Uhh Holy Crap!?

Andrew1990

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Well they are not really all that great compared to the !7 920 when on sale for $200 at microcenter. The only $200 Xeon there is a Dual core chip while a 2.0GHz Quad cost around $230.

The 920 looks better to me unless I am missing something.
 

iCyborg

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I don't see how these prices rock either. The only ones comparable in price to i7 920 are severely downclocked and some with less L3.
 

Andrew1990

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
:roll:

You guys ever think about overclocking? Just a thought.

I am not much of an Intel user, but do Xeons overclock that much better than normal desktop processors? I know the AMD Opterons tend to overclock a tad better than their desktop equivelent at lower voltages, is the same true with the Xeons?
 

aigomorla

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*POPPING PC Surgeons Dreams*

Yes they work, but not very good.

You lose out on a TON of overclocking options in bios.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0162.jpg

You can see im missing 2 options i NEED. One is QPI Multi.
And its Hard to keep stable.

And no its not worth the hassle, so just get a i7 920 D0.

Yes you want the D0.
Trust me on this bro.
 

ilkhan

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Those prices are crap, they dont rock. The cheaper than i7 chips are extremely crippled, the same as i7 chips are twice (or more) as much. I wonder what the deal is with that dual core chip; its not a native dual core.
 

Dadofamunky

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Not something I'd want... the only Nehalem Xeon that really stretches out the lead against everything else costs $1600 list. As noted above, server platforms are not set up for overclockers either; the concept is irrelevant in that sphere. And a dual-core Nehalem Xeon? Man, I sure hope a lot of naive users don't buy that chip expecting miraculous performance.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: ilkhan
Those prices are crap, they dont rock. The cheaper than i7 chips are extremely crippled, the same as i7 chips are twice (or more) as much. I wonder what the deal is with that dual core chip; its not a native dual core.

oh wow good eye..

WTF is this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819117188

Yup.

I was looking at Dell's new Precision T3500 last night...
http://configure.us.dell.com/d...tation-precision-t3500

Add $1400 for what is basically an i7 920.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: ilkhan
Those prices are crap, they dont rock. The cheaper than i7 chips are extremely crippled, the same as i7 chips are twice (or more) as much. I wonder what the deal is with that dual core chip; its not a native dual core.

oh wow good eye..

WTF is this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819117188

Now why can't they put one in a laptop for me?
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: speedfreak
xeons aren't meant for overclocking afaik or are they?

Xeons would be like a 18 wheeler truck.

The Extreme Editions are the enzos.
 

ilkhan

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Now why can't they put one in a laptop for me?
Agreed. Im desperately wanting an arrandale chip (and a working version of the asus XG station).
 

ghost recon88

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Originally posted by: gersson
I want to know the opposite -- will the i7 chips work on dual 1366 boards like These

The prices for the xeons are ridiculous.

Only Gainestown core chips will work in a dual-CPU configuration like that. The mainstream Bloomfield cores can't.
 

ilkhan

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Best case they'll work but be slower. But, while they should work solo, I doubt they'll work in a two way configuration.
 

Denithor

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I don't know why you would think Xeons don't OC well - I used an e3110 (Xeon version of e8400) that overclocked almost exactly the same as my e8400, slightly lower volts & lower temps at 3.6GHz.

Never pushed it so I don't know if it was any better or not but I believe the only difference between the two lines is the etching on the heat shield and the code telling your motherboard bios what chip is installed.

Concerning that Xeon E5502 - linkage.

Highlights: D0, 80W TDP, 4MB L3, dual core

So it will use less power/generate less heat, should overclock well and has half the cores/cache of the Nehalem quads.

Supports virtualization but does not list Hyperthreading under the features.
 

Rubycon

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If Intel and RIAA get together they'd want to serve everyone in the o/c forum a $1 million fine. :laugh:

Seriously, Xeon boards don't allow o/c (the real ones anyways) and not that you want to do this. Skudtrail for Nehalam is coming...
 

ilkhan

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I know a couple of sites mentioned the possibility of a xeon+2xX58 board, which really WOULD have native quad x16 slots. That could be impressive. But these prices just plain suck.
 

taltamir

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275$ for a 2.13ghz neha xeon... vs... 288$ for a 2.66gh i7 920 with more cache... mmm... now those xeons are much MORE expensive, not less expensive...
I will pass on getting a dual core thank you very much, especially one that requires expensive mobo, expensive ddr3 ram, and runs at 1.86ghz ... for 200$

budget overclock is buying cheap parts and overclocking it, not buying the slowest AND most overpriced parts and over clocking them,
 
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