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QueBert

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Yeah I think he was running away from Shain Carwin and Cain Valasques right? I hope Brock stays out of MMA, his shit talking was a fucking joke.
He took some good shots from carwin and got back up smiling and finished the round the aggressor. He ended up finishing carwin, he did sort of run from Cain, but cains a fucking monster. And Lesnar had the balls to fight them and he always wanted to fight the best competition. He didn't back down from a fight
 
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Lesnar hate = uninformed. Just because he got big doing WWE means nothing. He went straight in the deep water. No warm up fights, no re-tooling before the big show, no top-level camp between fights, major health issues... Lesnar was a warrior. He rag-dolled Mir, took a hell of a beating from Carwin only to prove his gas tank was huge, faced the whos-who in his division.

Diverticulitis almost killed my mother. She's in pain all the time, has had quite a bit of her colon removed, among other health issues because of it. The woman can barely move around at times. Lesnar came back to fight some of the scariest guys in the world. That's a true fighter and all the hate is unwarranted.
 

QueBert

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Lesnar hate = uninformed. Just because he got big doing WWE means nothing. He went straight in the deep water. No warm up fights, no re-tooling before the big show, no top-level camp between fights, major health issues... Lesnar was a warrior. He rag-dolled Mir, took a hell of a beating from Carwin only to prove his gas tank was huge, faced the whos-who in his division.

Diverticulitis almost killed my mother. She's in pain all the time, has had quite a bit of her colon removed, among other health issues because of it. The woman can barely move around at times. Lesnar came back to fight some of the scariest guys in the world. That's a true fighter and all the hate is unwarranted.

The only credit I can sort of give the haters is, he didn't react that well to getting punched hard. But when they say he was scared of getting hit? I can only laugh. A dude who's scared to get punched wouldn't ask for fights with Carwin, Cain & Overeem. Lesnar wasn't told he has no choice and was going to fight dudes like these, he demanded fights against them. His illness definitely was his demise, because he looked like an absolute monster at UFC 100. He basically put Mir out from punches in side mount where it's hard to generate a a lot of real power. After that fight as Mir tried to get up and was stumbling around and Lesnar got in his face and said "talk shit now!" and Mir looked like he just saw a ghost. That's one of my favorite UFC moments lol.

 
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norseamd

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Too bad strawberries have tons of tiny seeds which is horrible for diverticulitis.
 

norseamd

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Considering I have not actually watched the Shane Carwin fight did Brock not take lots of punches from the huge arms of Carwin and not only survive but go on to win by submission?
 

Wingznut

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Considering I have not actually watched the Shane Carwin fight did Brock not take lots of punches from the huge arms of Carwin and not only survive but go on to win by submission?
Yeah... Carwin pretty much dominated the first round, but then gassed and had nothing in the second. Lesnar by arm triangle choke.

 

Kneedragger

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Lesnar hate = uninformed. Just because he got big doing WWE means nothing. He went straight in the deep water. No warm up fights, no re-tooling before the big show, no top-level camp between fights, major health issues... Lesnar was a warrior. He rag-dolled Mir, took a hell of a beating from Carwin only to prove his gas tank was huge, faced the whos-who in his division.

Diverticulitis almost killed my mother. She's in pain all the time, has had quite a bit of her colon removed, among other health issues because of it. The woman can barely move around at times. Lesnar came back to fight some of the scariest guys in the world. That's a true fighter and all the hate is unwarranted.


Some of the hate has nothing to do with his actual fighting. From what I heard a lot didn't like him because of the way he ran his mouth bringing that WWE BS drama talk to an actual legit sport. The minute he opened his foul mouth about Budweiser not paying his bills was crap. Like they didn't want to pay him any money or something.. Dude is rich as fuck !

Look at all the booing Anderson Silva would get at fights because how he would fool around with fighters and mock them in the ring. No one wanted to see that shit. True talent and would get booed.
 

waggy

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Lesnar fought ZERO cans. Every opponent he had were above average to the best.


above average? I think EVERY person he fought was a past champion or soon to be champion. hmm except maybe heath herring and kim

1st fight was min-soo kim. I don't think he ever held a title. could be considered a can. at the time of the fight he was 2-5

2nd fight: Frank mir. 2 time champion when he fought brock. Lost to one of the top BJJ guys in that weight class. at the time of the fight he was 11-3

3rd fight: Heath Herring a guy with a ton of experience. fought for the title against nog and lost. At the time of the fight he was 28-13

4th fight: He fights Randy Couture For the heavyweight title. he wins At the time of the fight Randy was 16-8 and had won multiple titles in different weight classes

5th fight: Frank Mir again. Brock dominates and kicks mir's ass for eating his strawberries. Brock's 1st title defense.

6th fight: Shane Carwin. Shane was a champion himself. Brock defends really well and comes back to submit him. oh and at the time Carwin was 12-0

7th fight: Cain Velasquez. Cain is the baddest man on the planet. he dominates. kicks the living shit out of brock (btw he is still champ..with a minor setback).

8th fight: Alistair "horsemeat" Overeem. Overeem was strikeforce champion and master of the knee. At the time of the fight he was 35-11.


so besides the first fight nobody can be called a can. Also nearly all were champs.

yeah not a easy road to take in MMA.

also thats ignoring his 106-5 NCAA wrestling record.
 

norseamd

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Exactly.

Kim was basically a can but not only was this his first fight but was in neither PRIDE or the UFC.

Heath Herring was never champioon but he had a ton of experience and had fought many top competitors including Nogueria twice, Fedor, Mirko, Tom Erikson, Enson Inoue, Vitor Belfort, Mark Kerr, Gary Goodridge, Cheick Kongo, and Igor Vovchanchyn.
 
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above average? I think EVERY person he fought was a past champion or soon to be champion. hmm except maybe heath herring and kim

1st fight was min-soo kim. I don't think he ever held a title. could be considered a can. at the time of the fight he was 2-5

2nd fight: Frank mir. 2 time champion when he fought brock. Lost to one of the top BJJ guys in that weight class. at the time of the fight he was 11-3

3rd fight: Heath Herring a guy with a ton of experience. fought for the title against nog and lost. At the time of the fight he was 28-13

4th fight: He fights Randy Couture For the heavyweight title. he wins At the time of the fight Randy was 16-8 and had won multiple titles in different weight classes

5th fight: Frank Mir again. Brock dominates and kicks mir's ass for eating his strawberries. Brock's 1st title defense.

6th fight: Shane Carwin. Shane was a champion himself. Brock defends really well and comes back to submit him. oh and at the time Carwin was 12-0

7th fight: Cain Velasquez. Cain is the baddest man on the planet. he dominates. kicks the living shit out of brock (btw he is still champ..with a minor setback).

8th fight: Alistair "horsemeat" Overeem. Overeem was strikeforce champion and master of the knee. At the time of the fight he was 35-11.


so besides the first fight nobody can be called a can. Also nearly all were champs.

yeah not a easy road to take in MMA.

also thats ignoring his 106-5 NCAA wrestling record.

"To the best" and "at the best" are two completely different meanings. I agree with you lol.
 

manimal

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Great fight so far with Lawler ahead on points. Brown has fight in him still though he should be penalized for faking a low blow come on man this isnt fucking fifa.
 
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Big John missed the downed-opponent head kick 10 seconds until the finish. Lawler got lucky on that one.
 

Kneedragger

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Lawler and Brown was a good fight.

I sort felt that was going to happen to Little Nog.

I expected a little more out of Josh Thomson. It sort of looked like he wasn't there to fight..

Bermudez did great against Guida.
 
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