Originally posted by: QueBert
are there any GREAT PSU's for $40 bucks? Of course the answer is no, to mindless1,
Actually yes. IF your system does not need the highest capacity per $ possible, you can get a PSU with higher quality construction for $40. For free? No. Will it run system x, y, or z? That's up to you to determine. There is nothing wrong with buying a high quality 300-350w PSU for a system that needs nothing more, and if you check most OEM systems, this is in fact the route they chose instead of a lower quality but higher capacity. What could OEMs know, having mere millions of systems covered by warranty and looking to keep replacement costs to a minimum? I think they know a heck of a lot about what the best value is per $, even if many people would like a little higher capacity PSU at higher cost (but how many shop for price instead of this parameter?).
I run the PSU in question in this thread and it does exactly what it's supposed to. I paid $50 bucks when it came out, and would honestly do it again. Is it the best $40 dollar PSU on the market? I don't know, as I don't think anybody else. We can debate good/bad all day with our opinions. There are no scientific facts that this is the "POS PSU!" that you're making it out to be.
You are confused. Reread my posts and you will see that I am stating FACTS about it. Whatever conclusion you are drawing is
your subjective interpretation of the facts I present.
That is your opinion, as I know many people besides myself who love our Ultra PSU's.
Please show me the posts where I posted opinion. I told you what I observed, compared to other PSU and in the past, including datasheets for parts. If you "love" it, great. That does not change what I observed! "LOVE" is not applicable to most of our needs though, and better placed on people than PSU.
Do you understand information can be posted as only a source of information, left to the person reading it to consider themselves and weigh against the rest of the information and any other factors important in their subjective use?
For example, suppose a computer monitor is for sale and I post "it has a 17" screen". If most people want a 19" screen, does that change the truth in what I posted? If you want a large screen instead of a 17" screen, does my posting that it's 17" mean that I think it's "crap"? It means I supplied one piece of information that you can use any way you want, nothing more.
If information about this PSU upsets you, that's not my problem - write to Wintech and tell them you don't like the facts about the PSU. Oops, but you "Love" it. Which is it?
You are wasting your time claiming you love a product and then complaining about factual information about it. It is what it is, and a complete understanding of what it is is the best way to make an informed purchasing or application decision.
Likewise, you have posted information that you have two of these running fine. If I were to turn around and act as you have, I would complain about this information. I don't- it is useful to know specific systems, loads that these can handle without problems.
It's all about the information, NOT OPINION.
If you cannot recognize that a short-term test by Jonnyguru is inadequate to judge a PSU fit for long-term use, that is a flaw in your understanding of testing methodology. No short test can qualify a product for long term use. It would be really great if it were possible but it isn't. I didn't write "Jonnygurus testing have invalid data", did I? No, but rather, it is important to see any testing in context and what conclusions the tests can support. A short term test like most reviewers do, cannot support a conclusion of long-term viability. I don't expect Jonnyguru or other reviewers to do long term tests, it would not be realistic. I am not criticizing most of Jonnyguru's work, as it is another source of useful information, but nevertheless it does not support a conclusion about long term viability.
It needs to be recognized that marginally designed PSU can pass these short term tests only to fail later. Surely if you have a good amount of PSU experience then you can recognize this?
Now pause for a second and consider that I did not write "Your PSU will fail in 3 years", or anything like that. I wrote that reviewers' (including Jonnyguru) testing does not support a conclusion about long term viability.
Suppose it does fail later, at least it has the limited lifetime warranty, BUT, only you can decide if a failure, the resultant risk to parts or system downtime plus the RMA shipping cost, was worth a few dollars saved.
I can't make that decision for you, but I can supply some facts that help you to make the decision for yourself. I don't look down on people that make informed choices no matter what the choice was, but to rebel against truth and information itself, is madness.
Buyers deserve to know and make informed choices!
If you have opened one and compared it then you too might have useful information to add.
I've said my peace and am sure some will be glad I'm done posting in the thread, but I sincerely hope this agenda some have of trying to suppress information does not persist, and feel it was unfortunate to have to argue about observations on products I've purchased. Now you know why you may buy a product someday and not find out about a problem, because those who try to help provide information have to even argue with those who didn't even have any hands-on except to plug it in.