Ultimatum at work: Don't be a hippie

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OutHouse

Lifer
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No offense, but I would have reservations about putting a grown man with a pony tail in front of clients as well. If it was a back office job it would be a different story.


I have short hair its my choice. I work for a large multi-national corporation and lots of men in my company have long hair. If you look back in history men had long hair until very recently. long or short it doesnt matter to me.
 
Jun 27, 2005
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Just shave it off. Go from one extreme to another. It will piss them off but at the same time it takes away their entire objection.

Win, win...
 

the DRIZZLE

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I have short hair its my choice. I work for a large multi-national corporation and lots of men in my company have long hair. If you look back in history men had long hair until very recently. long or short it doesnt matter to me.

That's great that it doesn't matter to you, but it might matter to clients.
 

ch33kym0use

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Jul 17, 2005
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They did something like this where I studied, years ago. They were going to make us wear this dress code that made us look like gay nerds. Fortunately my studies ended before the dress code changes were implemented. I'm not about to study there again.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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Isn't it cute how the little kids who think they understand how the world works get in a tizzy when more experienced people try to explain to them how the world really works.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that in many corporate settings, you very well may interact with people from other countries. The cultural expectations in many other countries is a clean-cut professional look. Don't like it, then you can be the dumb ass who sets out to change the world. There are a lot of you. Virtually none will ever make it to upper management though.

Exactly. We're dealing with this more and more. We have a dress code at work saying "Employees much appear professional and be well groomed." The new kids apparently think that means showing up wearing Toms, not shaving for 4 days, never owning an iron, hair that looks like it was styled by sticking a finger in a light socket, and wearing the dress pants equivalent of skinny jeans.

While they think they look hip and trendy, the conservative customer base sees them as says "Wow...he doesn't care about his appearance, so this place must not care about their work."

This is how the world works. The sooner 21 year old kids trying to avoid being "social robots" (this is the term one of them used explaining his clothes), the easier life will be for them.
 

spikespiegal

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Oct 10, 2005
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I don't find the OP's objections any more logical than service businesses that refuse to hire counter and wait staff with excessive facial piercings.

This isn't 1997 and the job market is a bit more competitive.
 

ss284

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If you look back at what you wrote, that's exactly what you did. Also, given the fact that your opinion is based on BS, it's irrelevant.

BTW, I'm pretty sure a lot of people here like me. At least I actually contribute something to threads other than BS anecdotal stories.

I don't see how his opinion is based on BS if his experiences have led him to think what he does about the average person with long hair. And from the polls, it looks like quite a few people agree with him.

Also, I'm sure more people would like you if you actually addressed people's comments rather than calling them morons. I think you have still failed to respond to the points made in post #83, among others.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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Jun 3, 2011
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Looking professional is part of the job. Or you can "fight the man" and keep the hair and stay at your position and not move.
 

brblx

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Dress code at work is Jeans/T-shirt with sandals allowed. Had to throw on the Business Casual because the EVP was in town, and I threw a tie on the long sleeve dress shirt because why the hell not.

Showed up for my interview in a 3 piece and boss was in shorts/sandals. Client meetings are obviously Business Professional.

One thing that does get me is that they could have put me in program with the understanding that I cut the hair if/when I get my own client.

Regardless, ears have been lowered and I'm probably going to try and get back in tomorrow because I let my hair lady have some free reign and she left it a little too long on top and it looks foppish. Was nice at the gym today to not have hair between me and the bar for squats.

pussy.

'you have to cut your hair to be promoted' + no stated rules against long hair = get fucking paid.

there's enough legitimate litigation out there to bleed the shit out of corporate america, but everyone would rather just open their mouths and let the fecal consumption continue.
 

brblx

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Mar 23, 2009
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Isn't it cute how the little kids who think they understand how the world works get in a tizzy when more experienced people try to explain to them how the world really works.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that in many corporate settings, you very well may interact with people from other countries. The cultural expectations in many other countries is a clean-cut professional look. Don't like it, then you can be the dumb ass who sets out to change the world. There are a lot of you. Virtually none will ever make it to upper management though.

lulz. the type of people who don't want to conform to your shitty version of 1950's america have no interest in 'upper management,' aka the last stop for most incompetent kiss-asses with nothing more than a piece of paper to refute their stupidity.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
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pussy.

'you have to cut your hair to be promoted' + no stated rules against long hair = get fucking paid.

there's enough legitimate litigation out there to bleed the shit out of corporate america, but everyone would rather just open their mouths and let the fecal consumption continue.

perhaps you didn't read the thread tag.
 

CPA

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i would get it buzzed at a black barber shop and have them shave a mural into the back of my head.

funny, i've never been able to chastise a boss for being a fat, ugly, greasy, offensive retard.

i worked at a shop once where they fired a $8/hr oil change kid for having a fauxhawk.

fuck our country.

fuck our country? The great thing about our country is that YOU can open up your own shop, hire YOUR own fauxhawk wearing kid and chastise anyone YOU want. Oh, wait, that's more difficult than just stomping your feet and crying about "the man".
 

Broheim

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Feb 17, 2011
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lulz. the type of people who don't want to conform to your shitty version of 1950's america have no interest in 'upper management,' aka the last stop for most incompetent kiss-asses with nothing more than a piece of paper to refute their stupidity.

so, how's the burger flipping treating ya?
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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I don't see how his opinion is based on BS if his experiences have led him to think what he does about the average person with long hair. And from the polls, it looks like quite a few people agree with him.

Also, I'm sure more people would like you if you actually addressed people's comments rather than calling them morons. I think you have still failed to respond to the points made in post #83, among others.

No, and no.

You seeing someone with long hair wearing crappy clothing proves nothing. Also, the poll indicates that most people agree on the OP cutting his hair, not that long haired people are crappy dressers and unprofessional.

Nice try.
 

Paladin3

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Mar 5, 2004
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Yar, ye be sailing the high seas o' professionalism. Prepare to board the ship o' responsibility... And cut your damn hair. Including your piratical facial hair, which, let's face it, doesn't exactly scream professional. Your client is going to be a bit distrustful of you if they think that you are drunk off your ass on the finest of spiced rums and mere moments away from running them through with a scimitar. Savvy?

The classic pirate sword would actually be a cutlas. Scimitars are more in style with the desert dwelling, camel riding variety of rogues...and dark elf rangers who have ventured above ground. Now you know.

--The preceding message was paid for by your local Dungeon Master Guild no. 554.
 

TheNinja

Lifer
Jan 22, 2003
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If you play for the Oakland A's or Red Sox you can look like a laid back hippy. When you play for the Yankees, you cut your hair and typically avoid and facial hair unless it's neatly groomed. Ask Giambi, Damon, and scores of others.

It's just the way it is to be professional at some places. Gotta play the game to win.
 
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No, and no.

You seeing someone with long hair wearing crappy clothing proves nothing. Also, the poll indicates that most people agree on the OP cutting his hair, not that long haired people are crappy dressers and unprofessional.

Nice try.

No one is trying to prove anything. You are the one drawing strange conclusions interpreting my opinion.

I know it's hard for someone has retarded as you to comprehend, but if you go back and read my posts slowly, you might get it.

I stated my opinion. I never once said it proved anything. You can "cool story bro" and "nice try" all you want, but you're really grasping at straws here.
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Yeah, eff that. I used to have long hair. I cut it for a girl, which is arguably even more stupid. Wouldn't give a fuck what an employer thought.

Though I certainly understand in the case of meeting clients etc, but still.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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No one is trying to prove anything. You are the one drawing strange conclusions interpreting my opinion.

I know it's hard for someone has retarded as you to comprehend, but if you go back and read my posts slowly, you might get it.

I stated my opinion. I never once said it proved anything. You can "cool story bro" and "nice try" all you want, but you're really grasping at straws here.


It's a good idea if you're gonna say someone is retarded to at least have basic grammatical skills.

Also, you said your experience "proves" that there's more long haired guys that are bad dressers, and now you're saying it's just your opinion. No, it doesn't prove anything. It seems you're too retarded to understand that.

Also, you're the one grasping at straws. You're using your anecdotal evidence as "proof" of something. I can make up stories, too.
 
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