Ultimate Gaming Monitor? Overlord Tempest X270OC

[kevinsbane]

That BF screenshot can be achieved on a screen that skips frames (I.e., one whose overclock is fake) but the prior image from TestUFO is proof that your OC is a real 120Hz

Test for frameskipping is here:
http://www.testufo.com/#test=frameskipping
And it requires a photograph, not a screenshot.

In any case, it does overclock. There is no shadow of doubt in the community that the Overlord monitors do overclock properly without frameskips. They have been as thoroughly vetted as the catleap "2B" and DVI-only Qnix/x-star lines.

 

[hawtdawg]

i preordered one

 

[Face2Face]

Test for frameskipping is here:
http://www.testufo.com/#test=frameskipping
And it requires a photograph, not a screenshot.

In any case, it does overclock. There is no shadow of doubt in the community that the Overlord monitors do overclock properly without frameskips. They have been as thoroughly vetted as the catleap "2B" and DVI-only Qnix/x-star lines.

Correct. I was able to test my overclock my Qnix PLS monitor by taking a picture of the test at a very low shutter speed with my DSLR. I was able to confirm there was no frame skipping at 120Hz. I did some subjective testing looking at 96Hz and 120Hz and to be honest I couldn't tell a difference at all. I keep mine at 96Hz knowing my pixel clock isn't too high and I don't have to worry about it for daily use. Going from 60Hz to 96Hz is a noticeable improvement, even in general desktop use. There is noticeable motion blur. The funny thing is I only notice it when playing RTS games like AOM HD when panning from one side of the map to the other. In FPS games, I don't see it or notice it at all... don't know why? These monitor are cheap cheap and you can see and feel it. The stand and the BLB is pretty terrible as well. I knew all of this when buying it. I will say coming from a 24" 60Hz TN 1080p ACER monitor was well worth the $350 investment.. I could have purchased it from Ebay for $300, but decided I would go the Amazon route instead. $449+ $50 in shipping seems kinda pricey to me for the Overlord..

 

[BrightCandle]

There is noticeable motion blur. The funny thing is I only notice it when playing RTS games like AOM HD when panning from one side of the map to the other. In FPS games, I don't see it or notice it at all... don't know why?

When I had a Dell 2410 @ 60hz I didn't really notice the motion blur in FPS games either, in the sense that my brain/eyes didn't acknowledge that there was any real issue in the image. But I noticed that my ability to move and shoot was dramatically diminished with the monitor, and initially I thought I needed practice but when I finally played on a 144hz lightboost monitor it was immediately apparent that I couldn't see properly. I could fight fine static against static object but when moving I would loose more than I won. So while you are perceiving it the impact is still going to be there, it will still be reducing your brains ability to pick the target and control your mouse movements for accurate shot placement. The better you are initially the more the impact will be.

 

[Black Octagon]

And when I had a TN screen I didn't think the colors were that bad either...

 

[Mand]

And when I had a TN screen I didn't think the colors were that bad either...

Bad color isn't as inherent to TN as people like to think. Some of it is due to the color shifts with angle, but most of what people complain about regarding bad color is that all cheap TN panels are 6-bit, rather than 8-bit.

 

[Triglet]

Bought mine a year and a half ago as well, and I've been really happy with it - it's simply gorgeous. Of course, I've only had cheap TN's prior so the bar was low.

Mine will do 120, but it whines too much for my liking up there. Run mine at 96 Hz and the whine goes away -- I personally can't tell any difference between 96 and 120, ymmv. I do have a 24AWG DVI cable (good lord that thing is thick/heavy).

The stand mine came with was terrible -- no adjustment/sat very low. I picked up this monitor stand from Monoprice and it's been great. It does look like the newer versions have a different bezel and stand than what mine does. Mine also did not have speakers or anything - was very barebones. It did show up pixel perfect, even though I didn't pay for it -- I'm pretty sure I got somebody's cancelled order back when they still offered that upgrade.

$450 seems like a decent deal -- I paid $570 18 months ago including shipping, and I don't regret it.

 

[Black Octagon]

Bad color isn't as inherent to TN as people like to think. Some of it is due to the color shifts with angle, but most of what people complain about regarding bad color is that all cheap TN panels are 6-bit, rather than 8-bit.

I know and agree. That said, the TN monitor I was on was the Samsung S27A950D, widely regarded (correctly) as one of the better TNs in the colour department. Still was night and day when I went from that to IPS.

 

[Unoid]

I like mine. Minimal input lag with divi only. I bought the oc pub to upgrade mine.

90hz -96 is where I keep it. It can do 115hz but with ugly horizontal blurred bars and coil whine.

1440p IPS at 90hz is def great for gaming. 50% less blur than 60hz.

 

[toughtrasher]

Bought mine a year and a half ago as well, and I've been really happy with it - it's simply gorgeous. Of course, I've only had cheap TN's prior so the bar was low.

Mine will do 120, but it whines too much for my liking up there. Run mine at 96 Hz and the whine goes away -- I personally can't tell any difference between 96 and 120, ymmv. I do have a 24AWG DVI cable (good lord that thing is thick/heavy).

The stand mine came with was terrible -- no adjustment/sat very low. I picked up this monitor stand from Monoprice and it's been great. It does look like the newer versions have a different bezel and stand than what mine does. Mine also did not have speakers or anything - was very barebones. It did show up pixel perfect, even though I didn't pay for it -- I'm pretty sure I got somebody's cancelled order back when they still offered that upgrade.

$450 seems like a decent deal -- I paid $570 18 months ago including shipping, and I don't regret it.

$450 is a pretty good deal, and if I were you I wouldn't regret it either. Paying that extra $120 to get something this quality is well worth it imo.

 

[Aithos]

I personally decided against an Overlord Tempest, they are way too expensive for my tastes and they tend to have a much bigger problem with backlight bleed than some of the other Korean panel monitors.

I ended up buying an XSTAR DP2710 (single input) model on eBay after I was sent the wrong version of a monitor from an Amazon 3rd party seller (I got a matte when I ordered a glossy). I got one with a couple dead pixels in the upper right hand corner (which you can't even see because of how small the pixels are) and I have virtually no backlight bleed. The monitor looks great and easily overclocked to 110hz, I was able to get to 120hz but I started getting artifacts in certain games (Skyrim) so I left it at 110hz for simplicity. I'm not doing anything where having a perfect multiple of 24 is important and 10 frames isn't a big deal.

If you decide to get a QNIX or XSTAR make sure you go through a good seller and make sure you order the right model (multi-input models don't overclock). I spent $300 and got a monitor every bit as good (or better) than the Overlord for nearly twice the price. I'd also recommend getting a monoprice 24g DVI cable as well.

Edit: for clarification, the Overlord uses the same panel as the Catleap 2b from what I understand. He just orders them himself and marries them with a bypass board in a case he buys himself. It's the same thing Yamasaki, XSTAR and QNIX do, he just charges more because he's here in America and has to spend more to get his panels in smaller quantities. It also probably has a bit to do with needing to make extra profit per panel to stay in business, I can't blame him but I see no reason to pay more for a monitor that isn't superior in any way. Same reason I wouldn't pay $800 for a Catleap 2b, they were amazing for $300 which started the whole Korean panel craze but there isn't anything mythical about them.

Overlord/Yamasaki - IPS panel (LG)
XSTAR/QNIX - PLS panel (SAMSUNG)

There are pros/cons for both panel types, I prefer the latter but that's just me.

 

[Black Octagon]

^Overlord also designed their housing to include a VESA mount and Pivot functionality...but I suppose what you're really paying for is the fact that they do QC checks before dispatch to ensure that at least 96Hz can be hit and stably maintained. That, plus local warranty.

Also note that the PLS panels are subject to a dimming effect when OC'd. Not the end of the world but I understand that, to counteract this in-game, you need to use SweetFX injectors. IPS screens like the Overlord don't have this issue

 

[3DVagabond]

^Overlord also designed their housing to include a VESA mount and Pivot functionality...but I suppose what you're really paying for is the fact that they do QC checks before dispatch to ensure that at least 96Hz can be hit and stably maintained. That, plus local warranty.

The extra cost is all of the above. People aren't always happy that they have to pay for the service companies offer, but that's the facts. People will buy cheap cheap and then complain when they don't get full service after the sale. It all costs money though, and more than most people realize.

 

[hawtdawg]

Alright, so mine came in yesterday. What I have to compare it against are the Monoprice Glass Panel Pro and my roommates Dell U2713.

I personally think this monitor is fantastic. It's pretty much exactly like the Monoprice monitor, in that it appears to use the same panel, has virtually no uniformity issues, 0 backlight bleed, and no dead pixels. The only differences are that this Overlord OC's all the way to 120hz where the Monoprice doesn't OC at all. Also, the monoprice has multiple inputs and a menu with greyscale controls. They both look virtually identical after being profiled with my i1 Display Pro.

My roomies u2713 has plenty of menu and calibration features, but the uniformity is noticeably inferior to either of these other monitors and it also has some backlight bleed.

So all-in-all i'd say its a great buy. I'm not sure if I just got lucky, but a 120hz QHD IPS monitor with no uniformity or backlight issues or dead pixels for 450 bucks is a good deal imo.

 

[Subyman]

G sync and I'm in.

 

[jackstar7]

G sync and I'm in.

They're said to be working on it...

We'll see if they can manage 120Hz + G-synch on an IPS panel or if there will be hardware limitations.

 

[MoJoSoDOPE]

i personally never used overlord but wow 144 hz 2560x1440p i wonder how that will run. seems very intriguing

 

[Unoid]

I enjoy mine.

my sweet spot is at 90hz to minimize horizontal blur lines and coil whine.

60 to 90hz is a huge difference.

 

[exar333]

Alright, so mine came in yesterday. What I have to compare it against are the Monoprice Glass Panel Pro and my roommates Dell U2713.

I personally think this monitor is fantastic. It's pretty much exactly like the Monoprice monitor, in that it appears to use the same panel, has virtually no uniformity issues, 0 backlight bleed, and no dead pixels. The only differences are that this Overlord OC's all the way to 120hz where the Monoprice doesn't OC at all. Also, the monoprice has multiple inputs and a menu with greyscale controls. They both look virtually identical after being profiled with my i1 Display Pro.

My roomies u2713 has plenty of menu and calibration features, but the uniformity is noticeably inferior to either of these other monitors and it also has some backlight bleed.

So all-in-all i'd say its a great buy. I'm not sure if I just got lucky, but a 120hz QHD IPS monitor with no uniformity or backlight issues or dead pixels for 450 bucks is a good deal imo.

:thumbsup:

 

[Kilgore23]

I think it'll be a year and a half give or take since I bought my 27OC. Back then there was no guarantee that you'd get a monitor that was able to OC to 120hz, or that you'd have 0 dead pixels. But at the same time it seemed very rare that you weren't able to 120hz and have any dead pixels. I was really worried about both 120hz and any dead pixels, but as soon as I received mine it met all my expectations and more.

If their up for sale and you got 400-500 dollars to spend, then go for it, it's much better than anything else for that quality at that price point

 

[eagle101]

Spoke to Karen on email from overlord Monday, she said they are comming in at end of Dec, she will be emailing everyone who has signed up for one.

This is my 1st monitor with 120hz and AH-Ips, comming off dell u2410 4 years old.
I have been looking at monitors for months ,this is the next Level up as iI see it.
no problem with Glossy for me. This baby seems to have everything I have been looking for!
for you guys that already have2700C, is this Truley a Leap from whats is out now in 27" VA IPS PLS .......

 

[amenx]

Spoke to Karen on email from overlord Monday, she said they are comming in at end of Dec, she will be emailing everyone who has signed up for one.

This is my 1st monitor with 120hz and AH-Ips, comming off dell u2410 4 years old.
I have been looking at monitors for months ,this is the next Level up as iI see it.
no problem with Glossy for me. This baby seems to have everything I have been looking for!
for you guys that already have2700C, is this Truley a Leap from whats is out now in 27" VA IPS PLS .......

Its not AH-IPS, its the regular S-IPS panels made by LG. Good panel nevertheless.

I have a Catleap 2b which is the same as the Overlord 270oc. Same panel, same PCB that allows it to OC up to 120hz. Only difference is the monitor housing (if even that) and the Overlord name tag. Benefits of buying from Overlord is that they supposedly test the monitors to ensure it does a minimum OC of 96-100hz I believe. I went with the Catleap since it was about $120 cheaper. Fully satisfied with it and although cant reach 120hz (110hz doable), been blessed with zero backlight bleed and no dead pixels.

 

[Black Octagon]

Its not AH-IPS, its the regular S-IPS panels made by LG. Good panel nevertheless.



I have a Catleap 2b which is the same as the Overlord 270oc. Same panel, same PCB that allows it to OC up to 120hz. Only difference is the monitor housing (if even that) and the Overlord name tag. Benefits of buying from Overlord is that they supposedly test the monitors to ensure it does a minimum OC of 96-100hz I believe. I went with the Catleap since it was about $120 cheaper. Fully satisfied with it and although cant reach 120hz (110hz doable), been blessed with zero backlight bleed and no dead pixels.

Actually, they are AH-IPS, not S-IPS. Scribby from Overlord told me this in an email months ago. This is made especially confusing by the fact that the official Witech/Yamakasi website (mistakenly) quotes S-IPS. S-IPS panels are basically old tech and no longer available in quantity, as I understand it. AH-IPS is more recent, so you, I and eagle101 should all be happy

 

[amenx]

OK wasnt aware of that. My understanding of the Ah-IPS panels made by LG was that they mostly came with a PDC coating (Plasma deposition) which is a semi-gloss coating that minimizes the glare associated with glossy panels. I have one of those as well (Yamakasi DS-270) and it looks and behaves a bit differently from my Catleap. The PDC coating doesnt have as deep blacks as the Catleap which is why I prefer the Catleap.

 

[eagle101]

yes im more happier its AH-IPS, that is the newer version form the old panel...
"Advanced High Performance In Plan Switching", bye the way Guys I was thinking of dell U2713H AH-Ips 2560x1440....I was talked out of this by otheres due to the 2700C comming...
Im sure I made Good choice with 2700C.......

I hear hitting 90 or 96Hz is shocking from 60Hz