Ufc 141: Brock lesnar vs alistair overeem

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SKORPI0

Lifer
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That was shit I'm glad I didn't pay to see that. Brock just stands there,how much did he get payed for that?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/26760/ufc...386k-lesnar-400k-lead-1-4-million-payroll.mma


Main-event winner Alistair Overeem ($385,714.28) and fellow heavyweight headliner Brock Lesnar ($400,000) were the top earners at Friday's UFC 141 event.

The duo accounted for 57 percent of the night's official $1,369,714.28 fighter payroll.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) obtained the salary figures from the Nevada State Athletic Commission on Friday.
 

Woosta

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lol at these couch potato 200 lb fatsos saying 30-40 lbs of muscle can't be gained naturally when they haven't picked up a dumbbell in their life.

Please don't talk shit about gaining muscle if you haven't properly researched it or attempted it yourself. I gained nearly 30 lbs of muscle in 2011 and I have 30 more to go in 2012, and I'm **not** a professional full-time athlete NOR do I have Alistair Overeem's superior genetics.
 
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Woosta

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this is for all the shit talkers about how brock was great when i said SF HWs were just as good as UFC HWs a year ago or so.

all of these UFC fanboys were listening to dana's word like gospel

"[Expletive] great guy. I like Overeem. I have nothing but respect for him. But it's an absolute [expletive] joke that anybody would rank him in the top 10. And anybody that wants to debate with me, and tell me why Alistair should be ranked, [expletive] fire away. I'm ready. I want to hear it. Can't wait. If on your rankings you have him in the top 10, you should be [expletive] embarrassed."

"How do you figure because he's such a good K-1 fighter (that) he can parlay that into being a mixed-martial-arts fighter?" an exasperated White asked. "That's what makes the mixed-martial-arts media [expletive] stupid – that they would even rank this guy in the top 10 because he's fighting in K-1. That makes absolutely no [expletive] sense, and I would love to hear somebody make sense of this guy being ranked in the top 10.
 

Woosta

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And this is when all the Brock fanboys delete their posts and say they were with Overeem all along.

Jump on the bandwagon guys.
 

Woosta

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You guys running your mouth about Lesnar need to go have a couple of the same surgeries he did and then get kicked hard in the gut, side and chest multiple times by a guy with some of the hardest kicks and knees around then come back here and see if you talk shit.

Brock would murder at least 99% of you big mouth fuck twats.

So you shouldn't talk shit about any fighter nor should anyone because any fighter could beat any non-fighter.
 

Woosta

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lol at guys saying the Brock that beat up Mir was 100% and would've won... Mir is a gatekeeper at best..
 

waggy

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Brock hasn't looked the same since surgery. Even when he won the Carwin fight it was a fluke.

I really don't see anyone in the UFC beating Overeem right now. You can't take him down and I don't care how good your striking is it's not HW Champion K1 level striking. K1 striking is so far ahead of what the UFC has to offer it's not even funny except for a few guys like Silva, GSP.

Overeem has a issue with wrestlers. Brock didn't do shit to push the pace and try takedowns. he stood and tried to bang silly move with him

Shane, Cain and JDS all i think have a far better chance against him then Brock did. All can take a punch and have good wrestling/BJJ. All are more experienced and are smarter in the ring (more experience).
 

RPD

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Woosta you'd think by now you would have learned a little bit from you "I won't post for year, but fuck it my word means nothing so I'll post anyways" debacle.

I thought Brock was going to take Overreem down. I like both fighters. AO looked sharp and I can't wait for him to fight JDS.
 

waggy

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Woosta you'd think by now you would have learned a little bit from you "I won't post for year, but fuck it my word means nothing so I'll post anyways" debacle.

I thought Brock was going to take Overreem down. I like both fighters. AO looked sharp and I can't wait for him to fight JDS.

same. JDs is a different type of fighter though. FAR FAR above brock its not even funny. the guy has power, speed, GREAT BJJ and wrestling.

the top 5 in the heavyweight devision are tough though. any of them can beat the other.
 

Apex

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Brock hasn't looked the same since surgery. Even when he won the Carwin fight it was a fluke.

I really don't see anyone in the UFC beating Overeem right now. You can't take him down and I don't care how good your striking is it's not HW Champion K1 level striking. K1 striking is so far ahead of what the UFC has to offer it's not even funny except for a few guys like Silva, GSP.

While I would say that overall Overeem's striking is more technically proficient and his power everywhere (hands, legs) is probably as a whole greater than anyone else, the fact remains that any of the top guys in the heavyweight division have enough power to effectively end the fight with one well placed glove. That means on any given night, it could be anyones fight.

IMHO, JDS has awesome hands, has better speed, and more importantly timing & distance control. This makes him a dangerous opponent for Overeem. He also has better head movement than Overeem. Overeem covers very well, but in general that works better with big-glove sports like K1 than the UFC.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to that fight.
 

gevorg

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good riddance, always nice to see how underrated fighter slaughters over-hyped fighter

now...

Overeem vs JDS
 

the DRIZZLE

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lol at these couch potato 200 lb fatsos saying 30-40 lbs of muscle can't be gained naturally when they haven't picked up a dumbbell in their life.

Please don't talk shit about gaining muscle if you haven't properly researched it or attempted it yourself. I gained nearly 30 lbs of muscle in 2011 and I have 30 more to go in 2012, and I'm **not** a professional full-time athlete NOR do I have Alistair Overeem's superior genetics.

I've spent more time the gym in my life than you buddy. I remember you posted pics in the H&F forums last year and you were extremely skinny so I believe you could put on weight quickly. You also probably never worked out before so you benefited from all the easy beginner gains which Overeem can't claim. Bump this post in a year and tell me how easy it was to gain the next 30lbs unless you are gonna be one of those guys who just gets fat and claims they are bulking.

It's also pretty crazy that his supper genetics kicked in right after the Buentello fight in 2007.
 

the DRIZZLE

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And this is when all the Brock fanboys delete their posts and say they were with Overeem all along.

Jump on the bandwagon guys.

Why do you have to come in here and act like a 12 year old on sherdog? It was civil until you started posting all this crap.
 

JackBurton

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lol at these couch potato 200 lb fatsos saying 30-40 lbs of muscle can't be gained naturally when they haven't picked up a dumbbell in their life.

Please don't talk shit about gaining muscle if you haven't properly researched it or attempted it yourself. I gained nearly 30 lbs of muscle in 2011 and I have 30 more to go in 2012, and I'm **not** a professional full-time athlete NOR do I have Alistair Overeem's superior genetics.


I don't think anyone is saying you CAN'T gain 30-40lbs of muscle. The problem with Overeem is that he gained it extremely quickly. And there comes a point where your body plateaus and gaining even 1lb of muscle becomes very hard to do. I went from 150lbs to ~210lbs (400lb bench and ~500lb squats), however it took me a long time to do it (I'm guessing about 6-8 years). Never took steroids but I can pretty easily tell when someone is using (been around plenty of guys at the gym that do it). And let me tell you, Overeem is using. If he passed a drug test, it's because he's using a steroid that the test didn't pick up. But make no mistake, he's using. I don't need a drug test to tell me that.

That being said, he's still one of my favorite fighters. And quite honestly, most of the MMA world is using. It's just not as in your face as Overeem.
 

umbrella39

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Why do you have to come in here and act like a 12 year old on sherdog? It was civil until you started posting all this crap.

This. I was enjoying the reading the opinions on the fight until anger showed up and submitted the thread with a rear naked...
 

snoopdoug1

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And this is when all the Brock fanboys delete their posts and say they were with Overeem all along.

Jump on the bandwagon guys.

I bet $500 that Shogun will ruin Jon Jones. He's nothing. Pride FC fighters are better. UFC sucks...

We've heard it before Woosta, now stop posting.
 

Woosta

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Actually all the PRIDE guys are still doing well compared to their UFC counterparts...

Rampage, Hendo, Shogun, Fedor, Anderson Silva compared to Liddell, Tito, etc.
 

waggy

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Actually all the PRIDE guys are still doing well compared to their UFC counterparts...

Rampage, Hendo, Shogun, Fedor, Anderson Silva compared to Liddell, Tito, etc.

lol pick UFC fighters that are done yeah sure they are better lol
 
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