UC Berkeley child study exposed?

ShadesOfGrey

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<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
 

Steeplerot

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"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

Good to see tries to defend the fact that conservatives arent whiney victims by whining about how conservatives have been victimized. classic!
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.



Of course not, its a vast conspiracy victimizing the poor poor conservatives boo hoo.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.



Of course not, its a vast conspiracy victimizing the poor poor conservatives boo hoo.

Nothing was said about a conspiracy, but it is clear that the data used by this liberal professor is skewed due to where this study took place and who it used as subjects. A rational person could see this.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:

Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.

Nothing I posted was the "Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" variety you suggest. You refused to look at what appears to to be the facts of the case and apply them to the study. You instead took to attacking Michelle and others.
Come on Bowfinger, "Show us you can do more than parrot talking points and attack anyone who disagrees with you." :laugh:
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.
Nothing I posted was the "Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" variety you suggest. You refused to look at what appears to to be the facts of the case and apply them to the study. You instead took to attacking Michelle and others.
Good God, you're dense. My comments were directed at Malkin and her pathetic troll. The so-called "facts of the case" are exactly what I said. The rest is Malkin's "overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation." There is no story here. It's just self-gratification material for the Bush faithful.


Come on Bowfinger, "Show us you can do more than parrot talking points and attack anyone who disagrees with you." :laugh:
If you're going to rip off my stuff, at least do it in a way that makes sense. I'd love to hear your twisted "rationale" on how what I said was talking points. Beyond that, I can only repeat myself. I'm glad to see you're now parroting my words as well as the BushCo talking points. I hope that when you grow up you'll be able to begin thinking for yourself and forming your own ideas.

 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.
Nothing I posted was the "Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" variety you suggest. You refused to look at what appears to to be the facts of the case and apply them to the study. You instead took to attacking Michelle and others.
Good God, you're dense. My comments were directed at Malkin and her pathetic troll. The so-called "facts of the case" are exactly what I said. The rest is Malkin's "overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation." There is no story here. It's just self-gratification material for the Bush faithful.


Come on Bowfinger, "Show us you can do more than parrot talking points and attack anyone who disagrees with you." :laugh:
If you're going to rip off my stuff, at least do it in a way that makes sense. I'd love to hear your twisted "rationale" on how what I said was talking points. Beyond that, I can only repeat myself. I'm glad to see you're now parroting my words as well as the BushCo talking points. I hope that when you grow up you'll be able to begin thinking for yourself and forming your own ideas.

The only one who is dense is you. Did you miss this part? "You instead took to attacking Michelle and others."

So you are saying you didn't attack? :laugh:

You stated nothing. You went off on a rant without addressing the issue, which in this case is the obviously flawed "study" done by a liberal Berkely professor(yes I know that is redundant).

So do you think the study is valid considering their subjects and location?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.
Nothing I posted was the "Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" variety you suggest. You refused to look at what appears to to be the facts of the case and apply them to the study. You instead took to attacking Michelle and others.
Good God, you're dense. My comments were directed at Malkin and her pathetic troll. The so-called "facts of the case" are exactly what I said. The rest is Malkin's "overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation." There is no story here. It's just self-gratification material for the Bush faithful.


Come on Bowfinger, "Show us you can do more than parrot talking points and attack anyone who disagrees with you." :laugh:
If you're going to rip off my stuff, at least do it in a way that makes sense. I'd love to hear your twisted "rationale" on how what I said was talking points. Beyond that, I can only repeat myself. I'm glad to see you're now parroting my words as well as the BushCo talking points. I hope that when you grow up you'll be able to begin thinking for yourself and forming your own ideas.
The only one who is dense is you. Did you miss this part? "You instead took to attacking Michelle and others."

So you are saying you didn't attack? :laugh:
Go Cheney yourself. You're a waste of electrons. Of course I attacked her, or at least her pathetic piece. It's pure emotional crap, devoid of any significant factual information, posted only as self-gratification material for the Bush worshippers like you. You're probably yapping at me because I preempted your circle-jerk.


You stated nothing. You went off on a rant without addressing the issue, which in this case is the obviously flawed "study" done by a liberal Berkely professor(yes I know that is redundant).

So do you think the study is valid considering their subjects and location?
I don't know if the study was valid or not, but Malkin certainly adds nothing to help form an objective evaluation. The problem with you guys is you hear the word "Berkely" and your brain seizes, falling into an endless chant of "Liberal, liberal, liberal ..." So what if Berkely faculty are, on the average, more liberal than typical Americans? That tells us nothing about the parents of the children in this study. (You did notice it includes Berkely staff as well as faculty, didn't you? It's in the article.) It also does nothing to refute the study's methodology. It's just empty partisan innuendo, and it demonstrates total ignorance of science and statistical analysis.

 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm">In other words, ALL of the children in that study were the offspring of U.C. Berkeley professors, lecturers, and staff members.

The reason the Child Study Center is so popular is that they offer free/cheap child care/nursery schooling in exchange for the parents allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day.</a>

"How to spot a baby conservative" as one person trolled in another thread title has a little different light shed on it now. :laugh:

One thing I do wonder about though, who are these people who want their kids studied like this? That seems rather odd to me. There is no way I'd let someone do that even if daycare was FREE.
Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd say this piece of tripe exemplifies why Malkin is a professional infotainer and not employed in the sciences or any other field requiring objectivity and rational analysis. :laugh:
Try addressing the issue instead of once again trying to derail it with your BS.

No one is doing as you suggest in your troll post, I am just stating what appear to be the facts of the case.
Once agaiin, expressing disagreement with you and not "addressing the issue" are two different things.

Did you actually read it? The only pieces of factual information Malkin offers are that the child care provides its services for free in return for being able to study the children, and that the parents of these children worked at U.C. Berkely in some capacity. The rest of her rant is overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation. Her article is a troll, designed to inflame the Bush faithful into spasms of self-righteous indignation. It obviously worked.
Nothing I posted was the "Oh noes. Their parents work at a "liberal" school. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" variety you suggest. You refused to look at what appears to to be the facts of the case and apply them to the study. You instead took to attacking Michelle and others.
Good God, you're dense. My comments were directed at Malkin and her pathetic troll. The so-called "facts of the case" are exactly what I said. The rest is Malkin's "overblown emotional nonsense: baseless assumptions, unsupported stereotyping, and hateful partisan speculation." There is no story here. It's just self-gratification material for the Bush faithful.


Come on Bowfinger, "Show us you can do more than parrot talking points and attack anyone who disagrees with you." :laugh:
If you're going to rip off my stuff, at least do it in a way that makes sense. I'd love to hear your twisted "rationale" on how what I said was talking points. Beyond that, I can only repeat myself. I'm glad to see you're now parroting my words as well as the BushCo talking points. I hope that when you grow up you'll be able to begin thinking for yourself and forming your own ideas.
The only one who is dense is you. Did you miss this part? "You instead took to attacking Michelle and others."

So you are saying you didn't attack? :laugh:
Go Cheney yourself. You're a waste of electrons. Of course I attacked her, or at least her pathetic piece. It's pure emotional crap, devoid of any significant factual information, posted only as self-gratification material for the Bush worshippers like you. You're probably yapping at me because I preempted your circle-jerk.


You stated nothing. You went off on a rant without addressing the issue, which in this case is the obviously flawed "study" done by a liberal Berkely professor(yes I know that is redundant).

So do you think the study is valid considering their subjects and location?
I don't know if the study was valid or not, but Malkin certainly adds nothing to help form an objective evaluation. The problem with you guys is you hear the word "Berkely" and your brain seizes, falling into an endless chant of "Liberal, liberal, liberal ..." So what if Berkely faculty are, on the average, more liberal than typical Americans? That tells us nothing about the parents of the children in this study. (You did notice it includes Berkely staff as well as faculty, didn't you? It's in the article.) It also does nothing to refute the study's methodology. It's just empty partisan innuendo, and it demonstrates total ignorance of science and statistical analysis.

So you admit not addressing the topic then right?

The topic is not Michelle or your nitemares about Conservatives.

Yes, staff as well, but that still doesn't change anything. Does Berkely offer a good sample base? No, no it doesn't, these "findings" may only reflect what Berkely types are like. So the hitpiece of a "Study" is meaningless as it's not a representative sample of anything other than Berkely employees who take their kids to that daycare to get free or cheaper care.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.

Youre a complete and utter dope! How close have you EVER been to Berkeley? I spent 5 years there. A few stats:

student body: 52% asian
% of asians raised as conservative christians: 98%

Can you handle the math beyond that? My father constantly gave me sh!t for being at a liberal school, yet the christian crap was EVERYWHERE. I seriously hate people like you.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.

Youre a complete and utter dope! How close have you EVER been to Berkeley? I spent 5 years there. A few stats:

student body: 52% asian
% of asians raised as conservative christians: 98%

Can you handle the math beyond that? My father constantly gave me sh!t for being at a liberal school, yet the christian crap was EVERYWHERE. I seriously hate people like you.

So that makes it a good sample?

"I seriously hate people like you." I love you too.:heart:
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.

Youre a complete and utter dope! How close have you EVER been to Berkeley? I spent 5 years there. A few stats:

student body: 52% asian
% of asians raised as conservative christians: 98%

Can you handle the math beyond that? My father constantly gave me sh!t for being at a liberal school, yet the christian crap was EVERYWHERE. I seriously hate people like you.

So that makes it a good sample?

"I seriously hate people like you." I love you too.:heart:

One more time: How much time have you spent in Berkeley AFTER the 50s and 60s, or AT ALL? I spent FIVE years there, 1997-2002. Im guessing you have never been outside of Oklahoma or where ever it is you live. I have lived in the midwest, berkeley, LA, austin, Portland (OR), philly, and im moving to boston in a week. People are very different as a function of geography, but i wouldnt expect you to know that. Enjoy your small minded exitance...yes, that is why i hate you--your small mindedness.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
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"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.

Youre a complete and utter dope! How close have you EVER been to Berkeley? I spent 5 years there. A few stats:

student body: 52% asian
% of asians raised as conservative christians: 98%

Can you handle the math beyond that? My father constantly gave me sh!t for being at a liberal school, yet the christian crap was EVERYWHERE. I seriously hate people like you.

So that makes it a good sample?

"I seriously hate people like you." I love you too.:heart:

One more time: How much time have you spent in Berkeley AFTER the 50s and 60s, or AT ALL? I spent FIVE years there, 1997-2002. Im guessing you have never been outside of Oklahoma or where ever it is you live. I have lived in the midwest, berkeley, LA, austin, Portland (OR), philly, and im moving to boston in a week. People are very different as a function of geography, but i wouldnt expect you to know that. Enjoy your small minded exitance...yes, that is why i hate you--your small mindedness.

That's great that you spent 5 years there and have lived in multiple places, but that neither makes the "study" valid, it's sample representative, nor does it allow you to know who I am.

Yes, yes, I know you hate me, I got the hint after your PM saying I should die, but I still love you.:lips:
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
:laugh:


"and forced them to conform to their Socialist ideals, causing the future conservatives to feel resentful"

And I thought the orignal post was biased, that lady is a nutcase btw. But whatever workds for you fringe folks.

Lookout! grab the tinfoil! the commies are gonna eat your children!

What you think of Michelle or the person who provided the information is of no concern to the issue at hand. It's obvious that Berkely is vastly liberal and if liberals take their kids to daycare so they can be studied, don't you think that the results might be in question? This isn't your average daycare.

Youre a complete and utter dope! How close have you EVER been to Berkeley? I spent 5 years there. A few stats:

student body: 52% asian
% of asians raised as conservative christians: 98%

Can you handle the math beyond that? My father constantly gave me sh!t for being at a liberal school, yet the christian crap was EVERYWHERE. I seriously hate people like you.

So that makes it a good sample?

"I seriously hate people like you." I love you too.:heart:

One more time: How much time have you spent in Berkeley AFTER the 50s and 60s, or AT ALL? I spent FIVE years there, 1997-2002. Im guessing you have never been outside of Oklahoma or where ever it is you live. I have lived in the midwest, berkeley, LA, austin, Portland (OR), philly, and im moving to boston in a week. People are very different as a function of geography, but i wouldnt expect you to know that. Enjoy your small minded exitance...yes, that is why i hate you--your small mindedness.

That's great that you spent 5 years there and have lived in multiple places, but that neither makes the "study" valid, it's sample representative, nor does it allow you to know who I am.

Yes, yes, I know you hate me, I got the hint after your PM saying I should die, but I still love you.:lips:

Youre ASSumptions are invalid. Dont you get it? Answer my question, have you EVER been out of the midwest, where you live. If i was wrong im sure you would have said so. Youre a troll and a dope. Enjoy.

BTW, i said that closed minded people like you should die. But i wouldnt expect your feeble mind to understand the difference.
 

senseamp

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Anonymous emailer to a rightwing hack is not an authority on child studies, IMO.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Malkin is a tool.

I spent a summer working on pediatric psychosomatics with this guy at the Child Study Center. It would be too time consuming to cover all of the factual errors in Malkin's drivel so I will just hit the high points.

1) Center kids are often parts of experiments that are solely observational . . . in essence no interaction with the researcher . . . just being kids. Block's study fits this bill. Malkin's claim of allowing their kids to be "studied" by psychologists all day every day is just her infantile exaggeration.

2) The Center serves faculty AND staff which means the heavily liberal faculty kids could easily be matched with a strong cohort of conservative staff member kids. I found the kids to be ethnically and financially diverse which means EVERY kid at the Center was not the child of an African-American or Women's studies prof. I saw just as many granola/Birk parents as suits coming to pick up their kids.

3) The Center is a quality preschool and its cheap . . . but MOST Berkeley faculty and staff sent their kids SOMEWHERE else.

4) Malkin's premise is retarded b/c Block's study didn't say EVERY or even MOST kids grew up to be conservatives. Malkin's characterization of the study results is just plain dumb.

5) Malkin claims the preschoolers are rebelling against their liberal parents but their liberal parents aren't at the friggin' daycare. Their parents went to WORK! The whiny kids in Block's study had difficulty with themselves, other kids, and staff members. One could ASSUME they were also "whiny" at home but that wouldn't be evidence of rebelling against liberalism . . . by Malkin's logic these kids are rebelling against EVERYTHING.

6) Malkin claims personal knowledge of the Center but her description as I noted in #1 is highly suspect. Even though us HARD scientists chide our social science colleagues . . . they KNOW that you minimize interacting with your subjects unless the experiment REQUIRES interaction. More often than not observations of kids are made through one-way windows, videos, etc . . . not "hovering".

In sum, Malkin has no idea what she's talking about and the only people less informed than her are the ignorant few foolish enough to quote her.

From the Methods section: TWO nursery schools, SES diverse, with initial assessment in 1969-1971 and followup in 1989, 49 females 46 males.

Political perspective was a composite of 6 scales. The overall distribution favored liberalism but the authors noted the skew in the data basically meant conservatives were more homogeneous . . . in essence well characterized, while the liberal side tended to be more diverse (less group think).


I must admit I'm not all that impressed but it is an interesting study considering the strength of correlations between the pooled observations of 6 separate teachers and the self-identified political leanings two decades later.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Anonymous emailer to a rightwing hack is not an authority on child studies, IMO.

No one made that claim. However, the information that this was a daycare for employees who got cheap/free daycare to let their kids be subjected to this "study" is important. It also shows that the sample might not be representative.
 
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