sourceninja
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- Mar 8, 2005
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I love this idea of instant death hand to hand combat moves only the military knows.
How do they practice them?
I suggest you guys get a little dose of reality. There is no death touch, and moves you can not practice with aliveness are not going to be as useful as you think. I'd also venture that 99% of those moves are trivial in nature (eye gouging, etc) and require no training for anyone with half a brain. These movements are going to be most useful to anyone with a dominate position. That will be the guy with more experience in that type of combat. This is further proven by the adaption of MMA training methods by the military in both the army and marines.
As the purpose of the military (as far as I know) is not unarmed hand to hand combat, but rather squad tactics. I doubt they spend much time at all on it compared to a MMA fighter. A typical MMA fighter has trained for years exclusively in unarmed hand to hand fighting and has a strong background in takedowns, grappling, and striking with a even stronger base in one of those areas. Further more, the 'fight' that most military types have is a non issue here. We have to assume that both are engaged with the desire to kill each other. the aggressiveness and ego of a fighter is going to be on par with that of a soldier. At best the military opponent will be overwhelmed quickly and lose any kind of dominate position he may have attained prior to the fight starting. This is not a bad thing at all. If the military fighter was able to leverage his real training, the MMA fighter would get hit with a flash bang, taken out tactically by a strike team of expert military soldiers.
My friends came back from Iraq a short while ago. We spared and I was basically in control the entire time. Afterward, he told me that in the military they have a saying, "the winner of a fist fight is the guy who's buddy shows up with a gun". Training even elite groups to be experts in hand to hand is a waste of the military's time and money. Sure a elite group is going to be better then say a amateur guy like me, or a normal solder/person on the street, he will have had alive training in a high pressure environment and be physically above the norm in both stamina, pain tolerance, and strength. But for every hour he spends learning how to fight for war, a sport fighter is spending exclusively learning how to fight in unarmed hand to hand combat. These are drastically different things.
Next you are going to ask who would win in a street fight where you can only punch/clinch. A MMA fighter, or a pro boxer. I mean MMA fighters learn more 'dirty' boxing then boxers right? Of course they only spend part of their time boxing, but they still learn how to box.
How do they practice them?
I suggest you guys get a little dose of reality. There is no death touch, and moves you can not practice with aliveness are not going to be as useful as you think. I'd also venture that 99% of those moves are trivial in nature (eye gouging, etc) and require no training for anyone with half a brain. These movements are going to be most useful to anyone with a dominate position. That will be the guy with more experience in that type of combat. This is further proven by the adaption of MMA training methods by the military in both the army and marines.
As the purpose of the military (as far as I know) is not unarmed hand to hand combat, but rather squad tactics. I doubt they spend much time at all on it compared to a MMA fighter. A typical MMA fighter has trained for years exclusively in unarmed hand to hand fighting and has a strong background in takedowns, grappling, and striking with a even stronger base in one of those areas. Further more, the 'fight' that most military types have is a non issue here. We have to assume that both are engaged with the desire to kill each other. the aggressiveness and ego of a fighter is going to be on par with that of a soldier. At best the military opponent will be overwhelmed quickly and lose any kind of dominate position he may have attained prior to the fight starting. This is not a bad thing at all. If the military fighter was able to leverage his real training, the MMA fighter would get hit with a flash bang, taken out tactically by a strike team of expert military soldiers.
My friends came back from Iraq a short while ago. We spared and I was basically in control the entire time. Afterward, he told me that in the military they have a saying, "the winner of a fist fight is the guy who's buddy shows up with a gun". Training even elite groups to be experts in hand to hand is a waste of the military's time and money. Sure a elite group is going to be better then say a amateur guy like me, or a normal solder/person on the street, he will have had alive training in a high pressure environment and be physically above the norm in both stamina, pain tolerance, and strength. But for every hour he spends learning how to fight for war, a sport fighter is spending exclusively learning how to fight in unarmed hand to hand combat. These are drastically different things.
Next you are going to ask who would win in a street fight where you can only punch/clinch. A MMA fighter, or a pro boxer. I mean MMA fighters learn more 'dirty' boxing then boxers right? Of course they only spend part of their time boxing, but they still learn how to box.