UFC/MMA news thread

[smackababy]

there is no one on the ufc roster that punk could beat. This isnt tri-state mma this is where the best people go. Punk should of fought at lower levels but this was about making money not sport.

Currently, there are 106 fighters on contract that have fought at 170, including Punk. But, I'm sure you know all 105 of them, their records, and their skill set enough to make that call. Maybe a 155er comes up and fights him, there are a ton of those (at least one 0 and 3).

The idea that every fighter in the UFC is at the top, highest level is beyond stupid. There is plenty of garbage jobbers that will never even crack the top 10 of their division. There are plenty of people whose entire purpose is to get paid to give some other guy a step up the ladder.

And of course this was about making money. If you think anything the UFC does is "for the sport" you're an idiot. Literally, 100% of their actions are motivated by the almighty dollar and nothing else.

MMA elitists should be thanking guys like Punk and Lesnar coming to the sport and bringing in the money they do. The more PPV buys that can get generated, the less we have guys making $25,000 a fight and hoping that lasts them the year they are going to wait before they get another fight.

 

[Miramonti]

How good do you think Punk is?...could he win a match in a local tournament with local talent? A larger promotion, maybe state wide? Beat someone in a national promotion? How about someone in an international promotion with much of the world's top talent...ie the UFC?

Punk may or may not even be able to win a match in a local mma tournament. So yeah, likely any UFC fighter at that weight class would kick his arse, even the ones not having success or are injured or not fighting but still under contract, and those even willing to jump a weight class to do it.

However, he could prove he's got some badass in him in a smaller promotion, which of course is not gonna happen, until they find the appropriate inexperienced chain-smoking alcoholic opponents that are already getting AARP solicitations in the mail to fight him.

Summary, I think this is a really bad inverted 'Bruce Lee vs......' debate. lol

 

[JSt0rm]

Currently, there are 106 fighters on contract that have fought at 170, including Punk. But, I'm sure you know all 105 of them, their records, and their skill set enough to make that call. Maybe a 155er comes up and fights him, there are a ton of those (at least one 0 and 3).

The idea that every fighter in the UFC is at the top, highest level is beyond stupid. There is plenty of garbage jobbers that will never even crack the top 10 of their division. There are plenty of people whose entire purpose is to get paid to give some other guy a step up the ladder.

And of course this was about making money. If you think anything the UFC does is "for the sport" you're an idiot. Literally, 100% of their actions are motivated by the almighty dollar and nothing else.

MMA elitists should be thanking guys like Punk and Lesnar coming to the sport and bringing in the money they do. The more PPV buys that can get generated, the less we have guys making $25,000 a fight and hoping that lasts them the year they are going to wait before they get another fight.

You have bad opinions.

 

[NutBucket]

Tell me why he's wrong.

 

[JSt0rm]

Tell me why he's wrong.

Tell you why a amateur fighter wont win against a pro who is in the top promotion of the sport?

 

[JSt0rm]

tell me why a pro basketball player will lose against a amateur...

 

[JEDI]

tell me why a pro basketball player will lose against a amateur...

if the amateur is a 18yr old Michael Jordon?

but you're right if the amateur is a 35yr old Michael jackson

 

[smackababy]

How good do you think Punk is?...could he win a match in a local tournament with local talent? A larger promotion, maybe state wide? Beat someone in a national promotion? How about someone in an international promotion with much of the world's top talent...ie the UFC?

Punk may or may not even be able to win a match in a local mma tournament. So yeah, likely any UFC fighter at that weight class would kick his arse, even the ones not having success or are injured or not fighting but still under contract, and those even willing to jump a weight class to do it.

However, he could prove he's got some badass in him in a smaller promotion, which of course is not gonna happen, until they find the appropriate inexperienced chain-smoking alcoholic opponents that are already getting AARP solicitations in the mail to fight him.

Summary, I think this is a really bad inverted 'Bruce Lee vs......' debate. lol

I don't think Punk is very good. He looked mediocre at best during this open work out when striking and his ground game is non existent. Even then, I think there are fighters who are essentially forced to be weekend warriors and aren't extremely talented that would stand and bang with Punk and he'd have a chance. Punk's biggest advantage over these guys is he can train MMA full time while waiting for his next fight. He doesn't need to work. Plus, the UFC incentive for him to fight is there. In order to pay him the $500k purse, they need to sell 17,000 PPV buys. If you don't think even a returning Punk wouldn't garner that many buys, well, you underestimate the market. WWE fans still love CM Punk. They still chant CM Punk during PPVs.

Tell you why a amateur fighter wont win against a pro who is in the top promotion of the sport?

Again, this idea that the top competition is entrance into the UFC. There are 2 major promotions: UFC and Bellator. If you really believe the bar of entry into the UFC is as high as the NBA, you're smoking some good shit. This is a young sport, with few talent, and requires someone being willing to get punched in the face for a living. And, you have the random factor of the lucky punch. That doesn't happen in other sports.

 

[JSt0rm]

I hope you realize there are MANY MMA promotions in this world we live in. They all have belts and rosters full of people that want to be a ufc fighter.

 

[JSt0rm]

here learn:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMA_organizations

 

[smackababy]

You're right. How could I forget CM Punk could have gone to Poland or Croatia to join one of those. No, there is UFC, Bellator and World Series of Fighting.

 

[JSt0rm]

its not about cm punk. Its about the level of fighter he will find in the ufc. People that pushed through all that stuff and are now in the ufc. Thats his problem.

 

[smackababy]

The amount of talent in the UFC at the top is the best, but the gulf between the top and the bottom is far larger than you think.

 

[JSt0rm]

I never said it wasnt. But a amateur with a 0-0 record shouldnt be in the promortion. He had a coupe smokers in training but that doesnt give one the full effect. He needed a couple amateur fights then moved into a smaller promotion then up the line. Now that he was paid he can no longer fight amateur so thats out. He will either get chewed up in the ufc or go to bellator who may provide some cans for him to crush or he will go to a lower promotion.

 

[JEDI]

I never said it wasnt. But a amateur with a 0-0 record shouldnt be in the promortion. He had a coupe smokers in training but that doesnt give one the full effect. He needed a couple amateur fights then moved into a smaller promotion then up the line. Now that he was paid he can no longer fight amateur so thats out. He will either get chewed up in the ufc or go to bellator who may provide some cans for him to crush or he will go to a lower promotion.

r u talking to yourself?
who/what r u replying to?

 

[JSt0rm]

The amount of talent in the UFC at the top is the best, but the gulf between the top and the bottom is far larger than you think.

replying to that

 

[smackababy]

I never said it wasnt. But a amateur with a 0-0 record shouldnt be in the promortion. He had a coupe smokers in training but that doesnt give one the full effect. He needed a couple amateur fights then moved into a smaller promotion then up the line. Now that he was paid he can no longer fight amateur so thats out. He will either get chewed up in the ufc or go to bellator who may provide some cans for him to crush or he will go to a lower promotion.

There was no chance he was going to do that. The UFC wouldn't have allowed it. He initially wanted to go on the Ultimate Fighter or something similar to ease into MMA, but there was no way the UFC was missing out on a payday. His next fight, which he will have if he's willing (the UFC won't pass up the money), will be against as much of a can as the UFC can get that is signed. They won't do Bellator level can, but they will give him shit guy who will stand and bang and hope Punk wins.

 

[JSt0rm]

we will see.

 

[JEDI]

replying to that

when did u become an idiot?

 

[UncleWai]

I don't get how brazilian cowboy has the right to talk shit when he missed weight by 5lbs.

 

[smackababy]

Yeah it was strange Oliveira was acting like that. Missing weight by so much and it looked like it helped him.

And lol Lineker missing weight again. Most in UFC history!

 

[JSt0rm]

when did u become an idiot?

It was literally the post right above mine and you were confused about who I was responding to? And then call me an idiot? lol. You arent worth the time.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't get how brazilian cowboy has the right to talk shit when he missed weight by 5lbs.

He was talking shit because brooks at the weigh in was talking shit about how he is professional and what not. Not defending him but thats the reason.

 

[Miramonti]

Oh snap...looks like Mickey Gall got that fight he asked for with Sage Northcutt on December 16, on UFC on Fox 22.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Rousey set to fight at UFC 207 against Amanda Nunes.