UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

WaTaGuMp

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Saturday the 23rd, PPV of course. Who is going to be watching? I will be and Lesnar I think will win.
 

jme5343

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Yeah, after hating Lesnar after he had his WT outburst, I've found myself liking him, especially for his interviews and demeanor in recent interviews.
 

EvilYoda

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Assuming that he's the same fighter he's always been, I don't see Velasquez lasting more than 2 rounds unless he lands a solid blow.
 

waggy

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Assuming that he's the same fighter he's always been, I don't see Velasquez lasting more than 2 rounds unless he lands a solid blow.

even then i think lesnar has it. it will end in 2nd round via hammer fist beat down.
 

QueBert

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cain is going to finish was carwin started.

Doubtful, Carwin hits about 4x as hard as Velasquez, and if you re-watch his fight with Brock, he wasn't close to finshing him. The only way Cain wins here is a decision, which is possible, but I don't think him finshing Lesnar is going to happen.

To put it in terms ATOT can maybe understand better. Cain KO/TKO'ing Lesnar would be about = to Trident losing his virginity in a 3 some with 2 other girls. Cain winning a decision would be about = to Trident losing his virginity. While it's possible I still don't see it happening
 

WT

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To put it in terms ATOT can maybe understand better. Cain KO/TKO'ing Lesnar would be about = to Trident losing his virginity in a 3 some with 2 other girls. Cain winning a decision would be about = to Trident losing his virginity. While it's possible I still don't see it happening

Whoa, now THAT I can fathom !! Deep odds, indeed !!!
 

vital

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Doubtful, Carwin hits about 4x as hard as Velasquez, and if you re-watch his fight with Brock, he wasn't close to finshing him. The only way Cain wins here is a decision, which is possible, but I don't think him finshing Lesnar is going to happen.

To put it in terms ATOT can maybe understand better. Cain KO/TKO'ing Lesnar would be about = to Trident losing his virginity in a 3 some with 2 other girls. Cain winning a decision would be about = to Trident losing his virginity. While it's possible I still don't see it happening

Lesnar could also lose to an unlucky submission like he did to Mir
 

OCfreakley

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that's why i give it to lesnar. Carwin is a far better fighter then cain.

You haven't seen much footage on Velasquez I guess.
His stand-up is technically better than Carwin's for sure, and his wrestling is light years ahead of Carwin's, plus his mental is totally on point.
Its unlikely he will make the same mistakes Carwin did, like gassing himself out in the 1st round, and making no attempt to escape the arm triangle choke.

This will most likely be the fight Lesnar vs Carwin was supposed to be.

[link]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/489161-five-reasons-brock-lesnar-should-be-worried-about-cain-velasquez[/link]
 
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WaTaGuMp

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You haven't seen much footage on Velasquez I guess.
His stand-up is technically better than Carwin's for sure, and his wrestling is light years ahead of Carwin's, plus his mental is totally on point.
Its unlikely he will make the same mistakes Carwin did, like gassing himself out in the 1st round, and making no attempt to escape the arm triangle choke.

This will most likely be the fight Lesnar vs Carwin was supposed to be.

Cain also has way better cardio then Carwin.
 

jiggyest

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Not much of a Lesnar fan.

With that said, I see nothing special in Cain nor in his previous fights. I would even say that if not for the lack of quality heavies, he wouldn't be fighting Brock.

Brock wins via size abuse (There really needs to be a super heavy+ weight division).
 

CPA

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You haven't seen much footage on Velasquez I guess.
His stand-up is technically better than Carwin's for sure, and his wrestling is light years ahead of Carwin's, plus his mental is totally on point.
Its unlikely he will make the same mistakes Carwin did, like gassing himself out in the 1st round, and making no attempt to escape the arm triangle choke.

This will most likely be the fight Lesnar vs Carwin was supposed to be.

[link]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/489161-five-reasons-brock-lesnar-should-be-worried-about-cain-velasquez[/link]

while I want and think Lesnar will win, my understanding is that Cain's cardio is out of this world. I don't think he will get gassed, I just don't think he's going to be able to stop Lesnar from jumping on him, then hammer fisting his face into a pulp.
 

surfsatwerk

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Cain is a lot smaller than Brock iirc. You just can't give up all that muscle and expect to beat an equally skilled fighter.
 

endervalentine

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Wow, I thought there would me more votes for Cain. The matches I've seen Cain fight in, I've been impressed ... what the vegas/atot odds for this fight?
 

Tea Bag

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This is a great card, I'm really looking forward to Shields in the UFC. He may not be the most exciting fighter in terms of what the fans want to see (stand up swinging for the fences) but he's interesting in the mix. Not sure if I agree with "Shields wins and he gets a shot at the title", but he's got some wins to back it up so whatever. Bring it on.

The only way Cain wins this fight is if it goes into the 4th/5th round and even that's a question mark, we haven't seen Brock's gas tank run that long. He's in great shape but for a guy who's probably 275 come cage time that's a ton of time being that active. I expect Brock to smother and smash this one out by the 2nd round.
 

Tea Bag

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Wow, I thought there would me more votes for Cain. The matches I've seen Cain fight in, I've been impressed ... what the vegas/atot odds for this fight?

Brock Lesnar (5-1) -155 vs. Cain Velasquez (8-0) +125 as of yesterday.

EDIT: Brock favored, but not by a HUGE, ridiculous Anderson Silva-like line.
 
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QueBert

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Did anyone see the press conference? Brock looks scary as hell with the beard. Gotta love his sense of humor when he said he's finally hitting puberty so he decided to grow a beard. Also the "After this fight I'm going to row my Viking ship up to Canada and go hunting" comment

LOL I could see him actually doing that.
 
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Brock is a freaking beast. He's not human. Maybe an ogre? Brock is gonna suplex Cain and then finish him off with a steady diet of canned hams.
 
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