Ubuntu server

[Nothinman]

Also, on the thing about wasting resources on an x server, I find it extremely time saving to have one, especially when that server is local. Makes work much faster.

Why? I can't think of a single thing X is useful for when configuring a server and since I'm using ssh to do that even if the box is right next to me just using the local X programs on my workstation is quicker than switching back and forth between keyboards and mice.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Also, on the thing about wasting resources on an x server, I find it extremely time saving to have one, especially when that server is local. Makes work much faster.

Why? I can't think of a single thing X is useful for when configuring a server and since I'm using ssh to do that even if the box is right next to me just using the local X programs on my workstation is quicker than switching back and forth between keyboards and mice.

Yes, the "resources wasted" by X aren't so much the ram/cpu on the server, it's the monitor & mouse you need to hook up and the time you spend moving from your desktop to the server to do anything. Not to mention the additional noise if your server is near enough that you can sit in front of it and the extra time you have to spend figuring out how to configure it via ssh when you're not near by...

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Also, on the thing about wasting resources on an x server, I find it extremely time saving to have one, especially when that server is local. Makes work much faster.

Why? I can't think of a single thing X is useful for when configuring a server and since I'm using ssh to do that even if the box is right next to me just using the local X programs on my workstation is quicker than switching back and forth between keyboards and mice.

I'm new to the whole linux server thing but even i figured out quick X was clearly not the way to go for a server. Webmin seems to be a worthwile install in addition to SSH to create a box with no need for X and hardly uses any resources compared to an install of KDE and allows for practically all the functionality of an X install and then some.

I do have one question though -- I see a lot of "use the dapper install and not the fiesty" but no reasons why? i thought the newest "fiesty" version was considered the best version of ubuntu? why is dapper better?

 

[Nothinman]

I don't even like to use Webmin, it was removed from Debian because the code is a mess and there's constantly security problems.

I do have one question though -- I see a lot of "use the dapper install and not the fiesty" but no reasons why? i thought the newest "fiesty" version was considered the best version of ubuntu? why is dapper better?

Dapper is the latest LTS release, but I believe Gutsy will supplant it when it's released next month.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: ThePiston
i actually run 8 different sites (some Joomla and vBulletin) and have some paying clients that I host. I want to host these sites which might mean letting people log in and alter files like on a normal host.

For the sake of your customers, DON'T HOST THIS SERVER YOURSELF.

 

[ThePiston]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ThePiston
i actually run 8 different sites (some Joomla and vBulletin) and have some paying clients that I host. I want to host these sites which might mean letting people log in and alter files like on a normal host.

For the sake of your customers, DON'T HOST THIS SERVER YOURSELF.

thanks, but i can't find a fast reliable server

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: ThePiston

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: ThePiston
i actually run 8 different sites (some Joomla and vBulletin) and have some paying clients that I host. I want to host these sites which might mean letting people log in and alter files like on a normal host.

For the sake of your customers, DON'T HOST THIS SERVER YOURSELF.

thanks, but i can't find a fast reliable server

for some reason i have a feeling youre leaving out "cheap" in your description, reminding me of the saying:

Fast, Good, Cheap: Pick any two.

 

[ThePiston]

how much should someone pay for a snappy, reliable service? per month...

 

[child of wonder]

ubuntuguide.org

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

I do have one question though -- I see a lot of "use the dapper install and not the fiesty" but no reasons why? i thought the newest "fiesty" version was considered the best version of ubuntu? why is dapper better?

Stability and reliability. Canonical has stated that they put more time and work into ensuring bugs are fixed, things are working the way they are supposed to, security holes are patched, and upgrading packages will go smoothly.

Feisty is great on a desktop or laptop though, where reliability may not be so critical and the usability improvements are worthwhile. And Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04, released spring of 2008) is going to be the next LTS release.

 

[Agrooreo]

Dont know if this will help ya any but read through this and see if any of it helps what your trying to do. bit-tech.net tut. heres the second part. second part of tut

 

[lousydood]

Yes, the "resources wasted" by X aren't so much the ram/cpu on the server, it's the monitor & mouse you need to hook up and the time you spend moving from your desktop to the server to do anything. Not to mention the additional noise if your server is near enough that you can sit in front of it and the extra time you have to spend figuring out how to configure it via ssh when you're not near by...

I may be making this topic even more muddled but ... what's wrong with X11-over-SSH?
I pretty much do all my work with X apps forwarded to my local machine. Even if they are just emacs and xterm.

 

[Nothinman]

I may be making this topic even more muddled but ... what's wrong with X11-over-SSH?
I pretty much do all my work with X apps forwarded to my local machine. Even if they are just emacs and xterm.

In most cases there's no point, there's no X apps required for administering a server and installing X just to run xterm remotely when you can do it from your machine makes no sense.