Ufc 141: Brock lesnar vs alistair overeem

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waggy

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yep~ confirmed he's a shitty fighter and said it was his last fight.
Other guys are much more deserving of the opportunities he's received.

i disagree on that. He deserved and made the mos tof the opportunities. he fought the best and won.

he has had some major health issues and was told to stop fighting after his first hospital stay then again after his 2nd. After his 2nd time he was not the same person or fighter.
 

Robert Munch

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It's that Brock's diverticulitis that did him in. 12" of colon removed and probably still affected.
 

ArchAngel777

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Brock told everyone he felt great and the best he has been in a long time. Yet, supposedly 3 years ago, befor the surgury he was only at 30% according to doctors (lol, nice arbitrary number) and dominated everyone, right? Yeah...

Look, I am great impressed by Brock's change of attitude these last 3 fights. In fact, his humble response tonight made me feel a bit bad for his loss. With that said, Alistar Dominated him.

It is possible that Brock is the type of fighter that thrives on hate, and he only truly hated Frank Mir. Thus, perhaps only the bull rush animal comes out when he hates you. Regardless, Brock lost fair and square. It wasn't a lucky punch, it was a host of nasty knees and I don't anyone could have taken those. The demolition man is known for those massive knee shots. Look at what he did to Todd Duffee.
 

marmasatt

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I can't get over how much Brock folds like a cheap suit when he takes like more than one shot that hurts him. Nate Diaz is getting like kicked and punched in the head by a good fighter and he's brushing them off as if his kid sister is hitting him. Incidentally, I've never seen Cerrone look like that, ever. Getting his lip rebusted open must have had something to do with it.
 

ArchAngel777

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I can't get over how much Brock folds like a cheap suit when he takes like more than one shot that hurts him. Nate Diaz is getting like kicked and punched in the head by a good fighter and he's brushing them off as if his kid sister is hitting him. Incidentally, I've never seen Cerrone look like that, ever. Getting his lip rebusted open must have had something to do with it.

Again, that is unfair. I bet one of those knees would have you wishing you were DEAD. Alistair was putting all of his power in those shots. No one can say Brock is weak. Yeah, he doesn't like getting hit in the FACE, but nowhere has he ever indicated that a body shot puts him out. He took a ton of knees already, some that hurt him visible, he continued on. Overeem hit him with a nice and very hard liver shot. His body shut down. So would pretty much anyone. I am not a brock fan (I wanted AO to win), but this garbage of him wimping out is absolutely stupid.
 

isekii

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Again, that is unfair. I bet one of those knees would have you wishing you were DEAD. Alistair was putting all of his power in those shots. No one can say Brock is weak. Yeah, he doesn't like getting hit in the FACE, but nowhere has he ever indicated that a body shot puts him out. He took a ton of knees already, some that hurt him visible, he continued on. Overeem hit him with a nice and very hard liver shot. His body shut down. So would pretty much anyone. I am not a brock fan (I wanted AO to win), but this garbage of him wimping out is absolutely stupid.

That's the thing though. You watch his other fights where an opponent hits him, he folds like a chair.
 

waggy

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That's the thing though. You watch his other fights where an opponent hits him, he folds like a chair.

who? oh yeah cain and carwin? LOL fuck they are hard hitters.

those knees shots were hard. overeem has made a name for himself with those. there is a reason people say uberknee when talking about him.

But he does have a tendency to turtle and give up. I do think his health issues are part of that and the fact he just got into MMA and not used to getting hit. then faceing guys like cain, carwin and overeem.

I don't see overeem winning UFC belt though. i think carwin, cain give him a fight and win. they hit fucking hard and are good wrestlers too.
 

isekii

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who? oh yeah cain and carwin? LOL fuck they are hard hitters.

those knees shots were hard. overeem has made a name for himself with those. there is a reason people say uberknee when talking about him.

But he does have a tendency to turtle and give up. I do think his health issues are part of that and the fact he just got into MMA and not used to getting hit. then faceing guys like cain, carwin and overeem.

I don't see overeem winning UFC belt though. i think carwin, cain give him a fight and win. they hit fucking hard and are good wrestlers too.

Most def~ those guys you mentioned are all heavy hitters. No doubt those knee shots were powerful.
Brock with his health issues should've never fought Overeem.
It's great that he's healthy, but the fight could've been much better with another opponent.
Brock wasn't a douche today, I give him mad props for that.
 
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I'm no WWE fan, but I was a huge Lesnar fan. My mom has had the same surgery as Lesnar, twice, and has almost died both times. He needs to be with his family.

Fitch losing surprisingly doesn't make it any better...
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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You opponents in UFC knows exactly where your weak spot is. Where you have had surgeries and injuries and which spots are spots of bother for fighters due to prior injuries. Overeem showed it with the knees and body shots.
 

Apex

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Holy smoke! What's up with with the people who crop 1 letter out of their first name just going full on beast mode? Jimy Hettes and Johny Hendricks just smashed their opponents.
 

Apex

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who? oh yeah cain and carwin? LOL fuck they are hard hitters.

those knees shots were hard. overeem has made a name for himself with those. there is a reason people say uberknee when talking about him.

Agreed. Remember, they changed the K1 rules because of Overeem (v. Teixeira). Full plum was legal before, but after, they went to single hand only. That guy's knees are crazy.
 

Hugh Jass

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You guys running your mouth about Lesnar need to go have a couple of the same surgeries he did and then get kicked hard in the gut, side and chest multiple times by a guy with some of the hardest kicks and knees around then come back here and see if you talk shit.

Brock would murder at least 99% of you big mouth fuck twats.
 

JEDI

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i wonder if those body shots would have done anything if Brock didnt have the surgeries?

i've never seen another other top UFC fighter bothered by body shots so early in the match
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Holy smoke! What's up with with the people who crop 1 letter out of their first name just going full on beast mode? Jimy Hettes and Johny Hendricks just smashed their opponents.

Hendricks took 12 seconds but still wasnt a heavyweight bout
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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You guys running your mouth about Lesnar need to go have a couple of the same surgeries he did and then get kicked hard in the gut, side and chest multiple times by a guy with some of the hardest kicks and knees around then come back here and see if you talk shit.

Brock would murder at least 99% of you big mouth fuck twats.

Yet you are making up excuses. He was fit to fight. He was taking a lot of hits. Where was his offense?

i wonder if those body shots would have done anything if Brock didnt have the surgeries?

i've never seen another other top UFC fighter bothered by body shots so early in the match
Not when you get hit in the Liver that hard. Not many will recover from it.
 

marmasatt

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i wonder if those body shots would have done anything if Brock didnt have the surgeries?

i've never seen another other top UFC fighter bothered by body shots so early in the match

This is all I'm saying. He has a history of kind of turtling up, does he not? Look at both Cain and Carwin. Again, they are hard hitters but I don't see every other heavyweight just cover up and send it in like Brock did. I'm sure the surgery only made it worse, but this is not the first time he's done it, that's for sure. And yes, Brock could take me. I'm 195 and have never trained MMA in my life, lol. That doesn't stop what my eyes tell me. I have to admit, I usually post my pics in the beginning of a thread. I was 1-4 last night.

Edit: Brock handled the loss with alot of class too. It was nice to see.
 
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LiuKangBakinPie

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Lesnar does not like to get hit. But, he can take a hit. Overeem is a good striker. Lesnar couldn't keep hold of him, couldn't take him down and didn't push the pace enough he let Overeem get off on his strikes too much. His striking and striking defense simply weren't there.
 

snoopdoug1

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I can't get over how much Brock folds like a cheap suit when he takes like more than one shot that hurts him. Nate Diaz is getting like kicked and punched in the head by a good fighter and he's brushing them off as if his kid sister is hitting him. Incidentally, I've never seen Cerrone look like that, ever. Getting his lip rebusted open must have had something to do with it.

I'd like to see you try to take one of those shots to the body from Overeem. Heavyweights are going to kick much harder...
 
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Brock hasn't looked the same since surgery. Even when he won the Carwin fight it was a fluke.

I really don't see anyone in the UFC beating Overeem right now. You can't take him down and I don't care how good your striking is it's not HW Champion K1 level striking. K1 striking is so far ahead of what the UFC has to offer it's not even funny except for a few guys like Silva, GSP.
 

Whisper

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Most def~ those guys you mentioned are all heavy hitters. No doubt those knee shots were powerful.
Brock with his health issues should've never fought Overeem.
It's great that he's healthy, but the fight could've been much better with another opponent.
Brock wasn't a douche today, I give him mad props for that.

Honestly, I'd imagine that he might've been heavily pushed into the fight by the UFC and fans, given that the latter have been clamoring for Brock to take a fight like this for a while now. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he'd seriously considered retiring beforehand, but decided on "just one more fight" after some nagging by White et al.
 

JEDI

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Lesnar does not like to get hit. But, he can take a hit. Overeem is a good striker. Lesnar couldn't keep hold of him, couldn't take him down and didn't push the pace enough he let Overeem get off on his strikes too much. His striking and striking defense simply weren't there.

yeah, brock just stood in front of Reem. duh!
 
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