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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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So, offended by 100% of Hollywood movies and modern media then?

Exactly, people are so jaded to the violence in movies these days, you need to do something extreme to get peoples attention which it seems these ads did.

Be that as it may, I still think the ads are in poor taste and hurts the message.

I actually did some googling to see if this was a prank but it seems they are for real.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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The idea of the ad makes some sense; the danger seems to outweigh the benefit. But art its often like that. And this shouldn't be censored.

I guess this is where we could point out how many of the same people who would only discuss Koran burning not on the reasons it's wrong, but only in terms of 'it's their right', are doing the opposite here, saying they don't like the ad, but not a word about 'it's their right'.

I am not sure about the Brits rights, but as far as here in America there is no way it should be censored. It is absolutely their right to run their batshit crazy add. You are right, there is no difference between this and Koran burning as far as "rights" are concerned.

I do a lot of skimming so perhaps I missed it but I haven't seen anyone argue otherwise.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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I am not sure about the Brits rights, but as far as here in America there is no way it should be censored. It is absolutely their right to run their batshit crazy add. You are right, there is no difference between this and Koran burning as far as "rights" are concerned.

I do a lot of skimming so perhaps I missed it but I haven't seen anyone argue otherwise.

My point on that was that the posters on the right, for the Koran burning, responded to the issue about why people should not to it, but dodging that and just arguing they 'have the right to do it', which no one had said otherwise - but on THIS issue where they disagree, not a word about 'they have the right', only their objections to it.

I'm not saying the right-wing posters said they don't have a right to do it, but that they only fixated on 'the right to do it' for the issue they agree with more.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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I seriously believe while real it was done by those looking to make this group look bad.

Much like a recent campaign mailer locally, they had the 'candidate' all for ludacrious things and included his Social Security number on the flyer.
 

monovillage

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2008
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Seriously ? It was made by Franny Armstrong. Here's a short quote from wiki

"She has been working full-time on The Age of Stupid (formerly known as Crude) since December 2004. It's a film that warns of the catastrophic effects of climate change using a mix of factual documentary and post-apocalyptic fictional styles."

Richard Curtis - Another short wiki quote "Curtis was a founder of both Comic Relief and Make Poverty History. He organised the Live 8 concerts with Bob Geldof to publicise poverty, particularly in Africa, and pressure G8 leaders to adopt his proposals for ending it."

Both have a record of progressive causes, it wasn't a put up job.
 

WHAMPOM

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2006
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Sometimes it takes a Big F**ken Hammer to get people's attention, but what amazed me was how British humour "WHOOOSHED" over so many heads.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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.. I thought it was funny. It's a joke.. a bit twisted, and pretty graphic, but a joke. I giggled.
 

CrazyHelloDeli

Platinum Member
Jun 24, 2001
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Blowing up adults is one thing. However, blowing up kids is fucking over the line and just shows the fanaticism of some of these eco groups.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Pretending to blow up adults is one thing. However, pretending to blow up kids is fucking over the line and just shows the fanaticism of some of these eco groups.
Fixed that for you. I see you're a delicate flower, we'll do our best not to offend your dainty sensibilities.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Damn, the Brits really bring it with black humour.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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My point on that was that the posters on the right, for the Koran burning, responded to the issue about why people should not to it, but dodging that and just arguing they 'have the right to do it', which no one had said otherwise - but on THIS issue where they disagree, not a word about 'they have the right', only their objections to it.

I'm not saying the right-wing posters said they don't have a right to do it, but that they only fixated on 'the right to do it' for the issue they agree with more.

Point out all the people in this thread who said this should never have been made or aired. Point them all out Craig. Having a problem with something and thinking the thing you have a problem with should be banned are very different things. I'm not offended at all by this video, but the message is beyond fail.
 

bhanson

Golden Member
Jan 16, 2004
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I support the green movement and I think that commercial is dumb.

I think it's trying to portray the seriousness of preserving our planet by equating not participating in its salvation with its inevitable demise. By not working to lower emissions (in this example) they're effectively killing the planet, and blowing them up illustrates the effect their non-participation has. The people who do participate do not blow up because they participated and it has resulted in salvation.

From the extremist perspective the "it's no problem" thing makes perfect sense. It's pretty hard to argue reducing emissions will not have a positive effect on the longevity of the planet and it's pretty black and white. So while most people see it as "if you don't support my viewpoint then x happens to you," they see it as, "your neutral action will have serious consequence."

That connection is not easy to make and the commercial is a complete fail in eliciting the proper response as this thread supports.
 

monovillage

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2008
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"inevitable demise", "killing the planet", "longevity of the planet" !
Whoa dude, you really need to do some studying and research. The planet is not at risk, it's perfectly happy just chugging along doing it's own thing. It's NOT at risk. What in the world would make you think that the end of the world is approaching ? Any facts? Any? I didn't think so.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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"inevitable demise", "killing the planet", "longevity of the planet" !
Whoa dude, you really need to do some studying and research. The planet is not at risk, it's perfectly happy just chugging along doing it's own thing. It's NOT at risk. What in the world would make you think that the end of the world is approaching ? Any facts? Any? I didn't think so.

Of course the planet isnt at risk. It was here long before we showed up and shall be here long after we are gone.

The "green" movement is more concerned about maintaining conditions on the planet that will continue to support OUR life. The don't really mean "save the planet" when they say it, they really mean "save the environment that supports our life".
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Of course the planet isnt at risk. It was here long before we showed up and shall be here long after we are gone.

The "green" movement is more concerned about maintaining conditions on the planet that will continue to support OUR life. The don't really mean "save the planet" when they say it, they really mean "save the environment that supports our life".

This is not 100% true. There are a lot of educated people out there who genuinely care about the human race, and I applaud them. Unfortunately, I think a significant percentage of environmentalists are uneducated and don't give a shit about humans. Look at the people who rallied to ban DDT use in Africa. They're a bunch of white middle or upper class Americans who think birds are more important than humans. Are they racists who don't care about black people, or are they just assholes who don't care about any people? Scientists who care about humans came to the opposite conclusion of whether or not DDT should be used - they think yes it should be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Overall_effectiveness_of_DDT_against_malaria
When it was first introduced in World War II, DDT was very effective in reducing malaria morbidity and mortality.[14] The WHO's anti-malaria campaign, which consisted mostly of spraying DDT, was initially very successful as well. For example, in Sri Lanka, the program reduced cases from about 3 million per year before spraying to just 29 in 1964. Thereafter the program was halted to save money, and malaria rebounded to 600,000 cases in 1968 and the first quarter of 1969. The country resumed DDT vector control, but the mosquitoes had acquired resistance in the interim, presumably because of continued agricultural use. The program switched to malathion, which though more expensive, proved effective.[18]
Today, DDT remains on the WHO's list of insecticides recommended for IRS (until alternatives are available)


I'm not saying environmentalists are all racist idiots. I'm just saying be careful who you side with. Some people really do want humans to survive and have as little impact on the environment as possible (ie more efficient logging methods). Other people simply hate the human race and would rather see millions of humans go blind or die before they see a single panda bear die.
 

bhanson

Golden Member
Jan 16, 2004
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"inevitable demise", "killing the planet", "longevity of the planet" !
Whoa dude, you really need to do some studying and research. The planet is not at risk, it's perfectly happy just chugging along doing it's own thing. It's NOT at risk. What in the world would make you think that the end of the world is approaching ? Any facts? Any? I didn't think so.

My apologizes for using ambiguous words. Darwin and Shawn summed up the intended message:

Of course the planet isnt at risk. It was here long before we showed up and shall be here long after we are gone.

The "green" movement is more concerned about maintaining conditions on the planet that will continue to support OUR life. The don't really mean "save the planet" when they say it, they really mean "save the environment that supports our life".

This is not 100% true. There are a lot of educated people out there who genuinely care about the human race, and I applaud them. Unfortunately, I think a significant percentage of environmentalists are uneducated and don't give a shit about humans. Look at the people who rallied to ban DDT use in Africa. They're a bunch of white middle or upper class Americans who think birds are more important than humans. Are they racists who don't care about black people, or are they just assholes who don't care about any people? Scientists who care about humans came to the opposite conclusion of whether or not DDT should be used - they think yes it should be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Overall_effectiveness_of_DDT_against_malaria



I'm not saying environmentalists are all racist idiots. I'm just saying be careful who you side with. Some people really do want humans to survive and have as little impact on the environment as possible (ie more efficient logging methods). Other people simply hate the human race and would rather see millions of humans go blind or die before they see a single panda bear die.

I don't want to "save the planet" to prevent earth from not existing. That doesn't even make sense. I am interested in sustainable practices using renewable resources that can be sustained infinitely for humanity. It would be pretty stupid for the human race to go extinct if the cause was preventable. Obviously this is probably not going to happen in our lifetime unless a nuclear war is started, but we're either operating at an increasingly sustainable rate or you're effectively giving the finger to your children. If successive generations fail to see the need for sustainable practices then eventually we [humanity] are going to all come tumbling down.

I like to leave things better than I found it, not worse.

[edit] These changes require a huge paradigm shift in the mentality of most people and it's not going to get any easier. The longer unsustainable practices go on the harder it will be to fix until eventually there is no solution.
 
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RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
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That...reminds of district 9 when the Alien weapons just pop people like watermelons. :thumbsup:
 

Joseph F

Diamond Member
Jul 12, 2010
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We need special mental asylums for the crazy green activists!
I believe that we should cut back on our carbon and recycle more but murdering children is where I draw the line...
 
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