UCI sophomore accused of rape... *NOW WITH PIC**PIC NOW REMOVED**PIC HAS BEEN RE-ADDED*

[DDCSpeed]

Leave Orcish alone guys. He just expressing his opinion just like everyone else and is entitled to his opinion.
I dont think personal insult to Orcish is necessary. Personally, I agree with most people that this person made a huge mistake (if proven and convicted) by raping a girl. What is quite shocking is the fact that he wants to do it again.

 

[Elledan]

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<< To be fair, let her rape him and it's settled. Why take entire man's life? >>



To be fair, why don't we take the rapist out to the desert, nail his dick to a dry tree, light the tree on fire and hand him a butcher knife.

Russ, NCNE >>


Cruel, but effective

 

[Viper GTS]

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<<

<< To be fair, let her rape him and it's settled. Why take entire man's life? >>



To be fair, why don't we take the rapist out to the desert, nail his dick to a dry tree, light the tree on fire and hand him a butcher knife.

Russ, NCNE >>


Cruel, but effective >>



He could potentially get away only losing a couple inches. It would be more effective to stick his dick through a knot-hole in a hollow tree, lock it in a vice, drop the vice in the tree, and THEN light the tree & hand him the knife.

Viper GTS

 

[Russ]

Viper,

I was trying to keep taxpayer expense to a minimum. Vices are expensive.

Russ, NCNE

 

[TheNoblePlatypus]

I seriously think we should crucify Orcish in a great cross-conflagration. Honestly, where do you get off trying and turning your skewered views against other posters? At least this is giving me a good list of people to completely ignore in other threads. Everyone knows who is number one on that list now too.

 

[Hoeboy]

I am seriously starting to think DrizztDoUrden and Orcish are friends of the guy who committed the rape. How can they sit there with their wacked out views and refuse to budge even though dozens of people already pointed out what was wrong with it. After a few posts and Orcish stopped responding for awhile, I thought it clicked in his head that there just might be something wrong with all his reasonings. But I guess I was wrong!

BTW, I respect his opinion and don't want to get into a flame war with him but damn Orcish, your opinions are based A LOT on assumptions rather than knowledge of the subject. You're practically God because you seem to know what a rapist feels, what a 15 year old feels, how teenagers act and react.

Also why do you guys keep assuming if someone goes to prison that they will "get a boyfriend?" I'm not sure of the percentage of men getting raped in prison but it can't be to the point where society's view of prison is so horried that people like Orcish can develop a sense of sorrow for those going to prison. The last time I heard, people in prison were getting treated pretty well. They even have the rights to sue prison for bad conditions. Sheesh.

 

[DDCSpeed]

I am wondering how the story goes when the "accused rapist" does go to trial. So far, I dont think he admitted to anything accord to the news that I have read even though all evidences are against him. Also, I wonder what happens when school starts next friday...(I go to UCI also) I wonder what the school papers will say.

 

[Elledan]

<< Viper,

I was trying to keep taxpayer expense to a minimum. Vices are expensive.

Russ, NCNE >>


ROFL

 

[Viper GTS]

A large pipe wrench could probably accomplish the same thing.

Viper GTS

 

[DrizztDoUrden]

<< I am seriously starting to think DrizztDoUrden and Orcish are friends of the guy who committed the rape. How can they sit there with their wacked out views and refuse to budge even though dozens of people already pointed out what was wrong with it. >>



Hey "hoe"boy, you think the idea of innocent before proven guilty is a "wacked out view"?
Maybe you should move to the middle east then were they don't care about the just laws.

IF this UCI student is guilty, it will be revealed in court. It won't be revealed by a the
prepubescent mob in this thread.

If there is "so much evidence" against him, then I am sure there will be lab reports. I am sure
his Honda Civic is filled with blood samples and other DNA samples since he allegedly tortured
the girl inside his car right?

I will trust the lab reports before I trust some "sting operation" conducted by teenagers.

 

[Sir Fredrick]

<< I will trust the lab reports before I trust some "sting operation" conducted by teenagers. >>



I agree that there will be plenty of evidence in that car, however you are putting down the sting operation and trying to make it sound less credible, the police were in on it and were not simply pawns in some sick game, the teens didn't bust this guy, the cops did. Yeah, the teens figured out how to make him come back, but I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[VisionsUCI]

OMG this is scary. I'm a third year student at UCI, and have probably seen him before, or at least his pictures. I can't imagine what would cause a person to do such a thing. Irvine is supposed to be one of the safest cities, too...

 

[baisezmoi]

Reading this thread reminded me of an incident that happened in my hs.

my friend prevented this guy(he was really cool in hs) from raping an unconscious girl(prolly drunk) who he knew. during the next year, my friend was constantly harrassed by this cool guy and his buddies. you know what the irony of this whole situation is, i heard the guy still had sex with the same girl on our grad night. most likely she was passed out.

 

[ImTyping]

Funny how you cannot type "f_ck" here, but it is ok to post a photo of a guy who has only been accused of a crime.
Are you gonna apologize if he is found not guilty?

 

[Ns1]

<< Funny how you cannot type "f_ck" here, but it is ok to post a photo of a guy who has only been accused of a crime.' >>



i don't see why not, its' public information, it's on the news and whatnot

 

[Hoeboy]

<<I am wondering how the story goes when the "accused rapist" does go to trial. So far, I dont think he admitted to anything accord to the news that I have read even though all evidences are against him. Also, I wonder what happens when school starts next friday...(I go to UCI also) I wonder what the school papers will say. >>


UCI starts next friday? Damn they start early I got until late January and early February.


<<Hey "hoe"boy, you think the idea of innocent before proven guilty is a "wacked out view"?
Maybe you should move to the middle east then were they don't care about the just laws.>>

Okay let's review what you posted earlier:



<<But I do not see any overwhelming evidence yet. According to the story, all the evidence
was gathered by two underaged kids!!! UHHHHH when was the last time the law accepted
evidence...on its face value...without any scrutiny...ESPECIALLY EVIDENCE GATHERED BY 15
YEAR OLDS?!?!?!>>

All the evidence were gathered by two underaged kids? So one girl who just got brutally raped and her friend decided to go be detectives, gather clues, and evidence? Uhh as I recall they didn't gather any evidence. The rape victim's friend assisted the cops in the sting operation. Aside from that, when did 15 year olds become so incompetent as how you put it? Oh wow! They're underaged!!! You can get a license at 16 for god sakes. So you're saying anyone under 18 is unreliable???


<<Sounds fishy to me. Maybe the girl got porked then got mad because the UCI Student would not talk to her after that. This scenario happens all the time.

Hmmm...what would be a cool way to get revenge? Of course...accuse the guy of rape!! Or even worse, accuse him of torturing a young innocent 15 year old girls!!!!

But how to get the evidence against him?? Hmmm...maybe contact him via AOL again and tell him to meet a different girl. But this time, tell the UCI Student to bring blades and duct tape because this new girl is into bondage and all that sick crap. So when the cops come rolling around, he will be caught red handed!!!>>


Yes just because the girl is mad he won't call her, she's gonna take a knife, cut her own face and probably get scarred for life. Then she's gonna call the police and report him so the media can jump all over this. So now basically the entire southern california area knows she was a rape victim. Yes the humiliation and stigma is well worth it just because he didn't call her. And oh of course since it was a sting operation, that means the cops were there when she led him on. Of course she told the guy to bring duct tape and a knife so the cops can have more overwhelming evidence to bust him. Damn those police bastards!!!


Listen, I know everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty and I don't mind if you even protect the guy based on that. But from the crap you're throwing out, I can't help but laugh and mock you. You're no different than OJ's defense lawyers. Oh yes there's blood everywhere but OJ didn't do it. The aliens planted it there!

 

[Jzero]

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<< no, rape is far worse than murder >>



Oh, really? Turn on your brain before you post . >>



Orcish, you are sadly misinformed and haven't done your homework.

Do a google search on "Rape Myths" and you'll find that your ramblings are practically a laundry list that echoes the ones you'll find.
If you are so misinformed that you think a girl of any age can be tied up, beaten and have swastikas carved into her face along with being raped, then I did some homework for you:
Rape Trauma Syndrome
33% of rape victims are traumatized to the point where they can actually be diagnosed with post-traumatic shock disorder (it's not just for shell-shocked soldiers) and the remaining 67% STILL exhibit Rape Trauma Syndrome in less severity.

I agree that it's a frightening idea that you could make one mistake in your life and be put away for all of it. It's a spectre that haunts me at times, as well.
But this was NO mistake. It's one thing if you got too drunk, or if she got too drunk or both of you and you didn't really know what you were doing. It's another thing to, as this character has been alleged, go trolling on the internet specifically for a young girl, threaten her, beat her, tie her up, cut her and rape her, and then go back the next day to hit up her friends. This guy exhibits all the pathologies of common serial criminals--he seems to derive more pleasure from her pain than from the act of sex.
Rape is a crime of violence, not a crime of sex. Rapists aren't looking for sex. They're looking for power. Even if this clown is innocent, this still applies to thousands of other rapists.

I suggest you get an education before posting further on this subject. Perhaps you would be well-served to call your local rape-crisis center and ask them if she deserved it, or if 20 years is too harsh a punishment for this dirtbag.
Perhaps you would be even better-served to WORK for the center answering the calls of women who have just been terrorized and assaulted.
I'd like to see you tell a rape victim to his/her face that he/she deserved it, or asked for it, or deep down inside liked it, or that their assailant, if he/she was brought to justice at all, was the punishment great enough. You'd catch a well-deserved fist, and hopefully more.

 

[gwlam12]

Why do we need a pic? I saw this guy on the news.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am deeply suspicious of a theme that has permeated many of the responses to this thread: that the alleged rapist made a "mistake." While I think it is important to keep in mind that this guy is innocent until proven guilty, if the evidence already provided is uncontrverted, he has committed a monstrous and quite deliberate crime. None of us is perfect and we have all undoubtedly made honest mistakes and errors of judgment. This is NOT the same thing as a premeditated kidnapping and violent rape.

Some posters here have argued that rape is a more serious crime than rape, and to an extent I think this is true. Most murders are crimes of passion that occur between family members - as terrible a crime as this is, many murderers have in fact killed the only person they will ever kill or even be inclined to kill. Rape, especially the kind alleged in this case, is by definition a more deliberate. permeditated crime, and the rate of recidivism (i.e., the tendency to offend again) is much higher among rapists than murderers. If this guy is convicted I would send him away for a LONG time, because he is an extraordinarily dangerous person.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

You couldnt be MORE wrong Orcish, saying she will just forget it is wacked. My ex was raped at age 14 and trust me SHE DIDNT FORGET IT. When someone takes something like that from you that is not there's to take you wont forget it. This is a simple thing NO MEANS NO.

 

[Kanalua]

So what happened to this freak?

 

[kendogg]

poor girl poor guy
he opened his fly
now hes gotta die

 

[gopunk]

goddamn, somebody have rosie rape orcish already...

 

[hzl eyed grl]

I don't think that I've ever seen a man that seemed as ignorant on the subject of rape than Orcish.

What that guy did to that young girl will be FOREVER in her mind. Not just when it happened. FOREVER. She will probably need a lot of counseling, therapy, etc... She will more than likely be afraid to be alone. How is that something that isn't (seemingly to Orcish) that big of a deal? My cousin got raped a little while back. She didn't provoke it. She didn't lure him. She didn't even KNOW him. (That I know of.) He attacked her in front of her house at night. Does he deserve the harshest of penalties? Hell yes. As well as every other rapist out there! :| :disgust:

 

[AUMM]

i saw a dateline or something special on this case, it turns out the girls best friend contacted brian dance throught aim and got him to meet her at the Block(in OC). And when he showed up the girl that got raped ID'ed him and they arrested him. They also found ducktape and rope in his car.