Ultra hot and getting hotter! New FREE P2P IM and telephony app from the makers of Kazaa!

VirtualLarry

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(I read about this recently on The Register.)

Skype is a P2P-network-based IM and voice telephony network, from the creators of Kazaa and the FaskTrack network. It could potentially allow circumventing the normal telco network, to allow making phone calls worldwide for free! It has some neat features too, like NAT compatibility, and end-to-end encryption (like WASTE).

What makes this even hotter, is the theoretical possiblity, that combined with the "ENUM" project, to link URLs with telco POTS numbers, that you could even route calls to someone's phone number, if they also had broadband, and eseentially use the internet's IP network as the long-haul voice carrier, and then use a voice-capable modem as the "last mile" bridge onto the telco POTS network. This is mostly tech-geek speculation on my part, but it should be possible. Talk about breaking down boundries! I have no doubt that they might add fax capabilities too, eventually. They mention future pay-for services too.

Right now, it is in beta, and is apparently free to download and use.

The biggest question on my mind is if there is any of the usual Kazaa-style spyware. I don't know, since it claims to be "ad-free" on their page, and while they wrote Kazaa, they do not currently own or market it, some other company does (Sharman Networks).

But eventually, if it becomes popular (and I hope that it will), it could completely eclipse all other IM clients out there. Slowly but surely, these guys are building their own P2P empire. This really is, IMHO, The Next Big Thing, and a natural evolution of FastTrack technologies. Imagine a global single IRC network, where the "servers" are created/assigned dynamically, on the fly. I'm guessing that Skype works somewhat like that.

(2003-09-08 09:09am EST)
Edit: POSSIBLE WARNING - The installer EULA contains this line: "(c) THE SKYPE SOFTWARE IS UTILIZED AND DISTRIBUTED BY THIRD PARTIES WHICH ARE UNRELATED TO SKYPER. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT INSTALLATION OF THE SKYPE SOFTWARE WILL ALLOW THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH SKYPER THE ABILITY TO ACCESS YOUR COMPUTER ("OUTSIDE PARTIES"). YOU AGREE THAT SKYPER WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, CLAIM OR LOSS OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES AS STATED IN PARAGRAPH 9(a) ABOVE, RESULTING FROM ANY ACTIONS OR OMISSIONS OF THE OUTSIDE PARTIES."

I'm not sure entirely what this is supposed to mean. The Skype web page claims that this software contains "no ads or spyware". The clause above seems to refer to when/if the Skype client software is bundled along with 3rd-party software.

Install at YOUR OWN RISK..
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
will riaa still want to rape me?

For talking to your friends over the internet? Probably. After all, the time that you spend talking with friends, you are not listening to, or shopping for, their music. *g*

 

UncleWai

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
will riaa still want to rape me?

For talking to your friends over the internet? Probably. After all, the time that you spend talking with friends, you are not listening to, or shopping for, their music. *g*

In days they may be RIAA, at night they can be butt-pirates, who knows.
 

ShinSa

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I remember when DialPad was free. ..
I guess I'll try this untill they begin to charge.
 

jpeyton

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You guys, there is NO spyware with this proggie (yet).
 

369s

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damn this must be a phony... yea i remember the days when dialpad was free man wasnt that great... i cant believe theres a ffree service this is crazy well i ll see if it really is
 

369s

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guys u cant call real people u can only call skype users this sucks everyone uninstall it
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: 369s
guys u cant call real people u can only call skype users this sucks everyone uninstall it

Well, they don't have gateways into the telco POTS network yet. But it is free, and decentralized. Dialpad got into trouble with several countries local telephone monopoly companies, especially the state-owned ones. One reason why Dialpad was basically US-only.

I just thought that it sounded really cool, and the more people use this, the bigger and better the network will become. Kazaa would be nothing without all of the users running it.

According to the web site, there are no ads or spyware inside. No mention of Altnet nodes, I dunno.

This may be a precursor to some new Kazaa 3.0 release too. They make some mention of third-generation P2P technology, called "GI" (Global Index), that allows queries into the network to reach all nodes, not just out to some hop-limited query event horizon.

As someone that's been interested in the technical side of P2P for quite some time, this development is exciting to hear about. If you are only interested in a better way to steal software or music, then perhaps this thread is disappointing to you. But a decentralized IM infrastructure, will mean that AOL and MS won't be able to cut you off from talking to your friends online.

PS. Are you implying that Skype users are somehow not real people? Are we just all anomolies in the Matrix or something? Maybe.
 

cgtran

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nice is a nice piece of software.
I downloaded and used it. Talked to someone in Korea for over hour long (I don't even know that person).
Anway, this program works great.
5 thumbs up.... to bad we can't call to our real phone line connection, but that would cost money.
 

MrDurden

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License Agreement:

6. Payment.

You acknowledge that certain functions in the Skype Software are only available to paid subscribers after a free trial period of the Skype Software and Services (the "Free Trial Period") ends. Namely, you acknowledge that the ability to make and receive calls to non-paying users of the Skype Software and Services is only available as a paid subscription service (the "Subscription Services"). After the Free Trial Period ends, you will be presented with the option to subscribe to the Subscription Services. If you do not wish to subscribe, you acknowledge that you can only make and receive calls with subscribers of the Subscription Services and not with non-paying users of the Skype Software and Services. To subscribe to the Subscription Services you must agree to the terms and conditions of the Subscription Services.

-Suck ass.
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

But a decentralized IM infrastructure, will mean that AOL and MS won't be able to cut you off rom talking to your friends online.

Perhaps you haven't heard of Jabber?

 

mscdex0

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Originally posted by: straubs
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

But a decentralized IM infrastructure, will mean that AOL and MS won't be able to cut you off rom talking to your friends online.

Perhaps you haven't heard of Jabber?

Or Trillian?

 

rasputinj

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Originally posted by: MrCornellXP
Wait for the hacked up 'Lite' version (ala Kazaa Lite)...

now a kazaa lite version I would download, I use my cell phone for long distance, so it really doesn't matter to me other than to test it out.

 
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