generic case + a generic PS cost at least $30. so yea, like I said, for what this case is gonna be used for, it's a great price.

 

[Lanyap]

Originally posted by: Buz2b

Originally posted by: Replay

Originally posted by: Buz2b
I read the entire thread hoping to see someone point this out but I guess I'll have to do it. Did you guys/gals not look at the pic that shows the output of this POS PSU that comes with this case???? It's a 350 watt PSU that only puts out a measly 180 watts combined on the 3.3 and 5.0 volt rails. HELLO!?!? I hope you don't plan on running anything serious with this. If so, the first thing you have to do is get a new PSU! I don't care what rep that Delta has; this unit is a POS! This is a common practice; selling crapola units with case combinations. I'm really suprised this was not discussed more. ....

You've got it backwards IMO. The cases may be the throwaway items here. I'm more concerned that the cases may be medium flimsy. The power supply should be head and shoulders above the PSU in ANY cheap case deal I've seen this year.

I don't think Delta makes any POS power supplies. You must have skipped past my post, which points out that the Delta GPS-350 specs are "about what a good 300W unit offers", gives the TCO info, provides a link to Delta GPS-300 specs (which look good to me), and goes on to say "Delta is usually rated conservatively, for continuous power, and likely offers much higher "peak" power than any cheap brand". PC enthusiasts that know about Delta power supplies, know Delta makes some of the best.

NEWEGG JUST RAISED MOST OF THE PRICES!!!

I didn't miss your earlier post. As I said, this PSU (no matter what rep Delta has) is not worth crap. As you rightfully pointed out, it has the output of a 300 watt; although I'd disagree when you said "about what a good 300 unit offers." The Sparkle 300 watt PSU has better TCO and is considered a "good 300 watt PSU." Not the greatest, but one of the better in it's price class. So, what do you get for your money here? Probably a flimsy case that needs some serious dremel work and a PSU that is probably only good for a low-end celeron system. Your choice but I'd have to pass on this "deal".


Sparkle PSU

LOL. I think folks around here sometimes put too much emphasis on power supply wattage. True, it is an important factor but design and quality components are just as important if not more so. Let me give you some examples. Remember the Dell 400SC P4 3.2GHz deals of late. Guess what, they are powered by a 250W PSU with a max of 150W on the 3.3v and 5v rails. If you look back in the deal threads you will find people adding high end video cards, high end sound cards, multiple HDs, RAID and multiple optical drives. I have not heard of these folks complaining about the PSU not working well. Another example. We have several hundred IBM Netvista workstations on my floor at work. I have a Netvista with a P4 2GHz CPU, 512MB DDR RAM, AGP and PCI video cards, two optical drives, 40GB HD, Floppy drive and onboard sound and LAN. Wanna guess what the PSU is. It's a a little Hipro 185W MicroATX with 100W max on the 3.3v and 5v rails. This PC is powered up 24x7 and I use it every day. My previous Netvista PIII 866 had a 155W MicroATX (I don't remember the 3.3v/5v output.)

All that being said, we will have to wait and see how good this case and PSU really is but from the looks of it I don't think most of us will be disappointed.

I'll bet these PSUs would have worked just fine on the ECS K7S5A version 1.

 

[Buz2b]

Guys/gals, I get the "point" of this deal. In fact I didn't mean to sound like I was crapping on it either. My point is that yes, you get a cheap case with a PS but what good is it if the PS should be replaced? Notice I said should! That's there for all those that get irritated when someone tries to give them some good advice about lower quality PSU's. And yes, I know that Delta does normally build decent PSU's but in this case (pardon the semi-intentional pun), they didn't come through. And yes, the Sparkle PSU I linked to does cost as much as this case but price wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out how a decent 300 watt PSU has better numbers than this 350 watt does; nothing more.
Anyway, I'll leave you to your hot deal here. IMO, it's not that hot but if you want to spend some time with a dremel, sell the included PS, then use that money plus a little more towards a better PSU, go for it.

 

[tryanasaurus]

Thanks! nice deal.

 

[Parasitic]

So has anybody received their orders yet?
Quickie power supply review?

 

[Pothead]

Originally posted by: Buz2b
Guys/gals, I get the "point" of this deal. In fact I didn't mean to sound like I was crapping on it either. My point is that yes, you get a cheap case with a PS but what good is it if the PS should be replaced? Notice I said should! That's there for all those that get irritated when someone tries to give them some good advice about lower quality PSU's. And yes, I know that Delta does normally build decent PSU's but in this case (pardon the semi-intentional pun), they didn't come through. And yes, the Sparkle PSU I linked to does cost as much as this case but price wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out how a decent 300 watt PSU has better numbers than this 350 watt does; nothing more.
Anyway, I'll leave you to your hot deal here. IMO, it's not that hot but if you want to spend some time with a dremel, sell the included PS, then use that money plus a little more towards a better PSU, go for it.

Some people buy these or the ones at aramax and sell the PSU for a nearly free case....and you know that this is shipped free to your door?

 

[Replay]

This was a great deal for a case which has a power supply I won't have to throw away. Actually, the Delta is worth more to me than the case.

This is a 300 watt Delta PSU, "rated(zxzx): 300W" continuous, which can provide extra power when needed. Look closely at the label.

Some, one, might say "this PSU (no matter what rep Delta has) is not worth crap". Ok, don't buy it. Plenty of us think otherwise, and like the OP, have expressed their regard for Delta power products. Does anyone else think Delta is not worth crap? Anyone? I developed my own high opinion of Delta PSU's from experience and data sheets.

The Delta GPS-300AB specs, (good ones too), are linked in my first post within this thread. That model is rated for 350 Watts during a 30 second 12V surge load. It is probably the same, or nearly the same unit as the GPS-350AB in our case deal, perhaps just a different label on the same box.

I'm running Lite-On, five Delta's, Enermax, Sparkle, Antec, and Enlight supplies. For a given wattage, I rank the quality roughly in that order. The Lite-On 300W 3.3+5V TCO of 250W makes all others look weak. Antec and Enlight have lightweight parts. Delta and Enermax make solid units.

Bad experience once, where a cheap case supply killed the DC-DC VCore circuit on two mobo's before I figured out what was happening. Now I buy most cases without power supplies, or I buy quality. I ordered five of these cases. I am nuts about using quality power supplies. I will be very disappointed if this Delta PSU turns out to be a stinker.

 

[daveymark]

Heck, for $20, I bought five of 'em. Merry christmas to everyone in my family this year, nice fast pc's for under $200. I'll test them as soon as I recieve them and let you all know how they do. I'll be putting Athlon 2400's in all of them. Too bad the micro's aren't even listed anymore...I should have bought more.

 

[Joe750]

now the cheapest is $25, and out of stock. Wish I would have gotten in on this...