UCLA vs Tennessee

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

You mean like the past two national championships? Or was it 3 out of the last five? You really don't have to when you have 4 of the top 10 teams in the nation. The talent is in the conference.

At the TOP of the conference. The bottom feeders get pulled up and ranked when they clearly have NO business there. Ten. has no where NEAR the talent to be ranked 18th.

Remember last year? I think Tennessee got SPANKED by a pretty crappy CAL team. Looks like they got beat again by a 3rd string QB who was at a junior college last year. UCLA is going to finish in the middle or at the bottom of the Pac-10, just watch.

EDIT: and they dont even play every team in their conference. How can you choose the best team when you dont even play everybody!

The same TENN team that got to the SEC championship game?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

You mean like the past two national championships? Or was it 3 out of the last five? You really don't have to when you have 4 of the top 10 teams in the nation. The talent is in the conference.

At the TOP of the conference. The bottom feeders get pulled up and ranked when they clearly have NO business there. Ten. has no where NEAR the talent to be ranked 18th.

Remember last year? I think Tennessee got SPANKED by a pretty crappy CAL team. Looks like they got beat again by a 3rd string QB who was at a junior college last year. UCLA is going to finish in the middle or at the bottom of the Pac-10, just watch.

EDIT: and they dont even play every team in their conference. How can you choose the best team when you dont even play everybody!

The same TENN team that got to the SEC championship game?

Heh, UT was schizophrenic last year. They killed Georgia only to get destroyed by Alabama who barely lost to Georgia. They ended up in a three way tie for the SEC East with Georgia and Florida. They got to the SEC championship game by virtue of tie-breakers.

It was a good game last night but both teams had costly errors (Ints, overthrows, fumbles, punt blocks). It seemed more like the team to make the last mistake was going to be the team that lost. UT made that last mistake.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

You mean like the past two national championships? Or was it 3 out of the last five? You really don't have to when you have 4 of the top 10 teams in the nation. The talent is in the conference.

At the TOP of the conference. The bottom feeders get pulled up and ranked when they clearly have NO business there. Ten. has no where NEAR the talent to be ranked 18th.

Remember last year? I think Tennessee got SPANKED by a pretty crappy CAL team. Looks like they got beat again by a 3rd string QB who was at a junior college last year. UCLA is going to finish in the middle or at the bottom of the Pac-10, just watch.

EDIT: and they dont even play every team in their conference. How can you choose the best team when you dont even play everybody!

You're an idiot. "and they dont even play every team in their conference."

How the hell are they supposed to play TWELVE teams in their conference in a year? This post was in regards to OOC games. Not to mention they play EIGHT out of their twelve games again SEC teams. So you're suggesting they play every single game against SEC teams? Yet our post was in regards to OOC games for SEC teams.

Dude, STFU and don't reply to something you don't have a clue about.

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

Those things all together helped them win the game. Sure, ultimately they may be bad at the end of the year, but heart and emotion can drive people/teams to do great things.

You're probably also one of those idiots that said Barry Sanders? The guy's like 5'8"!! He'll never make it in the NFL!!!!!

We won't even get into the fact that UT was playing without Colquitt. The fact that UT's kicker missed 3 of 4 was really the decider in the game.

 

[Syringer]

The win actually puts UCLA into the rankings, very nice.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Syringer
The win actually puts UCLA into the rankings, very nice.

Yeah, the AP rankings, in other words, meaningless.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Syringer
The win actually puts UCLA into the rankings, very nice.

Yeah, the AP rankings, in other words, meaningless.

It always is at the beginning of the year. It's a guessing game about who "may" be good and what they did last year.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Heh, UT was schizophrenic last year. They killed Georgia only to get destroyed by Alabama who barely lost to Georgia. They ended up in a three way tie for the SEC East with Georgia and Florida. They got to the SEC championship game by virtue of tie-breakers.

It was a good game last night but both teams had costly errors (Ints, overthrows, fumbles, punt blocks). It seemed more like the team to make the last mistake was going to be the team that lost. UT made that last mistake.

only UT and UGA tied for the east with 2 conf losses and UT won the head-to-head so they made it to Atl (UF lost 2 conf games).

And I'm sorry but that was a terrible game. Never thought UT would miss Cutcliffe but it's clear the OC from Richmond is in over his head. A first time starter throwing 42 times when your RB's are averaging 6-7yds a carry is idiotic.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

You mean like the past two national championships? Or was it 3 out of the last five? You really don't have to when you have 4 of the top 10 teams in the nation. The talent is in the conference.

At the TOP of the conference. The bottom feeders get pulled up and ranked when they clearly have NO business there. Ten. has no where NEAR the talent to be ranked 18th.

Remember last year? I think Tennessee got SPANKED by a pretty crappy CAL team. Looks like they got beat again by a 3rd string QB who was at a junior college last year. UCLA is going to finish in the middle or at the bottom of the Pac-10, just watch.

EDIT: and they dont even play every team in their conference. How can you choose the best team when you dont even play everybody!

You're an idiot. "and they dont even play every team in their conference."

How the hell are they supposed to play TWELVE teams in their conference in a year? This post was in regards to OOC games. Not to mention they play EIGHT out of their twelve games again SEC teams. So you're suggesting they play every single game against SEC teams? Yet our post was in regards to OOC games for SEC teams.

Dude, STFU and don't reply to something you don't have a clue about.

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

Those things all together helped them win the game. Sure, ultimately they may be bad at the end of the year, but heart and emotion can drive people/teams to do great things.

You're probably also one of those idiots that said Barry Sanders? The guy's like 5'8"!! He'll never make it in the NFL!!!!!

We won't even get into the fact that UT was playing without Colquitt. The fact that UT's kicker missed 3 of 4 was really the decider in the game.

LOL.

So having 2 new coaches is an advantage? In the first game of the year? Usually its the new offense and the jitters that are BAD things at the starting of the year, until the team gets the hang of it. I don't understand how those are good things, I thought stability and familiarity are the good things.

Yeah, so the QB played a solid second half, yet you forget to mention his first half. It was about as bad as the first half for any QB could be. And you still lost!

Face it, Tennessee lost to a piss poor Pac-10 team, just like they did last year. Like i said before, UCLA MIGHT finish in the top 5 in the Pac-10, but its not likely. Just like how CAL ended up in the Pac-10. So what were your excuses for their clobbering last year?

Maybe the fact is that Tennessee isn't nearly as good as the rankings suggest. Maybe the bias towards the SEC allowed them into the preseason polls. Ever thought about that? The last 2 years have CLEARLY shown that Tenn just cant hold it against PAC-10 teams.

Since you wont get into the fact that UT was playing without Colquitt, I wont get into the fact that the QB of UCLA was the 3rd string. AND HE WAS FROM A JUCO last year.

You got beat by a junior college QB who threw 4 interceptions in the first half, there is absolutely no excuse

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
You got beat by a junior college QB who threw 4 interceptions in the first half, there is absolutely no excuse

The offensive coordinators were the difference. Norm Chow went into halftime and made adjustments and found something that will work for his QB. UT's OC Clausen looked totally lost in trying to find something that would work offensively.

 

[Syringer]

You're probably also one of those idiots that said Barry Sanders? The guy's like 5'8"!! He'll never make it in the NFL!!!!!

You fail at the arguing.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I'm an idiot

I'm confused. Was Tennessee playing a Junior College QB? Because I was under the impression that UT was playing UCLA. They are a Division I team. Their QB is playing in Division I. So we lost to a Div I Pac 10 QB idiot. I didn't realize that you could play in both the JUCO and Div 1 at the same time? You're a fucking football genius!

You're also too ignorant to realize that that same QB also played in Div 1 (San Diego State if I recall) before going to JUCO. Let's face it. Two road losses during the first week of two season does NOT clearly show that Pac-10 is better. Again, any idiot realizes that the first week ratings don't mean much. TN is generally good and they just had a bad game. They lost by a missed fieldgoal in OT. Any idiot would realize that nothing is a lock in college football.

Having 2 new coaches who are great college football minds is a huge upgrade over what they had. OF COURSE it's an upgrade. Freaking Norm Chow? He couldn't cut it in the NFL because he had freaking Vince Young, but the guy flat out knows how to design and call plays in CF. I'm not surprised you don't understand that though.

 

[Baltazar325]

TN lost because they didnt run the football.

Anyways, I live in Knoxville and i'm a Vols fan and I just want Phat Phil gone. They will still do well in the SEC and will be ranked higher than UCLA when the season is over.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I'm an idiot

I'm confused. Was Tennessee playing a Junior College QB? Because I was under the impression that UT was playing UCLA. They are a Division I team. Their QB is playing in Division I. So we lost to a Div I Pac 10 QB idiot. I didn't realize that you could play in both the JUCO and Div 1 at the same time? You're a fucking football genius!

You're also too ignorant to realize that that same QB also played in Div 1 (San Diego State if I recall) before going to JUCO. Let's face it. Two road losses during the first week of two season does NOT clearly show that Pac-10 is better. Again, any idiot realizes that the first week ratings don't mean much. TN is generally good and they just had a bad game. They lost by a missed fieldgoal in OT. Any idiot would realize that nothing is a lock in college football.

Having 2 new coaches who are great college football minds is a huge upgrade over what they had. OF COURSE it's an upgrade. Freaking Norm Chow? He couldn't cut it in the NFL because he had freaking Vince Young, but the guy flat out knows how to design and call plays in CF. I'm not surprised you don't understand that though.

Should I call him the 3rd string QB instead? Will that make you feel better?

It wasn't "one missed field goal" in OT. It was an entire game of mistakes, screw-ups, and lost opportunities. Multiple Lost Opportunities

How many chances do they need to win a game? Just a guess, but its probably close to the number of excuses you can make up for them every time they get smashed by a Pac-10 team.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I'm an idiot

I'm confused. Was Tennessee playing a Junior College QB? Because I was under the impression that UT was playing UCLA. They are a Division I team. Their QB is playing in Division I. So we lost to a Div I Pac 10 QB idiot. I didn't realize that you could play in both the JUCO and Div 1 at the same time? You're a fucking football genius!

You're also too ignorant to realize that that same QB also played in Div 1 (San Diego State if I recall) before going to JUCO. Let's face it. Two road losses during the first week of two season does NOT clearly show that Pac-10 is better. Again, any idiot realizes that the first week ratings don't mean much. TN is generally good and they just had a bad game. They lost by a missed fieldgoal in OT. Any idiot would realize that nothing is a lock in college football.

Having 2 new coaches who are great college football minds is a huge upgrade over what they had. OF COURSE it's an upgrade. Freaking Norm Chow? He couldn't cut it in the NFL because he had freaking Vince Young, but the guy flat out knows how to design and call plays in CF. I'm not surprised you don't understand that though.

Should I call him the 3rd string QB instead? Will that make you feel better?

It wasn't "one missed field goal" in OT. It was an entire game of mistakes, screw-ups, and lost opportunities. Multiple Lost Opportunities

How many chances do they need to win a game? Just a guess, but its probably close to the number of excuses you can make up for them every time they get smashed by a Pac-10 team.

You can call UT's QB the "starter" but he wasn't good enough to take the job last season over another worthless QB. Those 2 are probably the worst UT starters in the last 15-20yrs. Add that to the deer-in-headlights OC and it was bound to happen. The D played well enough for UT to be up by 4 TD's at halftime.

Also, you keep saying "smashed" but I'm not sure that really happened last night. They lost but not smashed.

 

[Baltazar325]

Everyone also forgets what they did to Cal 2 years ago.

The team has problems, there is no doubt about that, but making it sound like UCLA smashed them is retarded. Bad coaching lost that game last night.

 

[Syringer]

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

You name 5 things they "had going" for them, I can name 100.

1. Losing their starting TE
2. Losing their starting RB
3. Losing their starting/#1 WR, all in the first half
4. A QB who through 4 horrible interceptions
5. A bunch of true freshman who've never played a game before, having to do it on a national television stage
6. An o-line that has two players that played at all last year, and lost two guys before the season began
7. An o-line that includes a converted TE and former DT
8. A lineup of QBs who saw the only two guys that had any sort of real college experience (playing backup and SDSU and JUCO don't count) lost to injury before the season began
9. A defense that last year gave up 44 points to Utah last year and lost several key players
10. They averaged less than 1 yard a carry
11. People telling them all week long that they didn't have a chance in this game and that they'd lose all week
12. Being outmatched in talent at practically every single position on the field
13. A team that features remnants from recruiting classes that have been consistently near the bottom of the Pac-10 in recent years
14. A coach who'd been out of college football for 6 years who was the 3rd choice in the running for the job
15. Need I go on?

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

You name 5 things they "had going" for them, I can name 100.

1. Losing their starting TE
2. Losing their starting RB
3. Losing their starting/#1 WR, all in the first half
4. A QB who through 4 horrible interceptions
5. A bunch of true freshman who've never played a game before, having to do it on a national television stage
6. An o-line that has two players that played at all last year, and lost two guys before the season began
7. An o-line that includes a converted TE and former DT
8. A lineup of QBs who saw the only two guys that had any sort of real college experience (playing backup and SDSU and JUCO don't count) lost to injury before the season began
9. A defense that last year gave up 44 points to Utah last year and lost several key players
10. They averaged less than 1 yard a carry
11. People telling them all week long that they didn't have a chance in this game and that they'd lose all week
12. Being outmatched in talent at practically every single position on the field
13. A team that features remnants from recruiting classes that have been consistently near the bottom of the Pac-10 in recent years
14. A coach who'd been out of college football for 6 years who was the 3rd choice in the running for the job
15. Need I go on?

You're a homer

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: Syringer

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

You name 5 things they "had going" for them, I can name 100.

1. Losing their starting TE
2. Losing their starting RB
3. Losing their starting/#1 WR, all in the first half
4. A QB who through 4 horrible interceptions
5. A bunch of true freshman who've never played a game before, having to do it on a national television stage
6. An o-line that has two players that played at all last year, and lost two guys before the season began
7. An o-line that includes a converted TE and former DT
8. A lineup of QBs who saw the only two guys that had any sort of real college experience (playing backup and SDSU and JUCO don't count) lost to injury before the season began
9. A defense that last year gave up 44 points to Utah last year and lost several key players
10. They averaged less than 1 yard a carry
11. People telling them all week long that they didn't have a chance in this game and that they'd lose all week
12. Being outmatched in talent at practically every single position on the field
13. A team that features remnants from recruiting classes that have been consistently near the bottom of the Pac-10 in recent years
14. A coach who'd been out of college football for 6 years who was the 3rd choice in the running for the job
15. Need I go on?

You're a homer

All the experts picked UTenn.

Craft was a 3rd stringer JuCo transfer player who wouldnt have likely ever started a game at UCLA if it wasnt for injuries and the only other QBs were freshmen.

UCLA has a legit D this year.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

Typical fair weather fan pac-10 homer statement.
Any homes for sale in the area where you live, or all they all occupied by USC players parents at the moment?

Good luck against Stanford on Nov. 10th :laugh:

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad

Originally posted by: kalster
no wonder sec teams dont play any meaningful OOC games

Typical fair weather fan pac-10 homer statement.
Any homes for sale in the area where you live, or all they all occupied by USC players parents at the moment?

Good luck against Stanford on Nov. 10th :laugh:

Yeah USC seems to have a pretty shitty habit of dropping a select game or two, but at least we're consistent with it haha

 

[Queasy]

Ouch - Meltdown in Vols Land as Arian Foster's Mom takes on one of the longest (and strangest) boosters for Tennessee.

When any school loses a game it shouldn't, fans search far and wide for someone to blame. When an SEC school loses a game it shouldn't, the attacks on those perceived to be at fault for the loss can get downright nasty. So when a Tennessee fan -- and booster, and former president of the UT alumni association -- logged on to a message board and heaped blame on tailback Arian Foster for the Vols' 27-24 overtime loss at UCLA on Monday, Foster's mother, Bernadette, returned fire.

Roy Adams, a Memphis-based Tennessee fan with a rather colorful history, regularly posts under the alias "Tennstud" on the message board at InsideTennessee, the Scout.com site that covers Tennessee. After the loss, Adams didn't hold back.

In a post titled "This was NOT a team loss; this was a loss caused by two," Adams described a game-watching party he hosted that included several former Tennessee players. He also pointed out the players he believed were at fault.

"If, If, a running back who has caused us to lose 2 games in his career didn't fumble, we would have won," Adams wrote. "If, If, we didn't have such a poor, ineffective, qb, we would have won. A debate develolped as to how far back to we go to observe such a poor, ineffective, qb. in UT's history."

The running back Adams referenced is Foster, who fumbled in the red zone early in Monday's third quarter. The quarterback is starter Jonathan Crompton. Bernadette Foster, who also posts regularly on several Tennessee message boards under the alias fostermom, scolded Adams in a post of her own titled "Attention Roy and whoever else wants to read."

"I've seen blame on everything from orange pants to Dustin Colquitt," Foster wrote. "Arian had a bad fumble....a good game, but a bad fumble. No excuses. It can't happen and it shouldn't. What would you like me to say?"

Later, Foster aimed directly at Adams.

"Money doesn't buy you intelligence, it doesn't even buy you love," Foster wrote. "But I guess in Memphis, it sure as hell buys you a crowd at your house for a football game. I'd gladly be poor all my life than to wind up like you.

"And I don't care if I get banned. You, Roy Adams, can kiss my (rear)."

Reached by phone Tuesday morning, Foster confirmed she authored the post. She then explained why she felt it necessary to defend her son, a senior who needs to gain 589 more yards to pass Travis Henry as Tennessee's all-time leading rusher.

"So many fans look at these kids like they're just players on a Gameboy," Bernadette Foster said. "I want to remind them that these players are human."

She couldn't be more correct. It's one thing to publicly rip an NFL back who makes millions to carry the football, but Foster turned down his chance to get paid to return to Tennessee, where he receives tuition, room and board. Tennessee lost to a physically inferior team not because of two players, but because the Vols didn't come ready to play. In the end, the blame rests with the coaches, who are paid handsomely to prepare those players.

Of course, some message-board types disagree. Two minutes after fostermom's post hit the board, a fan with the handle MemphisVol75 responded with this: "...your son is a nice guy and all that, but he's a fumbler in clutch situations. It's there for all of us to see."

That begs a question. Would MemphisVol75 have the guts to say that to Bernadette Foster's face? Or better yet, to Arian Foster's face?

 

[Baltazar325]

Hah awesome find. I can assure you that Knoxville Sports radios is full of whaling and gnashing of teeth and every excuse in the world. We lost because we got out coached and outplayed. I don't think UCLA is really a better team but on Monday night they were and I give them their credit. As a life long Vols fan I've seen us lose many games that we shouldn't have and to me, it's usually because we got out coached. I'm still not sure why we didn't give Foster and Monterrio 50 combined carries. I think if they had, it would have been a different game.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: Syringer

Not to mention that UCLA had a ton of things going for it last night. NCAA isn't about who's the best team on the field.

1. At home
2. New Coach
3. New O Coach
4. Solid D
5. A QB who played a very solid second half.

You name 5 things they "had going" for them, I can name 100.

1. Losing their starting TE
2. Losing their starting RB
3. Losing their starting/#1 WR, all in the first half
4. A QB who through 4 horrible interceptions
5. A bunch of true freshman who've never played a game before, having to do it on a national television stage
6. An o-line that has two players that played at all last year, and lost two guys before the season began
7. An o-line that includes a converted TE and former DT
8. A lineup of QBs who saw the only two guys that had any sort of real college experience (playing backup and SDSU and JUCO don't count) lost to injury before the season began
9. A defense that last year gave up 44 points to Utah last year and lost several key players
10. They averaged less than 1 yard a carry
11. People telling them all week long that they didn't have a chance in this game and that they'd lose all week
12. Being outmatched in talent at practically every single position on the field
13. A team that features remnants from recruiting classes that have been consistently near the bottom of the Pac-10 in recent years
14. A coach who'd been out of college football for 6 years who was the 3rd choice in the running for the job
15. Need I go on?

You're a homer

homer; n. - Someone who shows blind loyalty to a team or organization, typically ignoring any shortcomings or faults they have.

Yeah I'm definitely a homer except I'm the complete opposite.