UFC/MMA news thread

[smackababy]

I think he is talking about the upcoming Jones Cormier fight, and people keep talking about the Lameweather fight.

Yep. When was the last time two people who could via for #1 and #2 pound for pound best MMA fighters in the world were going to fight? Stylistically, it likely won't be incredibly "exciting" for casual fans, but from an MMA perspective, this is the largest MMA fight in history.

This Mayweather fight is a joke. I mean, good on Conor for talking his way into $100 million dollars, but from a boxing perspective, Canelo vs GGG in September is WAY better of a fight. This fight is Cristiano Ronaldo challenging Lebron James to a basketball game. And, like literally every other Mayweather fight in the past 15 years, the build up is going to be way Conor sided to give you morons the illusion he has a chance. News flash: his shit talk means NOTHING to Floyd. The crowds mean NOTHING to Floyd. Every booing and angry moron willing to buy this fight to see Conor maybe knock him out, Floyd LOVES.

 

[Miramonti]

Mac vs. Mayweather will easily cash in more than Canelo/GGG. Therefore...it wins, period. There's nothing to disparage...their event is going to own the entertainment industry.

As for competition...d@mn...Canelo/GGG is going to be a war, but GGG is going to break Canelo down and destroy him. And with all the money these fighters will make for this fight, they won't have to work another day in their lives, until at least the end of the year.

 

[Miramonti]

Jon Jones tested positive for anabolic steroid Turinabol on day of Ufc 214 weigh in.

I think any time someone gets labeled in the Ufc as an 'athletic freak' or 'beast' again, they should automatically suspended for 2 years for doping, no pee test needed. Over and over again these guys ultimately get popped for doping.

 

[Sunburn74]

To me the mayweather macgregor fight is like watching a ping pong master play a tennis champion at ping pong. You know what you're going to see, but you're vaguely interested in seeing it actually happen. Its like watching a child fight a kangaroo. Just a spectacle.

 

[smackababy]

Jon Jones doping again? Nah, tainted dick pills I bet.

 

[Ricochet]

Let Jon Jones fight the other steroid freak, Brock Lesnar. That should garner some PPV.

 

[JSt0rm]

Jon Jones tested positive for anabolic steroid Turinabol on day of Ufc 214 weigh in.

I think any time someone gets labeled in the Ufc as an 'athletic freak' or 'beast' again, they should automatically suspended for 2 years for doping, no pee test needed. Over and over again these guys ultimately get popped for doping.

ffs.

 

[JSt0rm]

To me the mayweather macgregor fight is like watching a ping pong master play a tennis champion at ping pong. You know what you're going to see, but you're vaguely interested in seeing it actually happen. Its like watching a child fight a kangaroo. Just a spectacle.

but if...


And thats why Ill watch

 

[QueBert]

but if...


And thats why Ill watch

If what? When the fight was announced, Vegas bookies were initially offering FIVE TO ONE odd bets on Conor winning a single round. Fuck winning the fight, they were basically saying he wouldn't even win a single round. There's a better chance of me winning the Power Ball tomorrow, having sex with Halle Berry an hour later. And finishing the night by surviving a car crash where I hit an 18 wheeler going 170mph on my way home from after fucking her. Then there is of Conor winning this fight.
/

 

[SearchMaster]

I'm as skeptical as anyone about McGregor winning but come on, it's not COMPLETELY impossible. There's a phrase called "a puncher's chance" for a reason.

And as I've said earlier in this thread, a Mayweather loss + rematch would bring ridiculous amounts of money. Is Mayweather willing to sell his legacy for $300-$350mm? He did name himself "Money".

I'll take your Halle Berry sloppy seconds though.

 

[Ns1]

I'm as skeptical as anyone about McGregor winning but come on, it's not COMPLETELY impossible. There's a phrase called "a puncher's chance" for a reason.

Pretty much - stranger things have happened. He just needs to connect once/get lucky once.

 

[manly]

I'm as skeptical as anyone about McGregor winning but come on, it's not COMPLETELY impossible. There's a phrase called "a puncher's chance" for a reason.

And as I've said earlier in this thread, a Mayweather loss + rematch would bring ridiculous amounts of money. Is Mayweather willing to sell his legacy for $300-$350mm? He did name himself "Money".

I'll take your Halle Berry sloppy seconds though.

Las Vegas bookmakers have stated that the true odds they would offer on this fight would be 50-1 or 100-1, for example. The odds are only as close as they are because virtually all the bets are for the Irish guy. I dislike Mayweather as much as the next person, but the smart money is on him 1-4. I personally don't bet on sports and certainly not on boxing, but considering the context, that's pretty juicy.

In 2010, a 39-year old Shane Mosley rocked Mayweather in round 2 and was literally a combo away from finishing him. Mosley squandered his chance, and got dominated on points. Now that's a long time ago and I'm not suggesting McGregor can box like Mosley, but McGregor does at least have the power to pull off the miracle. Like Ns1 said, crazier things have happened.

 

[Miramonti]

I think the mayweather mcgregor fight is only as captivating as it is, because mcgregor is such a good trash talker and legitimately believes he will win. I've come to believe he really does concede nothing beforehand. However I also think it will go as expected...mayweather picking him apart, countering with lightning quick speed from unexpected angles, disguising what he's going to do and when he does it, and dodging mcgregors blows like Anderson Silva dodged Forrest Griffin's futile attempts.

At the same time, it's taken Mayweather's 20+ years of success and reputation in the ring to get such a remarkable financial return on fighting someone that's never professionally boxed before, yet it's taken Mcgregor only a few years of success to be the prime driver imo that's getting most of the sports world interested in this fight. This fight is all about whether or not McGregor makes this interesting, not Floyd, and props to him capitalizing on his short period of success like has never been seen before.

 

[QueBert]

Las Vegas bookmakers have stated that the true odds they would offer on this fight would be 50-1 or 100-1, for example. The odds are only as close as they are because virtually all the bets are for the Irish guy. I dislike Mayweather as much as the next person, but the smart money is on him 1-4. I personally don't bet on sports and certainly not on boxing, but considering the context, that's pretty juicy.

In 2010, a 39-year old Shane Mosley rocked Mayweather in round 2 and was literally a combo away from finishing him. Mosley squandered his chance, and got dominated on points. Now that's a long time ago and I'm not suggesting McGregor can box like Mosley, but McGregor does at least have the power to pull off the miracle. Like Ns1 said, crazier things have happened.

In the world of sports crazier things haven't happened, Conor beating Floyd would be an unbeatable #1 craziest sport thing ever. There's a better chance we go a week without Donald Trump saying something completely bat shit. Shane Mosely today would KILL Conor, he has true one punch KO power.

 

[manly]

In the world of sports crazier things haven't happened, Conor beating Floyd would be an unbeatable #1 craziest sport thing ever. There's a better chance we go a week without Donald Trump saying something completely bat shit. Shane Mosely today would KILL Conor, he has true one punch KO power.

In the world of sports, it would not be the craziest thing to happen in the last 24 months.

Depending on who you ask, the Patriots Super Bowl LI comeback was about 1% or less to happen at various points in the 2nd half:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...cle-how-patriots-came-back-dead-super-bowl-li

Leicester City won the English Premier League in 2016 at 5000-1 preseason odds.

We get it, you're a Mayweather fanboy who's certain he'll win. Comparing McGregor's odds to winning Powerball is an absolute joke. Unfortunately you aren't joking or merely exaggerating. Winning Powerball is 1 in 292 million. I actually agree with you that Mayweather will win because it's far and away the most likely outcome, but it's not an absolute certainty as you claim it to be.

 

[Miramonti]

Final presser with both live now
(8/23/17 4:46 est)

 

[agent00f]

I think the mayweather mcgregor fight is only as captivating as it is, because mcgregor is such a good trash talker and legitimately believes he will win. I've come to believe he really does concede nothing beforehand. However I also think it will go as expected...mayweather picking him apart, countering with lightning quick speed from unexpected angles, disguising what he's going to do and when he does it, and dodging mcgregors blows like Anderson Silva dodged Forrest Griffin's futile attempts.

At the same time, it's taken Mayweather's 20+ years of success and reputation in the ring to get such a remarkable financial return on fighting someone that's never professionally boxed before, yet it's taken Mcgregor only a few years of success to be the prime driver imo that's getting most of the sports world interested in this fight. This fight is all about whether or not McGregor makes this interesting, not Floyd, and props to him capitalizing on his short period of success like has never been seen before.

McGregor is a better boxer than many boxing fans think, and he has the chin to take one to give one plus a distinct size advantage, against an old guy who's lost his power and some of his reflexes.

He probably won't win, but he only has to not get dominated to declare a kind of moral victory. That's somewhat likely because Mayweather isn't dumb enough to slug it out.

 

[Miramonti]

McGregor is a better boxer than many boxing fans think, and he has the chin to take one to give one plus a distinct size advantage, against an old guy who's lost his power and some of his reflexes.

He probably won't win, but he only has to not get dominated to declare a kind of moral victory. That's somewhat likely because Mayweather isn't dumb enough to slug it out.

McGregor is a very good boxer...against mma opponents who are not good boxers. He has fantastic reaction time, but is going against the quickest reflexes in the game. If McGregor hits Mayweather solid, it could change the fight, but that's what they ALL hoped before fighting Mayweather...

 

[agent00f]

McGregor is a very good boxer...against mma opponents who are not good boxers. He has fantastic reaction time, but is going against the quickest reflexes in the game. If McGregor hits Mayweather solid, it could change the fight, but that's what they ALL hoped before fighting Mayweather...

Watch the sparring with Malignaggi, his movement is rather good. Mayweather is only getting slower.

The underlying expectation of all this is that it's McGregor who can take it easy, losing on points is a victory for him, whereas it's Mayweather/boxing which has something to prove. That changes the dynamics of the fight.

 

[Miramonti]

I'll say Mayweather in 5 or 6. By that time, McGregor will be slowed, not by fatigue, but frustration and confusion, and taking lots of body shots, and Mayweather will start T-ing off on him and end it with a tko.

 

[agent00f]

I'll say Mayweather in 5 or 6. By that time, McGregor will be slowed, not by fatigue, but frustration and confusion, and taking lots of body shots, and Mayweather will start T-ing off on him and end it with a tko.

Mayweather didn't defend his way to 49-0 by taking risks.

 

[manly]

Watch the sparring with Malignaggi, his movement is rather good. Mayweather is only getting slower.

The underlying expectation of all this is that it's McGregor who can take it easy, losing on points is a victory for him, whereas it's Mayweather/boxing which has something to prove. That changes the dynamics of the fight.

I think chances are quite good it'll go the distance. If McGregor loses by a landslide but his face doesn't look battered, he will definitely call Floyd a pussy who ran the entire fight; and demand a rematch that he won't receive.

I'll say Mayweather in 5 or 6. By that time, McGregor will be slowed, not by fatigue, but frustration and confusion, and taking lots of body shots, and Mayweather will start T-ing off on him and end it with a tko.

Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone since 2007 (Ricky Hatton) or 2011 (Victor Ortiz) if you're being generous. We don't think McGregor has the gas tank to go 12 full rounds, but I see no evidence based on Mayweather's defensive boxing history that leads me to believe he'll win by knockout.

 

[agent00f]

I think chances are quite good it'll go the distance. If McGregor loses by a landslide but his face doesn't look battered, he will definitely call Floyd a pussy who ran the entire fight; and demand a rematch that he won't receive.


Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone since 2007 (Ricky Hatton) or 2011 (Victor Ortiz) if you're being generous. We don't think McGregor has the gas tank to go 12 full rounds, but I see no evidence based on Mayweather's defensive boxing history that leads me to believe he'll win by knockout.

Precisely, he doesn't have to win to "win". If McGregor has any chance, it'll be a result of Mayweather opening up to prove a point.

 

[Miramonti]

I think chances are quite good it'll go the distance. If McGregor loses by a landslide but his face doesn't look battered, he will definitely call Floyd a pussy who ran the entire fight; and demand a rematch that he won't receive.


Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone since 2007 (Ricky Hatton) or 2011 (Victor Ortiz) if you're being generous. We don't think McGregor has the gas tank to go 12 full rounds, but I see no evidence based on Mayweather's defensive boxing history that leads me to believe he'll win by knockout.

The main difference will be that Floyd will learn McGregor's timing and start to pick it apart and begin exploiting it in a huge way, while McGregor will be helpless against Mayweather's timing, just as all of his opponents have struggled with it. Mayweather is too quick, skilled, and crafty, not to mention experienced, and will start dominating offensively as the fight goes past the first few rounds.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Lameweather only knocks women out.