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Childs

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holy! diaz wins via choke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

wtf conner bringing the fight on the ground!?!??!

He was getting lit up and on his way out, so might as well take a chance. Diaz made it look pretty easy on the ground though, but again, he was basically done anyways from strikes and probably fatigue.

Connor's power doesn't seem to work as well with 155ers. And I consider this essentially a 155 fight. Diaz isn't even known for KO ability. Heck, Diaz hit Johnson like a million times and didn't hurt him at all. Connor should probably stay at 145. The 155ers are going to be too big for him, although him fighting any of the top 5 155ers would still be fun. I'd like to see him fight Ferguson, mainly for the pre fight trash talk. Diaz should challenge Lawler. That would be another big money fight while Rory and Wonderboy shake out number 1 contender spot.
 

norseamd

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Thought this fight was well worth watching. Both guys did put up a good fight and went all out. Obviously Diaz still had much more in reserve left both on the feet and on the mat, and Conor basically took too many hits.
 

QueBert

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Nate said a few days ago "you knocked out 3 midgets and got all pumped up. I fight grown men all the time" LOL He fucking took it to Connor, while Nate's good as shit, imho he's like somewhere high top 10'ish. Connor would get MAULED if he's dumb enough to right again @ 170. IMHO if he drops to 155 RDA will KO his ass. Will be interesting to see what he does. He use to look like Skelator on weight in nights @ 145. Now with all this new found muscle he's put on in the past few months I don't see how he could make even 145 again.

Ronda loses
Sage loses
now Connor loses?

Dana's absolutely shitting himself.

If Meisha beats Ronda, which I think she could do. He might actually commit suicide. I will shit my pants if he still gives Connor an immediate shot at the 155 belt. Which I have a feeling he might do. Connor looked like shit, he got out struck and got demolished on the ground. It's sad he was so lost trying to stand with Diaz he took down a fucking BJJ wizard. That hype train crashed badly lol.
 

norseamd

Lifer
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Nate said a few days ago "you knocked out 3 midgets and got all pumped up. I fight grown men all the time" LOL He fucking took it to Connor, while Nate's good as shit, imho he's like somewhere high top 10'ish. Connor would get MAULED if he's dumb enough to right again @ 170. IMHO if he drops to 155 RDA will KO his ass. Will be interesting to see what he does. He use to look like Skelator on weight in nights @ 145. Now with all this new found muscle he's put on in the past few months I don't see how he could make even 145 again.

Ronda loses
Sage loses
now Connor loses?

Dana's absolutely shitting himself.

If Meisha beats Ronda, which I think she could do. He might actually commit suicide. I will shit my pants if he still gives Connor an immediate shot at the 155 belt. Which I have a feeling he might do. Connor looked like shit, he got out struck and got demolished on the ground. It's sad he was so lost trying to stand with Diaz he took down a fucking BJJ wizard. That hype train crashed badly lol.

Conor didnt do that bad, he was often outstriking Nate, but Nate was just that much tougher than Conor was.
 

UncleWai

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Oct 23, 2001
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Them left jabs only work against midgets.
Those stockton slaps sent Mcgregor back to his midget realm.
 

QueBert

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Conor didnt do that bad, he was often outstriking Nate, but Nate was just that much tougher than Conor was.

UFC's golden boy did decent in round 1, as Nate started out very slow. Diaz got warmed up and Connor TOOK DOWN a BJJ wizard because he couldn't stand with him. Connor has almost zero ground game. Taking Diaz down lol? He literally gave up and said fuck it. He showed zero heart at that point. Nate slapped him like 4 or 5 times to add insult to injury.

Also Diaz had 10 days to prep for the fight and had no camp. So all things considered, Connor did absolutely terrible imho. Nate was making excuses in the post fight show interview, he fucking smashed dude to the point Connor took him down as a quick way out. Just imagine what Nate would have done to him with a full training camp. When a fighter finishes the fight and still makes excuses, it doesn't say much about the other fighter imho.

Rockhold did the same thing against Weidman, and to this day Chris is extremely butt hurt lol. Connor's dream of holding multiple belts was ended by a fight Dana made thinking 100% his uber hype boy would easily win. He clearly will only do well against manletts, and a few of those imho could take him.

Wasn't he talking about going up to 185? LOLOLOLOLOL a few days ago he was acting like he could go to 185 and beat up Robbie. He's a classless asshole, even compared to Diaz. I remember when he fought Siver, at the post fight conference Siver was very humble and respectful yet Connor was still talking all sorts of shit about him.
 
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futurefields

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Now with all this new found muscle he's put on in the past few months I don't see how he could make even 145 again.

How much muscle do you think he added?

Not much.

He just didn't have to cut any weight at all.

He was eating huge meals and still only weighed in at 168 with no cut.

You cant even add that much actual muscle mass in a few months without PED's.
 

11thHour

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McGregor's train will get back on track when he fights Edgar...until the end of the fight and he loses, of course. Edgar will take him down and make quick work of him, too. Unlike Mendes, he won't gas out.
 

waggy

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holms also made $500k but Miesha only got $46k for showing up and double that for winning???
wow @ the huge diff between champ and challenger in the womans division!

It's not just like that in the womens division. The champion gets paid min 500k i believe. The other fighters it's based on amount of fights.

the whole fighter pay situation is fucked up.
 

waggy

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Now with all this new found muscle he's put on in the past few months I don't see how he could make even 145 again.

new found muscle? what are you talking about? the fought at the weight they walk around at. He didn't add any new muscle.

though i do question on if he goes back to 145. With the new rules banning IV's its harder to recover from such a cut.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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McGregor's train will get back on track when he fights Edgar...until the end of the fight and he loses, of course. Edgar will take him down and make quick work of him, too. Unlike Mendes, he won't gas out.

Funny you mention Edgar, he picked Nate and Miesha to win.
 
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kage69

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That Mendes fight might have given Connor the impression he could handle some more time on the ground. I suspect he only took this fight seriously when it actually began.

No idea why he decided to leave his comfort zone and tackle a grappler, that's baffling.

Good for Diaz. I personally can't stand to hear the guy open his mouth, but it's nice to see he got a real payday. He deserves it.
 

smackababy

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That Mendes fight might have given Connor the impression he could handle some more time on the ground. I suspect he only took this fight seriously when it actually began.

No idea why he decided to leave his comfort zone and tackle a grappler, that's baffling.

Good for Diaz. I personally can't stand to hear the guy open his mouth, but it's nice to see he got a real payday. He deserves it.

McGregor had to shoot for a takedown. He was hurt bad and was hoping to just secure some top position to gather himself. Unfortunately for him, Diaz is spectacular from his back and could easily turn it around and get the upper hand. McGregor again gave up his back because he had to avoid getting KO'd. Diaz was quick enough to grab the choke.

For what it's worth, I don't think McGregor fought badly. He would have destroyed any 145lb guy with that first round. Unfortunately, he was fighting not only a 170lb guy, but a tough as shit one that has been hurt and fought through it before. Even if Diaz was actually hurt from those shots in the first round, he has been in bad situations before and knows how to handle it. McGregor, on the other hand, doesn't. He even admitted in the post fight interview, he gassed out and then panicked.
 

Carson Dyle

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McGregor is a peacock. Diaz looks a busboy at the local steakhouse. Love to see guys like that win fights. It's not about how you look without a shirt.

6'0" with a 76" reach? Length like that coupled with some fighting skills will win a lot of fights.
 

Woosta

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McGregor is a peacock. Diaz looks a busboy at the local steakhouse. Love to see guys like that win fights. It's not about how you look without a shirt.

6'0" with a 76" reach? Length like that coupled with some fighting skills will win a lot of fights.

McGregor is 5'9 with a 74" reach. That's more abnormal than Nate's pretty average reach. Mcgregor has a distinct dildo size advantage over all the other midgets.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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new found muscle? what are you talking about? the fought at the weight they walk around at. He didn't add any new muscle.

though i do question on if he goes back to 145. With the new rules banning IV's its harder to recover from such a cut.


conor put on about 6lbs of new muscle for the 155lb fight beyond his normal walking weight. He will need to shed that to fight again at 145.
 

Carson Dyle

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McGregor is 5'9 with a 74" reach. That's more abnormal than Nate's pretty average reach. Mcgregor has a distinct dildo size advantage over all the other midgets.

Normal reach is about the same as your height. Yeah, McGregor's is much more abnormal, but he's still at a disadvantage.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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conor needs more training carrying that kind of weight around. He has a good chin but its not that good. Johnson took way more diaz punches then conor did. Conor did the shoot for level change because he knew he would rather tap then get knocked out cold on the highlight footage.
 
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