UFC 200: Jon Jones vs DC, Brock?! vs TBD (Sat, July 9th)

Dr. Detroit

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They will feed Brock a can- no one wants to see this fight other than WWE PPV buyers which is what Dana is counting on since they no longer have Team 209 on the card.

Looking forward to UFC 202.
 

JEDI

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They will feed Brock a can- no one wants to see this fight other than WWE PPV buyers which is what Dana is counting on since they no longer have Team 209 on the card.

Looking forward to UFC 202.

no one wants to see jones vs dc?!
r u kidding me!?

this card was already huge b4 the surprise announcement yesterday.
and whats team 209?

but yeah, I see Dana feeding Brock a scrub.
 

QueBert

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They will feed Brock a can- no one wants to see this fight other than WWE PPV buyers which is what Dana is counting on since they no longer have Team 209 on the card.

Looking forward to UFC 202.

No way they feed him a can. 1. He'll be making too much money for it not to be a fight with a big name. And 2. Brock would never do that, his 2nd fight pro he asked for a former champ. He wouldn't accept a fight with a can for his return. Mir's suspended for the PED thing I think? I'd love to see Lesnar Vs Mir III. They still genuinely hate each other.

I wanna see him back, don't give a shit about WWE, but Brock was fun to watch in UFC. And he's responsible for one of my favorite MMA meme





Him getting in MUUUUURS face after he beat him senseless was fucking epic, the expression on Franks mug was priceless.


 
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waggy

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No way they feed him a can. 1. He'll be making too much money for it not to be a fight with a big name. And 2. Brock would never do that, his 2nd fight pro he asked for a former champ. He wouldn't accept a fight with a can for his return. Mir's suspended for the PED thing I think? I'd love to see Lesnar Vs Mir III. They still genuinely hate each other.

I wanna see him back, don't give a shit about WWE, but Brock was fun to watch in UFC. And he's responsible for one of my favorite MMA meme





Him getting in MUUUUURS face after he beat him senseless was fucking epic, the expression on Franks mug was priceless.


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Oh Mir/Brock 3 would be great.

I don't see Brock asking for a can either. he has not history of that. He wanted the best and got htem. well except for his first fight.

fuck 200 is stacked. start to finish it's a hell of a card
 

Demoralized

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He'll get wrecked. Once he gets hit, it's over. Dana will probably feed him to the wolves just cause it's a one off appearance. Make a ton of money off him and have him KO'ed in the process.
 

waggy

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He'll get wrecked. Once he gets hit, it's over. Dana will probably feed him to the wolves just cause it's a one off appearance. Make a ton of money off him and have him KO'ed in the process.

I wouldn't say that either. He took some big shots from carwin and came back to win.

It's kinda silly to say too. The guy has an amazing amateur wrestling record and faces some of teh toughest men in mma.


He is still very strong, fast and agile. not saying he is going to win. but only a fool counts him out.
 

smackababy

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Lesner was fed to the wolves his first time and only stopped because of a real injury. If you think, with some proper build up, he wouldn't be a fucking force, you're a moron.
 

Demoralized

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I think time proved his dislike for being punched outweighed his ability and desire. Yes his injuries had a lot to do with how his career played out but he also proved getting hit wasn't what he wanted. If he ran you down and held you there be was good. If you stood tall and hit him, he had nothing. He was saved in the Carwin fight by a) the ref not stopping the fight although he took a ton of punches and b) Carwin gassing out in the second. He may have been a small force but nothing special.
 

Miramonti

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Lesnar has been outclassed and overwhelmed a few times but thats crazy to say he folded because he enjoys getting hit in the face by heavyweights less than most other heavyweights. The guy is still tough as nails imo, even if his standup isn't elite for the hw division.
 
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RagingBITCH

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Lesnar has been outclassed and overwhelmed a few times but thats crazy to say he folded because he enjoys getting hit in the face by heavyweights less than most other heavyweights. The guy is still tough as nails imo, even if his standup isn't elite for the hw division.

He doesn't fit the mold of the well rounded fighter though...he is very much one sided. Given his ability to take down people at will, he didn't need much of a stand-up game. Nowadays people are much more well rounded. Given this is a one time deal, I wouldn't really expect him to stand up and bang. Shoot in, smother them with a full 280lbs+ and beat the hell out of someone. He was one of the few HW to actually have to cut weight to make the 265 cut-off.
 

WaTaGuMp

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Lesnar isn't an MMA fighter and him ever being in the UFC and becoming a champ is just a joke on the sport and just shows how shitty the HW division is.
 

RPD

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He's fighting Mark Hunt. Hunt should be the heavy favor for obvious reasons. Brock doesn't like to get punched, I've said it before but his entire camp should be him duct taped to a chair and let people punch him in the face until he's used to it.
 

JEDI

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He's fighting Mark Hunt. Hunt should be the heavy favor for obvious reasons. Brock doesn't like to get punched, I've said it before but his entire camp should be him duct taped to a chair and let people punch him in the face until he's used to it.


yup
 

smackababy

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Lesnar isn't an MMA fighter and him ever being in the UFC and becoming a champ is just a joke on the sport and just shows how shitty the HW division is.



You say this based on him solely being in the WWE. If the exact same Brock Lesnar came in off the streets, you'd likely be singing a different tune. He needs work on his stand up, yes. Other than that, he is a freak athlete and has good enough ground game.

I do agree HW is a bit of a joke, but that isn't Lesnar's fault. He came in and got thrown against people he had no business fighting that early and he won.
 

QueBert

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Lesnar isn't an MMA fighter and him ever being in the UFC and becoming a champ is just a joke on the sport and just shows how shitty the HW division is.

Brock was a top 10 all time NCAA div 1 wrestler. He had the perfect base for MMA. His problem was he always wanted to test himself right off the bat, and due to his fame was able to jump straight into the UFC with only 1 fight and fight a former champ who was a contender at the time. I watched him make it out of the 1st round with Carwin, who at the time was unbeaten and had finished everyone in the 1st. While people talked shit about how he turtled up when Shane was hitting him. He still won the fight. With more training and won't asking to face Frank, Heath & Randy for his 2,3 and 4th fight. He would have probably progressed much better. His life threatening illness didn't help either. And while he didn't react well to getting punched hard in the face. He still had the balls to sign contracts to fight the likes of Carwin, Cain & Alistair. And win or lose he always came to fight.

His performance against Muuuur at UFC 100 was one of my all time favorites, his punching power from side mount was so sick. He's nowhere near one of my favorite fighters, but I respect him for never wanting a gimmie fight and always bringing it. And if the posters right about Hunt being his opponent. I like Mark, but I'd love for Lesnar to finish him just to watch the Sherdog forums implode.
 
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NutBucket

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UFC.com reports Hunt is his opponent. I'd say it's legit barring injury....looking at you DC!
 

waggy

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Brock was a top 10 all time NCAA div 1 wrestler. He had the perfect base for MMA. His problem was he always wanted to test himself right off the bat, and due to his fame was able to jump straight into the UFC with only 1 fight and fight a former champ who was a contender at the time. I watched him make it out of the 1st round with Carwin, who at the time was unbeaten and had finished everyone in the 1st. While people talked shit about how he turtled up when Shane was hitting him. He still won the fight. With more training and won't asking to face Frank, Heath & Randy for his 2,3 and 4th fight. He would have probably progressed much better. His life threatening illness didn't help either. And while he didn't react well to getting punched hard in the face. He still had the balls to sign contracts to fight the likes of Carwin, Cain & Alistair. And win or lose he always came to fight.

His performance against Muuuur at UFC 100 was one of my all time favorites, his punching power from side mount was so sick. He's nowhere near one of my favorite fighters, but I respect him for never wanting a gimmie fight and always bringing it. And if the posters right about Hunt being his opponent. I like Mark, but I'd love for Lesnar to finish him just to watch the Sherdog forums implode.

exactly. People hate it for the WWE and ignore the fact he went 106-5 or something like that in college. That is a fucking amazing feat. That he also faught people that everyone say were the best around.

It should be a good fight between him and hunt. both have a lot of power. BUT on the feet HUNT has the huge edge.

I don't think Brock has a chance in hell though. but i really want him to win so we see MIR/Brock 3.
 

shabby

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Why do they have a card so stacked like this every 100 events? They should do a stacked card every year around new years eve like some other organization did...
 

QueBert

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exactly. People hate it for the WWE and ignore the fact he went 106-5 or something like that in college. That is a fucking amazing feat. That he also faught people that everyone say were the best around.

It should be a good fight between him and hunt. both have a lot of power. BUT on the feet HUNT has the huge edge.

I don't think Brock has a chance in hell though. but i really want him to win so we see MIR/Brock 3.

Lesnar's a freak athlete, he tried out for the Vikings, and with only a year of high school foot ball behind him would have made the team if he had agreed to go to Europe to play for a few years so he could learn the plays. Haters will still claim he sucks and doesn't like to get hit, yet he agreed to come back to fight Mark fucking Hunt, one of the hardest hitters in MMA.
 

WaTaGuMp

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You say this based on him solely being in the WWE. If the exact same Brock Lesnar came in off the streets, you'd likely be singing a different tune. He needs work on his stand up, yes. Other than that, he is a freak athlete and has good enough ground game.

I do agree HW is a bit of a joke, but that isn't Lesnar's fault. He came in and got thrown against people he had no business fighting that early and he won.

It has nothing to do with him being in the fake wrestling stuff. MMA, simple enough, not wrestling and Brock, this isn't UFC 1, the sport has evolved more than what he has in his arsenal. I am well aware he is an outstanding wrestler.
 

waggy

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It has nothing to do with him being in the fake wrestling stuff. MMA, simple enough, not wrestling and Brock, this isn't UFC 1, the sport has evolved more than what he has in his arsenal. I am well aware he is an outstanding wrestler.

that's..retarded.

Saying that diminishes the fact he beat Mir, Coulture, hearing and Carwin. All of highly regarded in MMA as being greats (well Hearing was more pride).

His 2 loses are to Cain and overeem (still during his debatable steriod period).


For a man who only had a few PRO fights.

for you to put him down for the reasons you do make me think you either know nothing about fighting, mma or you just hate it because of a stupid reason and only thing we can think of is the WWE.
 

WaTaGuMp

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that's..retarded.

Saying that diminishes the fact he beat Mir, Coulture, hearing and Carwin. All of highly regarded in MMA as being greats (well Hearing was more pride).

His 2 loses are to Cain and overeem (still during his debatable steriod period).


For a man who only had a few PRO fights.

for you to put him down for the reasons you do make me think you either know nothing about fighting, mma or you just hate it because of a stupid reason and only thing we can think of is the WWE.

Yeah, I don't know fighting, that must be it.
 
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